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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / General Car Topics (UK group) / July 2009

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Puncture - what is cuurent practice

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John - 04 Jul 2009 18:42 GMT
My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.
Alan Smith - 04 Jul 2009 20:18 GMT
> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.

I would say no to tube, radial tyres have ribs in them the cut into
tubes, depends where the puncture is to whether it can be repaired. No
sidewall or near sidewall, TBH tyres are so cheap these days unless it's
got 6mm tread just put a new one on.

Alan...
John - 04 Jul 2009 20:31 GMT
>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
>> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.
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>
> Alan...

The nail is right in the centre. Tyres are costly and a limited choice as
they are Extra Load Rating. (88???) Had problems finding 2 for her recently
that fulfilled the spec.
Conor - 04 Jul 2009 22:22 GMT
> The nail is right in the centre. Tyres are costly and a limited choice as
> they are Extra Load Rating. (88???) Had problems finding 2 for her recently
> that fulfilled the spec.

I assume you mean the middle of the tread. Take it to a tyre fitters.
They take the tyre off the rim, pull the nail out, drill a hole and
glue a mushroom bung in with the "bulb" being inside the tyre to seal
the hole.

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GB - 05 Jul 2009 20:59 GMT
>> The nail is right in the centre. Tyres are costly and a limited
>> choice as they are Extra Load Rating. (88???) Had problems finding 2
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> glue a mushroom bung in with the "bulb" being inside the tyre to seal
> the hole.

It's like the dentist. They make the hole bigger before repairing it, too.
David Hearn - 06 Jul 2009 09:06 GMT
>>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
>>> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.
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> they are Extra Load Rating. (88???) Had problems finding 2 for her recently
> that fulfilled the spec.

I thought the Extra Load Rating were for large cars and MPVs - a Clio
seems an odd car to have Extra Load Rating tyres.  Or am I wrong about
why these tyres are used?

D
Adrian - 06 Jul 2009 09:47 GMT
David Hearn <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> The nail is right in the centre. Tyres are costly and a limited choice
>> as they are Extra Load Rating. (88???) Had problems finding 2 for her
>> recently that fulfilled the spec.

> I thought the Extra Load Rating were for large cars and MPVs - a Clio
> seems an odd car to have Extra Load Rating tyres.  Or am I wrong about
> why these tyres are used?

Not really. The current Clio is just seriously lardy. Nicole is not so
pert these days·
Scott M - 06 Jul 2009 16:44 GMT
> I thought the Extra Load Rating were for large cars and MPVs - a Clio
> seems an odd car to have Extra Load Rating tyres.  Or am I wrong about
> why these tyres are used?

AIUI, a tyre is rated Extra Load if the load index is greater than usual
for the size of tyre. So whatever size we have here is probably more
normally sold as 84 load index.

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Doki - 06 Jul 2009 21:02 GMT
>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
>> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.
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> or near sidewall, TBH tyres are so cheap these days unless it's got 6mm
> tread just put a new one on.

Eh? Naff brand tyres for an Fiesta / Polo / 106 can be had for less than
£20, but decent ones still cost £30 a pop, and tyres for any kind of decent
car are generally more like the £50 a piece mark...
Nick Finnigan - 04 Jul 2009 21:01 GMT
> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.

 No, a proper fix is a plug for a tenner. A nail in the centre is usually
repairable, unless she drove a distance on the sidewalls and ruined them.
John - 05 Jul 2009 00:43 GMT
>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a proper
>> fix to put a inner tube in - it has alloy wheels.
>
>  No, a proper fix is a plug for a tenner. A nail in the centre is usually
> repairable, unless she drove a distance on the sidewalls and ruined them.

Fortunately it was parked up for 3 weeks at my place - I noticed it when I
checked the pressures when she collected it - so perhaps a very slow leak
and not driven far.
DavidR - 05 Jul 2009 23:09 GMT
> "Nick Finnigan" <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> checked the pressures when she collected it - so perhaps a very slow leak
> and not driven far.

A nail may cause a slow leak, some don't. No matter driving on it so long as
it is kept topped up. As others have said, it's a simple fix and if not the
tyre fitter will advise. I don't know if they still do this but several
years ago I had one that couldn't be done on the spot, being in the
sidewall, and it was sent to a specialist for revulcanising.
John - 06 Jul 2009 16:35 GMT
>> "Nick Finnigan" <nix@genie.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> My daughter's Clio (1.5 CDI) has a nail in the tyre. Is it still a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> several years ago I had one that couldn't be done on the spot, being in
> the sidewall, and it was sent to a specialist for revulcanising.

OP
Job sorted - no problems - £9:95
Chris Whelan - 06 Jul 2009 16:39 GMT
[...]

> OP
> Job sorted - no problems - £9:95

Glad it worked out, and thanks for posting.

Last puncture I had was too near the edge to be repairable. On a tyre
that had done less than 100 miles...

Chris

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GB - 06 Jul 2009 21:01 GMT
> Last puncture I had was too near the edge to be repairable. On a tyre
> that had done less than 100 miles...

Me also. At a guess, more tread => greater ability to pick up and hold
screws and nails in the tread until they get fully embeded.
Zimmy - 08 Jul 2009 10:59 GMT
> [...]
>
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> Last puncture I had was too near the edge to be repairable. On a tyre
> that had done less than 100 miles...

I had one near the edge which could not be patched and ATS sent me to a
specialist vulcanising repairer who fixed it no problem (for about the same
price). Still running it years later.

Z
forextraining - 16 Jul 2009 09:43 GMT
Hey i think radial tyres are a better option if you want to sav
yourself from these problems in future.

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forextraining
Doki - 16 Jul 2009 14:31 GMT
> Hey i think radial tyres are a better option if you want to save
> yourself from these problems in future..

I think you'll find that particular year and model of Clio has centerlock
wire wheels, and it isn't possible to fit radial tyres without changing the
entire hub / carrier assemblies, allowing you to fit standard steel wheels.
And obviously, once you've done that, the beards will throw you out of the
owner's club.
 
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