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Hi, I am considering a Silver Shadow or Silver Spur/Sprit as my next car, and wondered if any owners on here could answer some, Rolls-Royce newbie questions. Firstly, I have noticed the (in the UK where I am) that there isn't much difference in the prices of Shadows and Spur/Sprits. I was wondering why this is? As I would have expected the Spur/Sprits to be higher, as they are newer. So is there some reason why they go for around the same price? Are they not as good as Shadows? Or is it that the Shadow is getting more collectable? I have also noticed recently that there are now a few Corniches also around the same price as Shadows, they were always higher priced before, again why is this? Has the general price dropped due to the new Phantom on the market? At the moment I have a large BMW, and although being a big luxury car, when you want it to go fast it will. Will I find the same from a Rolls Royce, or will it be slower? Finally, can you use a Shadow, Spur, Sprit or Corniche, as an everyday driver? Are they reliable, etc? (I am not concerned with MPG) Thanks. > Firstly, I have noticed the (in the UK where I am) that there isn't > much difference in the prices of Shadows and Spur/Sprits. > I have also noticed recently that there are now a few Corniches also > around the same price as Shadows, they were always higher priced > before, again why is this? Has the general price dropped due to the new > Phantom on the market? Somehow, I can't imagine many people losing much sleep over whether to buy a sub £10k Shadow/Spirit or a £260k Phantom. If you _must_ have a Spirit, at least get a Turbo R. > > Firstly, I have noticed the (in the UK where I am) that there isn't > > much difference in the prices of Shadows and Spur/Sprits. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > If you _must_ have a Spirit, at least get a Turbo R. What he said. I'd love a Turbo R, but even at current values, I'd struggle to justify the purchase cost.  SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) realised it was Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:03:45 +0000 and decided it was time to write: >I'd love a Turbo R, but even at current values, I'd struggle to justify >the purchase cost. Just the purchase cost? The fuel bills wouldn't bother you then? SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' > steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) realised it was Mon, 11 Dec 2006 > 19:03:45 +0000 and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Just the purchase cost? The fuel bills wouldn't bother you then? Nah, because it would only be a toy. The purists may hang me for it, but I'd also seriously consider an LPG conversion. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) realised it was Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:07:53 +0000 and decided it was time to write: >> steve@italiancar.co.uk (SteveH) realised it was Mon, 11 Dec 2006 >> 19:03:45 +0000 and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Nah, because it would only be a toy. The purists may hang me for it, but >I'd also seriously consider an LPG conversion. LPG eh? Very sensible. SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' In news:1hq73l8.12ao7a81jd6p9tN%steve@italiancar.co.uk, SteveH <steve@italiancar.co.uk> wittered on forthwith; >>> Firstly, I have noticed the (in the UK where I am) that there isn't >>> much difference in the prices of Shadows and Spur/Sprits. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I'd love a Turbo R, but even at current values, I'd struggle to > justify the purchase cost. If anyone is even considering buying a Turbo R then *never* buy a carb one, EFi is the only way to have one. I've been in quite a few early to mid 90's Turbo Rs lately as a friend of mine is paying me to find him a nice one. There aren't that many nice ones out there for under £15k. There are a lot of dogs out there for £10-15k. So far I've only actually found one that was worth buying, a 95"N" Turbo R with re-calibrated active ride. 70k miles, FBSH, owned by old titled gent from Cheshire, which I could have got for £16500. To make it immaculate would have cost around £850, and re-calibrating the suspension would have cost another £250ish provided there were no dodgy spheres or sensors.. That would have retailed at around £22500 with the work done, so beware of cheap Bentleys. Mustard Mitt though, a decent Turbo R is bloody quick and handles remarkably well. SignaturePete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - <space vacant> Mercedes 190E Auto OMF#9 Ok, I admit it, I like Renault 5s. > Hi, > I am considering a Silver Shadow or Silver Spur/Sprit as my next car, > and wondered if any owners on here could answer some, Rolls-Royce > newbie questions. > Firstly, I have noticed the (in the UK where I am) that there isn't > much difference in the prices of Shadows and Spur/Sprits. I was > wondering why this is? As I would have expected the Spur/Sprits to be > higher, as they are newer. So is there some reason why they go for > around the same price? Are they not as good as Shadows? Or