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My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). Then at the moment my car is a Pugeot 106 XRi (1.1) Is it suitable if my next car is a Citroen Saxo? I like the car to be similar size as my previous cars. Would anyone recommend the Saxo? Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? Thanks,  Signature- Tony Sutton - http://www.hyperboard.co.uk - The Biggest Message Board! ------------------------------------------------------------- File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting. ------------------------------------------------------------- > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? I wouldn't go for a Ka - lots of wasted space in there. They're as big as a MkII Fiesta but with less room inside than a Seicento. Saxos are great if you can stand the dated looks and negative image of them - but I can't really see the point in replacing a 106 with a Saxo as they're essentially the same car. Personally, I'd have a Punto as they're a great design with loads of room inside, but still small on the outside. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, and the 1.2 16v engine is a real gem. SignatureSteve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300 - VW Golf Cabrio Alfa 75TS - Alfa 33 1.7ie - Nissan Primera(I can't explain that either) BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > room inside, but still small on the outside. Cheap to buy, cheap to run, > and the 1.2 16v engine is a real gem. Fix it again Tony -- James > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Would anyone recommend the Saxo? Some would, some wouldn't. Never driven one, apart from moving one about 10 metres for someone at work, and sitting in it being towed (for the same person) because the alternator belt snapped on it. So I couldn't really comment, except for the fact that the seats (well, the driver's seat anyway) felt really cheap and flimsy. Other than that they're cheap to insure, good on fuel, and handle reasonably well (allegedly) so could well be a good choice. > Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? I'm no expert, but I'd say a Saxo would probably rust less than a Ka, but like anything if you look after it it'll look after you - if you do get any minor rust on a Ka get it treated properly ASAP and it shouldn't give you too many problems. Ka's have the advantage that they're chain driven, so no cambelt changes required, but the Saxo is, I think, a fair bit more economical than the Ka - at a guess you'd probably average 40-45mpg in town in a 1.1 Saxo, and a Ka would only manage about 35mpg. But I'm no expert - dervman's site at www.dervman.com has lots of Ka info, and a brief review on the Saxo IIRC. Peter >>My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Peter By chain driven I do hope you mean the camshaft, personally with a pushrod engine I prefer a gear driven camshaft. -- James > By chain driven I do hope you mean the camshaft, personally with a > pushrod engine I prefer a gear driven camshaft. A series? cheers, clive > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? The 106 and Saxo are the same car with different badges, bodywork and trim. They're also based on the AX floorpan IIRC. I'd get another 106, as the Saxo has a bit of a boy racer image. I wouldn't bother with a Ka, you'll get more lift off oversteer in the 106 and the Ka only comes with 1 engine... > > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > has a bit of a boy racer image. I wouldn't bother with a Ka, you'll get more > lift off oversteer in the 106 and the Ka only comes with 1 engine... What he said. Get a slightly better model 106 - a nice Quiksilver or something... SignatureDan > > The 106 and Saxo are the same car with different badges, bodywork and > trim. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Get a slightly better model 106 - a nice Quiksilver or something... Yep. I was thinking of one of those to replace the Ka a while back. I still fancy something RWD though. > and the Ka only comes with 1 engine... How many do you need in one car? Although the thought of a twin-engined Paxo does sound rather tempting.... >My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? I think you'll find the 106 and the Saxo remarkably similar ... SignaturePete Cut out the carp to reply. > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you can buy - by quite some margin. I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, and on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. And as for comments about not being a very practical shape... I never understand this, most of the time people carry nothing more than a newspaper, yet when planning on buying a car some people go on and on about how much they can carry - are they planning to start up a removal company? No but in seriousness, all these people who drive round in empty estates, it would probably far cheaper to drive round in a little car and then the one day in the year where they actually need to transport something bulky - rent a van! Its £45! > Thanks, > > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you can > buy - by quite some margin. How many of the small cars have you driven? Are you sure that it's any better than a MK2 Fiesta? > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, and > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. It's not quite up to XJ standards... > And as for comments about not being a very practical shape... I never > understand this, most of the time people carry nothing more than a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > day in the year where they actually need to transport something bulky - rent > a van! Its ?45! Oliver Keating says something I actually agree with shocker! Vans are great fun to drive too. Or at least novel. > > > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > How many of the small cars have you driven? Are you sure that it's any > better than a MK2 Fiesta? A few, enough to know that the Ka is much more refined than the Toyota Yaris, which really is appalling on the motorway, and the handling is infinitely better than a renualt clio. > > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, > and > > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. > > It's not quite up to XJ standards... I wonder how much of it is placebo :) > > And as for comments about not being a very practical shape... I never > > understand this, most of the time people carry nothing more than a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Oliver Keating says something I actually agree with shocker! Vans are great > fun to drive too. Or at least novel. Vans are fun in their handling: they don't! > A few, enough to know that the Ka is much more refined than the Toyota > Yaris, which really is appalling on the motorway, and the handling is > infinitely better than a renualt clio. You what?! The Clio is an imperial fuckload better than a Ka. It looks better, goes better, is better equipped on the lower models, isn't a Ford, has more than one engine choice. As for not been good on a motorway run, i know someone with a 172, and that was both stable and quiet at *cough* and 35 indicated. (private motorway of course). > > > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, > > and > > > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. 