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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / May 2007

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Aircon and fuel economy - one for Dervman perhaps?

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Mike P - 22 May 2007 21:35 GMT
Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon on?
Just curious..

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SteveH - 22 May 2007 21:35 GMT
> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon on?
> Just curious..

I've tried aircon on and off at a constant speed, looking at the fuel
economy readout on the dash. It's such a small difference that you can't
measure it.

This may vary for a low-powered shopping trolley, though.
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DervMan - 25 May 2007 21:16 GMT
>> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
>> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon
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> economy readout on the dash. It's such a small difference that you can't
> measure it.

This with your VAG repmobile?  You can't trust the readout, and you need to
do it over a significant mileage first.

> This may vary for a low-powered shopping trolley, though.

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Adrian - 22 May 2007 21:46 GMT
> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on
> a motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and
> aircon on? Just curious..

It'll depend massively on the car.

On the XM, there's no noticable difference on the fuel computer with aircon
on or off. I rarely use the windows (the driver's door window didn't even
work for about three years).

On the Acadiane, there's about 5kph top speed difference with the driver's
window open. It doesn't have aircon.
adder1969 - 23 May 2007 11:09 GMT
> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon on?
> Just curious..
>
> Mike P

Mythbusters tested it some time ago.
R D S - 23 May 2007 13:45 GMT
>> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
>> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon
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>
> Mythbusters tested it some time ago.

And......
adder1969 - 23 May 2007 16:09 GMT
> >> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
> >> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> And......

look it up
Mark W - 25 May 2007 15:22 GMT
> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon on?
> Just curious..
>
> Mike P

No. Nobody has bothered to see. Please perform some tests and report back
with your findings.
DervMan - 25 May 2007 21:19 GMT
> Has anyone ever bothered to see which is more economical - driving on a
> motorway at 75 with windows open or driving with windows up and aircon on?
> Just curious..

Depends on the car of course.  In the Saab the calculated run mpg figures
appear to be 1-2 mpg lower with the air conditioning running, but, I can
vary it by >20 mpg through my driving style.  A crosswind makes 4 - 6 mpg
difference.  1-2 mpg isn't statistically significant...

As for opening the windows, I can't be doing with it myself and it isn't a
like for like test.  Hot, humid, noisy or cool, dry and quiet.  I'll take
the consumption penalty.

Modern stuff is designed for windows closed driving - older stuff wasn't
anywhere near as noisy with the windows down.

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Adrian - 25 May 2007 21:35 GMT
> Modern stuff is designed for windows closed driving - older stuff
> wasn't anywhere near as noisy with the windows down.

Ain't that the truth - I wonder if it's also something to do with flush
glazing?
DervMan - 25 May 2007 21:40 GMT
>> Modern stuff is designed for windows closed driving - older stuff
>> wasn't anywhere near as noisy with the windows down.
>
> Ain't that the truth - I wonder if it's also something to do with flush
> glazing?

Quite possibly.  Or more to do with the fact that in the old days, they
designed something to look aerodynamic.  These days they are aerodynamic!
:-)

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