I lost the back of the drivers wing mirror on my Ford focus (or
possibly had it nicked!).
I can get the part (£14) but it comes in some neutral colour and will
need to be sprayed (spray costs £16). It's a navy blue colour.
Is this a fairly easy thing to do myself or will I make a bodge of it
and be better off paying a pro the labour cost?
The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the re-
sale value won't be much then anyway!
Dr Zoidberg - 21 May 2008 15:47 GMT
> Is this a fairly easy thing to do myself or will I make a bodge of it
> and be better off paying a pro the labour cost?
Nice and straightforward - just take your time with it

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Chris Bartram - 21 May 2008 16:01 GMT
> I lost the back of the drivers wing mirror on my Ford focus (or
> possibly had it nicked!).
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> The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the re-
> sale value won't be much then anyway!
It's easy enough. You need plastic primer (and perhaps lacquer- is it
metallic?) as well. You just need to take your time, flat everything
down with wet & dry, used wet.
jgkgolf@hotmail.com - 21 May 2008 16:23 GMT
yes it is Metallic.
Do you mean I need to paint it first with plastic primer , then spray
it and finally put a lacquer coat on it?
Chris Bartram - 21 May 2008 21:25 GMT
> yes it is Metallic.
>
> Do you mean I need to paint it first with plastic primer , then spray
> it and finally put a lacquer coat on it?
Yep. Flatting down in between.
Doki - 21 May 2008 22:01 GMT
>> yes it is Metallic.
>>
>> Do you mean I need to paint it first with plastic primer , then spray
>> it and finally put a lacquer coat on it?
> Yep. Flatting down in between.
Nope. Don't flat metallics, they change colour. BTDT the other weekend.
Dave Plowman (News) - 21 May 2008 23:44 GMT
> Nope. Don't flat metallics, they change colour. BTDT the other weekend.
The one time I've used aerosol metallic (from Halfords) that was the
instructions - several coats of base in quick succession and leave a
couple of days to dry. Then flat down. Then apply the lacquer. Got a very
respectable finish. (It didn't have to match anything else)

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Doki - 22 May 2008 07:48 GMT
>> Nope. Don't flat metallics, they change colour. BTDT the other
>> weekend.
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> couple of days to dry. Then flat down. Then apply the lacquer. Got a
> very respectable finish. (It didn't have to match anything else)
My experience where it does need to match something else is that you do need
to leave it well alone and just clear it if you want a match. You tend to
get more metallicyness if you flat it. Everything's changed with water
based, and you'd have to be a complete idiot to need to flat it - if you
bugger it up with a run you can just wipe it off, and it goes on so easily
you shouldn't have any trouble with orange peel.
Chris Bartram - 22 May 2008 08:37 GMT
> you'd have to be a complete idiot to need to flat it
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Dave Plowman (News) - 22 May 2008 09:30 GMT
> My experience where it does need to match something else is that you do
> need to leave it well alone and just clear it if you want a match. You
> tend to get more metallicyness if you flat it. Everything's changed
> with water based, and you'd have to be a complete idiot to need to flat
> it - if you bugger it up with a run you can just wipe it off, and it
> goes on so easily you shouldn't have any trouble with orange peel.
But do any aerosols contain water based paint? That's what most asking
this sort of question will be using.

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Doki - 22 May 2008 10:59 GMT
>> My experience where it does need to match something else is that you
>> do need to leave it well alone and just clear it if you want a
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> But do any aerosols contain water based paint? That's what most asking
> this sort of question will be using.
Yep. I've got two in the shed. Everything is moving to waterbased paint now.
You'll still be able to get aerosols of Synthetic Enamel for a while, but
that's satanic stuff.
Chris Bartram - 22 May 2008 08:36 GMT
>>> yes it is Metallic.
>>>
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>
> Nope. Don't flat metallics, they change colour. BTDT the other weekend.
twas OK on my metallic blue A3- you couldn't tell it was rattlecans
sprayed by a amateur like me outside. Took bloody ages to get right
though.
Dave Plowman (News) - 21 May 2008 16:20 GMT
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<87fe474c-061a-42ea-a1d6-c640f3c7ce1f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> I lost the back of the drivers wing mirror on my Ford focus (or
> possibly had it nicked!).
> I can get the part (£14) but it comes in some neutral colour and will
> need to be sprayed (spray costs £16). It's a navy blue colour.
> Is this a fairly easy thing to do myself or will I make a bodge of it
> and be better off paying a pro the labour cost?
I'd say it will cost you near a tenner for the paint and wet or dry etc if
you don't already have any of it. And it's unlikely you'll get a pro
finish - or even if you do, one that lasts as well.
Personally I'd pay the 16 quid unless you really want to play with
something where making a mess won't matter. I was quoted 60 quid for the
same sort of thing - but in a metallic. And they'd only do it when a car
of the same colour came in for bodywork. That was a main dealer.
> The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the re-
> sale value won't be much then anyway!

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Mike P - 21 May 2008 16:28 GMT
> In article
> <87fe474c-061a-42ea-a1d6-c640f3c7ce1f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
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>> The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the re-
>> sale value won't be much then anyway!
I'm with Dave on this, if the cost is only £16, let someone else do it. By
the time you've bought paint, thinners etc you'll end up spending the same
if not more :-)
Mike P
Dave Plowman (News) - 21 May 2008 16:35 GMT
> I'm with Dave on this, if the cost is only £16, let someone else do it.
> By the time you've bought paint, thinners etc you'll end up spending
> the same if not more :-)
Just a thought - bodyshops only usually quote the labour cost - materials
being extra. And the minimum quantity of that colour they can buy could
cost a great deal more.

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DervMan - 21 May 2008 16:39 GMT
>> I'm with Dave on this, if the cost is only £16, let someone else do it.
>> By the time you've bought paint, thinners etc you'll end up spending
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> being extra. And the minimum quantity of that colour they can buy could
> cost a great deal more.
It could - but there's always the option of finding a busy Ford bodyshop
where they may well have that paint in stock.

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Doki - 21 May 2008 22:01 GMT
>> I'm with Dave on this, if the cost is only £16, let someone else do
>> it. By the time you've bought paint, thinners etc you'll end up
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> materials being extra. And the minimum quantity of that colour they
> can buy could cost a great deal more.
A hell of a lot of bodyshops have their own mixing equipment. There's almost
always a bit left over. And the people who work in bodyshops have been known
to save a bit of the paint... Best way to do it as if you mix the 100ml or
so you'll need to paint a mirror there's much more chance that you'll get it
wrong - the small errors in weighing the pigments are amplified by the small
amount of material being mixed.
Mark W - 21 May 2008 16:43 GMT
>I lost the back of the drivers wing mirror on my Ford focus (or
>possibly had it nicked!).
I> can get the part (£14) but it comes in some neutral colour and will
>need to be sprayed (spray costs £16). It's a navy blue colour.
>Is this a fairly easy thing to do myself or will I make a bodge of it
>and be better off paying a pro the labour cost?
>The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the re-
>sale value won't be much then anyway!
I'd probably decide to spray both mirrors black instead of trying to match
one.
Doki - 21 May 2008 21:59 GMT
> I lost the back of the drivers wing mirror on my Ford focus (or
> possibly had it nicked!).
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> The car is 6 yrs old and I plan to keep it for a couple more so the
> re- sale value won't be much then anyway!
If someone's offered to spray it for you at £16, go for it.
Otherwise you need to get the right colour base coat, waterbased metallic
paint and clearcoat in rattle cans. Which will probably set you back £20
upwards IME. And will need some skill.