'Punchy'? It has 59bhp. Its about as punchy as a coma patient. > > It's not quite up to XJ standards... > > I wonder how much of it is placebo :) Yea your right, XJ's are no more refined than a asmatic (?spelling?) little shopping trolley. > > > And as for comments about not being a very practical shape... I never > > > understand this, most of the time people carry nothing more than a > > > newspaper, yet when planning on buying a car some people go on and on > > about > > > how much they can carry - are they planning to start up a removal > company? I agree on the most part here, although i need a bigger car cos about 6 times a year i have to move all my worldy possessions 100miles :) They would NEVER fit in a Ka. > > > No but in seriousness, all these people who drive round in empty > estates, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > Vans are fun in their handling: they don't! I quite fancy a go in one of those 165bhp Merc Sprinters.... SignatureDan > > > The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you > > can [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yaris, which really is appalling on the motorway, and the handling is > infinitely better than a renualt clio. But the Mondeo is no better than a Sierra? I'd say the 106 / Saxo, Yaris and Clio are the main rivals of the Ka. I wouldn't go near another Ka with a shitty stick simply because they rust, and bits break that really shouldn't IMO. They are good fun to drive, and I imagine they're even better with the new 70bhp engine. But if I were spending my money on a car again, I'd choose one that didn't oxidise quite so readily. A 106 / Saxo is reputed to handle rather well too, have halfway modern engines and would be my choice now in that size class. > > > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, > > and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I wonder how much of it is placebo :) All of it, I'm sure. I own a Ka, so it's not really in my interest to slag them off. At 100mph in a Ka, you're doing a fair few revs as you're at top speed and the wind noise is pretty bloody loud. At 140 in an XJ you can go to sleep. The Ka is infinitely more refined on motorway cruise than say, a 10 year old Polo or Fiesta, but probably only on a par with a 10 year old Escort. Hardly big car refinement. > The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you can > buy - by quite some margin. > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, and > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. What big car? My ex has got a Ka 1.3, 1 year old. It's tinny, it rattles and creaks, the interior trim is low quality and it looks stupid. For what it is it's probably quite decent. She loves it. Personally I would go for a Peugeot or Nissan, neither of which I have observed going rusty after 3 years..... > > The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you can > > buy - by quite some margin. > > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, and > > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. > > What big car? That's exactly what I thought. I think Oliver meant better than you would expect. It certainly doesn't compare to a Jag XJ, which is what I consider a "big car". > The Ford Ka is, in my opinion, quite simply the best small car that you can > buy - by quite some margin. But as you've prooved time and time again, your opinion is pretty much worthless. I don't think anyone sane, even Dervman, would argue the car is a better small car than, say, a Yaris. > I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, and > on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. Have you ever driven a big car? I find this statement quite ridiculous... > No but in seriousness, all these people who drive round in empty estates, it > would probably far cheaper to drive round in a little car and But what if they don't want to drive around in a tinny, pokey little hatchback? >> I found the 1.3 engine extremely punchy, the handling was simply superb, >> and on the motorway it has the refinement of a big car. > Have you ever driven a big car? I find this statement quite ridiculous... Yes, he has - a Fiesta! >> No but in seriousness, all these people who drive round in empty estates, >> it would probably far cheaper to drive round in a little car and > But what if they don't want to drive around in a tinny, pokey little > hatchback? They're a dangerous trouble maker. > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Or am I better off with Ford Ka or something else? How much are you looking to spend? Have you considered the new Panda? They start at ?6295 OTR but you can probably wrangle that down a bit. > Have you considered the new Panda? But it will break down. SignatureRemove Xs to reply direct > > Have you considered the new Panda? > > But it will break down. He has already had a Citron and a Pug, should be used to it by now. > > > Have you considered the new Panda? > > > > But it will break down. > > He has already had a Citron and a Pug, should be used to it by now. Ah come on now, be fair, PSA cars may be a bit shonky in the sticking together stakes, but they're better that the wops! SignatureDan > He has already had a Citron and a Pug, should be used to it by now. I have to say that both cars has not broken down on me yet. Signature- Tony Sutton - http://www.hyperboard.co.uk - The Biggest Message Board! ------------------------------------------------------------- It's been a business doing pleasure with you. ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>Have you considered the new Panda? >> >>But it will break down. > > He has already had a Citron and a Pug, should be used to it by now. What I've been impressed with in both of my Citroen Xantias is that neither one of them uses any oil at all, and they've done 60 and 150 thousand miles respectively. You can't compare that to the Alfa Romeo (Fiat) 156 that uses a sump full of oil in 1000 miles. -- James > >>>Have you considered the new Panda? > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > thousand miles respectively. You can't compare that to the Alfa Romeo > (Fiat) 156 that uses a sump full of oil in 1000 miles. I've owned a P reg AX from new and all i've done is put petrol in it, (and change the oil of course!) Still has the original battery&exhaust! > > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > How much are you looking to spend? Have you considered the new Panda? They start > at ?6295 OTR but you can probably wrangle that down a bit. But that is a new car, and buying brand new cars is stupid I have decided. > > > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > But that is a new car, and buying brand new cars is stupid I have decided. Did you decide this before or after the new Merc you bought a few months back? SignatureDan > > But that is a new car, and buying brand new cars is stupid I have decided. > > Did you decide this before or after the new Merc you bought a few months > back? Before he bought the Merc, then he decided he'd quietly change his mind, bought the Merc, and now it seems he's reverted to his original opinion. BTW, stop snipping the who wrote what bit at the top of your replies FFS :). > My first car was a Citroen AX Echo (1.1). > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks, The Saxo and the 106 are the same car, so you're quite well placed to judge how reliable a Saxo will be. -- James |
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