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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / June 2007

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Stuart B - 27 Jun 2007 00:14 GMT
I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
spokesperson for some organisation)  on who thought them being
introduced to this country would be a good idea .She then went on to
say that there was a problem with what are termed accidents but in her
opinion they werent accidents as other factors caused them and rhymed
off these factors ,drink,drugs etc ( which included being uninsured
..not sure how that causes accidents tho') .

Anyway she cited the example of a young guy driving a car,sports car
she emphasised who had an accident ,hitting someone sitting near a bus
stop.

It was what she said then that made me stop .She said that when the
black box in this car was examined it showed that the driver was
driving carefully when alone but not carefully when he had passengers.

Exactly when did cars start getting black boxes fitted that could tell
not only how the driver was driving but also if he/she had passengers
?
Stuart  .
.
Flying Tortoise - 27 Jun 2007 00:37 GMT
> I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
> ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Stuart  .
>  .

General Motors were installing 'black boxes' in the US as long ago as
1994. If your car was new within the past 5 years then it's almost
certainly got one (posing as the airbag monitor in most cases). The
same system that nags the driver to put the seatbelt on can also
monitor the other seatbelts so determining when there's more than one
person in the car is a doddle.
Stuart B - 27 Jun 2007 00:46 GMT
>> I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
>> ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>monitor the other seatbelts so determining when there's more than one
>person in the car is a doddle.

Not sure that answers my question .

So what are you saying ?...That ALL cars in this country ...not the
good old US of A ....have boxes fitted that can be interrogated and
provide info about what exactly ?
AndyT - 27 Jun 2007 01:07 GMT
>>> I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
>>> ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> good old US of A ....have boxes fitted that can be interrogated and
> provide info about what exactly ?

To find out the road speed, engine speed, whether wipers, lights, horn,
indicators were operating, how many seatbelts were in use, then anything
like tyre pressures if sensors are fitted.  In cars with traction and ABS
fitted that data is also recorded, maybe even the gear in use.  Some cars
even indicate which lights were not working.
Be afraid!  You will find that insurance companies are trying to push to get
the data released and for it to be used when people claim fraudulently.  It
will cut down on a number of fraudulent claims.
It will also pinpoint who was probably responsible for accidents and assist
the Police when a driver lies about speeding - or the boy racer that lies
about driving with front fog lights on in bright daylight.
It's all in place.
Bruce Stewart - 27 Jun 2007 10:35 GMT
>>> I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
>>> ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> good old US of A ....have boxes fitted that can be interrogated and
> provide info about what exactly ?

Perhaps it's not a single "black box", but putting together the info from
the EMS, TC/ABS, seatbelt and airbag systems.

Bruce S.
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AndyT - 27 Jun 2007 01:02 GMT
>I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
> ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Stuart  .
> .

The Police have had them for years!  It was to check the first 30s to 1min
before any accident.  It records speed, revs, wipers, lights, indicators,
siren, blue lights etc.
I think cars should have them, sensible people would get cheaper insurance.
FCS - 27 Jun 2007 01:20 GMT
> >I caught part of a discussion on News 24 tonight about some Australian
> > ad to try and prevent road traffic accidents and they had this woman (
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

Company cars yes. I can see how that would
work no problem. From the assertions about
history with and without passengers what's
the point of having tachographs at all now
though?

I can also see how a parent with an income
to buy Portia this year's Porsche, for her
18th, might wish it.

Presumably the only reason there's not any
breathalysation locks on the ignition is a
case of DNA sampling techniques being crap
at the moment so that anybody could blow a
note on the starter motor.

Anyone know if Renault fit the boxes yet?

With the general performance of their lock
and immobiliser circuits, that'd be enough
to get them thrown out in terms of whether
a court could consider them admissible, on
reliability grounds...

...shame really, as they do drive lovely.

G DAEB

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