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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Classic Cars (UK group) / May 2006

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This group is full of ignorant people who are to far up their own....

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:::Jerry:::: - 18 May 2006 09:10 GMT
Some people who post to this group are happy in their ignorance, so
bee it, how ever much they troll and mock it doesn't change the fact
that they are ignorant of the real facts.

I know, they don't, it's no skin off my nose if they want to stay in
ignorance.
RichardK - 18 May 2006 09:18 GMT
:::Jerry:::: wrote:
> Some people who post to this group are happy in their ignorance, so
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I know, they don't, it's no skin off my nose if they want to stay in
> ignorance.

No answer for the pillars being the division of windows, and the RX8's
B-pillar trim then, Jerry?

Richard

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:::Jerry:::: - 18 May 2006 09:48 GMT
> :::Jerry:::: wrote:
> > Some people who post to this group are happy in their ignorance, so
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> No answer for the pillars being the division of windows, and the RX8's
> B-pillar trim then, Jerry?

Look at the shell, tell me were the pillars are, and no the doors are
not the shell - they are (removable) body panels, even though they
may contain structural elements.

The shell has no centre pillar, in the conventional sense, the next
structural pillar back on the shell is the rear door mounting pillar,
as I originally said "FWIW I know of only one (mass produced) car
that truly shares a structural pillar (between front and rear door),
and that is the <insert correct model> Mazda RX8 </insert>, these are
of a centre pillar-less design were the rear door locks into the sill
and cant rail area and the front door then locks into the forward
upright (pillar) of the rear door."

I bet if I ordered a RH 'B post' for a RX8 from a Mazda dealer they
would ask me if I want the *rear outer 1/4 panel* or the *rear door*
and not supply me with the forward edge of the rear door or it's
locking mechanism...

How car manufactures describes things to the customer is not always
100 percent accurate, they often use simplistic terms that the
average customer will understand, or what is in the manufactures
interests.
RichardK - 18 May 2006 10:06 GMT
:::Jerry:::: wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> not the shell - they are (removable) body panels, even though they
> may contain structural elements.

Generally people don't consider the 'shell' when discussing a pillarless
design - like, say, a pillarless coupe. Perhaps, not knowing about cars,
you weren't aware of that ;)

Regardless. I see you have no answer for that, really, and want to have
a bit of a squirm over semantics ;)

> The shell has no centre pillar, in the conventional sense, the next
> structural pillar back on the shell is the rear door mounting pillar,
> as I originally said "FWIW I know of only one (mass produced) car
> that truly shares a structural pillar (between front and rear door),

Which is in itself total nonsense. The structural pillar for the front
door is the A-post. It only latches on the rear door's b-post structure.
If the rear door is open the front door has no way of latching, but it's
still attached to the car.

> I bet if I ordered a RH 'B post' for a RX8 from a Mazda dealer they
> would ask me if I want the *rear outer 1/4 panel* or the *rear door*
> and not supply me with the forward edge of the rear door or it's
> locking mechanism...

Why don't you order that, then, and let me know what arrives ;) Post is
not pillar. Different things.

> How car manufactures describes things to the customer is not always
> 100 percent accurate, they often use simplistic terms that the
> average customer will understand, or what is in the manufactures
> interests.

Mmmmhmmm. Or, perhaps you're just wrong, and the division between front
and rear windows is a b-pillar, and that's why they sell a b-pillar
trim. I expect the plastic interior trims on the doors along that pillar
are also b-pillar trims, if not just referred to as 'trim'.

Richard

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2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =-
"If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I
am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email *

Adrian - 19 May 2006 14:23 GMT
:::Jerry:::: (me@privacy.INVALID) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

> How car manufactures describes things ... is not always 100 percent
> accurate

Now, about those BLMC parts books that "prove" the one between the door is
the B-C...?
Pete M - 18 May 2006 22:04 GMT
In news:446c2b65$0$11186$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net,
:::Jerry:::: <me@privacy.INVALID> waffled on in a semi-interesting fashion,
it went something like this;
> Some people who post to this group are happy in their ignorance, so
> bee it, how ever much they troll and mock it doesn't change the fact
> that they are ignorant of the real facts.
>
> I know, they don't, it's no skin off my nose if they want to stay in
> ignorance.

Still spewing your garbled yarblings, Jerry?

Nice to know you've still not learnt anything.

Continue to troll, you're making me laugh.

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Badger - 18 May 2006 22:30 GMT
> In news:446c2b65$0$11186$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net,
> :::Jerry:::: <me@privacy.INVALID> waffled on in a semi-interesting
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Continue to troll, you're making me laugh.

He also trolls occasionally on uk.rec.models.rail, where he has a similar
reputation. Shame really, as when he drops the attitude he can actually be
quite helpful from time to time. He just has this total inability to admit
that just occasionally he might actually be wrong, and accept the fact
gracefully without resorting to insults. Most people over there have
"killfile'd" him.
Badger.
Richard Cole - 19 May 2006 20:17 GMT
>He also trolls occasionally on uk.rec.models.rail, where he has a similar
>reputation. Shame really, as when he drops the attitude he can actually be
>quite helpful from time to time.
Same on uk.tech.digital-tv, although not always helpful.

Richard
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