is it that > the Shadow is getting more collectable? Probably because the Shadow is a reasonably elegant car while the Spur downright ugly? > I have also noticed recently that there are now a few Corniches also > around the same price as Shadows, they were always higher priced > before, again why is this? Has the general price dropped due to the new > Phantom on the market? Dunno. Might be the problem with getting spare body parts - they were largely hand made. > At the moment I have a large BMW, and although being a big luxury car, > when you want it to go fast it will. Will I find the same from a Rolls > Royce, or will it be slower? The Shadow accelerates well enough to moderate speeds, but don't expect it to fly over about 80. > Finally, can you use a Shadow, Spur, Sprit or Corniche, as an everyday > driver? Are they reliable, etc? (I am not concerned with MPG) A well maintained one can be reliable, yes. But don't expect BMW prices for spares. Signature*One of us is thinking about sex... OK, it's me. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > Finally, can you use a Shadow, Spur, Sprit or Corniche, as an everyday > driver? Are they reliable, etc? (I am not concerned with MPG) They're a British, mass produced, car of the 1970s. And pushing 30. Do you REALLY think they're going to be reliable? If you really must - and I suppose from a BMW, a Rolls Royce is about the only way the nouveau-riché can go - then the pick of the bunch for reliability, image (though, I'm afraid no-one will know you're loaded instantly as they would with the Spirit of Ecstacy atop your grille) is the Bentley Eight - a "sportier" Mulsanne which was actually a little more basic, with a mesh grille, and aimed at the 40-something market. It is, I'm afraid, a Bentley and not a Rolls Royce (really, one feels Shadow/Spirit etc models are worthy of the title "Roller") - but it is often overlooked, and good value for the sort of car you're looking at. If you want British ambience, I think the later (mid 90s) Jaguar XJs offer better VFM. Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * > They're a British, mass produced, car of the 1970s. Rolls-Royce mass produced? > Do you REALLY think they're going to be reliable? Yes. Well, they are not the same as other cars, they are not built down to a price. They should have been made to a lot higher standard than anything else. > If you really must - and I suppose from a BMW, a Rolls Royce is about > the only way the nouveau-riché can go - then the pick of the bunch for > reliability, image (though, I'm afraid no-one will know you're loaded > instantly as they would with the Spirit of Ecstacy atop your grille) LOL, do you know me? > the Bentley Eight - a "sportier" Mulsanne which was actually a little > more basic, with a mesh grille, and aimed at the 40-something market. Well, I was thinking the Rolls would be more suitable for everyday, as the Bentley's engine has been tinkered with and tuned, and therefore more prone to brake. More to go wrong. Especially, the turbocharged versions. Plus, I'm 30 something and the Bentley is not the same image I want. And I don't like the mesh grille. > If you want British ambience, I think the later (mid 90s) Jaguar XJs And old Jag? I don't want to look like cockney gangster or an aging managing director of a small company, the old school business man, die in the wool Tory, smokes cigars and keeps a bottle of Scotch in his desk draw, like Mike Baldwin from Coronation Street. Not the image I want. >> They're a British, mass produced, car of the 1970s. > > Rolls-Royce mass produced? Silver Shadow may have well has been, they're considerably more plentiful than Austin 3-litres ;), the bodies were produced by Pressed Steel... >> Do you REALLY think they're going to be reliable? > Yes. Well, they are not the same as other cars, they are not built down > to a price. They should have been made to a lot higher standard than > anything else. Should have. They were trimmed to a higher standard. But the electrical components are much the same as anything else of the era. The Shadow II is what it is, and that's WHY they're £5K (or less) these days. >> If you really must - and I suppose from a BMW, a Rolls Royce is about >> the only way the nouveau-riché can go - then the pick of the bunch for >> reliability, image (though, I'm afraid no-one will know you're loaded >> instantly as they would with the Spirit of Ecstacy atop your grille) > LOL, do you know me? *snorts* > Well, I was thinking the Rolls would be more suitable for everyday, as > the Bentley's engine has been tinkered with and tuned, and therefore > more prone to brake. More to go wrong. Especially, the turbocharged > versions. It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged. > Plus, I'm 30 something and the Bentley is not the same image I want. > And I don't like the mesh grille. I'm 30 something and if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a gold-plated Hummer or something. (I am serious; if I was given a Rolls Royce of the 70s/80s free, unless it was a Corniche or Carmargue, I'd offer it as a swap for the best Citroen CX or even XM I could find). >> If you want British ambience, I think the later (mid 90s) Jaguar XJs > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > desk draw, like Mike Baldwin from Coronation Street. Not the image I > want. Then why on earth to do want the rusty, tired relic all of these sterotypes aspire to; ideally in white so they can make a bit of cash on the side running it as a wedding car? ;) This is all slightly tongue in cheek, of course - all cars have their merits - but I can't see running a Spirit/Shadow being a good move. Especially at lower end of the budget. Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * > Then why on earth to do want the rusty, tired relic all of these > sterotypes aspire to ideally in white so they can make a bit of cash on the side running it > as a wedding car? ;) Ahhhhh no not in white. Never. > This is all slightly tongue in cheek, of course - all cars have their > merits - but I can't see running a Spirit/Shadow being a good move. Well, I would keep my BMW as well. But I want to use the Roller most days, I don't see the point of having something and keeping it in the garage. > > Rolls-Royce mass produced? > Silver Shadow may have well has been, they're considerably more > plentiful than Austin 3-litres ;), the bodies were produced by Pressed > Steel... All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2. > >> Do you REALLY think they're going to be reliable? > > Yes. Well, they are not the same as other cars, they are not built down > > to a price. They should have been made to a lot higher standard than > > anything else. > Should have. > They were trimmed to a higher standard. But the electrical components > are much the same as anything else of the era. The Shadow II is what it > is, and that's WHY they're £5K (or less) these days. The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite. > >> If you really must - and I suppose from a BMW, a Rolls Royce is about > >> the only way the nouveau-riché can go - then the pick of the bunch for > >> reliability, image (though, I'm afraid no-one will know you're loaded > >> instantly as they would with the Spirit of Ecstacy atop your grille) > > LOL, do you know me? > *snorts* > > Well, I was thinking the Rolls would be more suitable for everyday, as > > the Bentley's engine has been tinkered with and tuned, and therefore > > more prone to brake. More to go wrong. Especially, the turbocharged > > versions. > It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged. Eh? It's an all ally unit. Signature*Corduroy pillows are making headlines. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >>> Rolls-Royce mass produced? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2. Which is, oddly enough, about the same time Rolls Royces ceased to be interesting to me. > The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are > bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite. And aerospace stuff is checked out more frequently. You know that Shadow IIs are as rot prone and potentially unreliable as any 1970s British luxury car... It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged. > Eh? It's an all ally unit. Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron wet liners. Learn something new every day. Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * > >>> Rolls-Royce mass produced? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2. > Which is, oddly enough, about the same time Rolls Royces ceased to be > interesting to me. Maybe, but a pre-war one isn't going to be terribly suitable for daily use these days. My favourite Rolls is the Cloud - an elegant design and timeless. I had an S1 Bentley for many years and wish I still had it. > > The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are > > bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite. > And aerospace stuff is checked out more frequently. You know that Shadow > IIs are as rot prone and potentially unreliable as any 1970s British > luxury car... Or any other comparable car of that era? And especially the Jag you recommended. They rusted for England. We're talking near 40 years old. But with the electrics they can be fixed. No surface mount throw it away stuff. > It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged. > > > > Eh? It's an all ally unit. > Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron > wet liners. Learn something new every day. It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised if the same engineers were involved with both units at one time. Signature*There's two theories to arguing with a woman. Neither one works * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron >> wet liners. Learn something new every day. > It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised > if the same engineers were involved with both units at one time. Unlikely - IIRC the Royce v8 was British designed and loosely based on a Chrysler lump, whilst the Rover unit was of course bought in from GM. > > It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised > > if the same engineers were involved with both units at one time. > Unlikely - IIRC the Royce v8 was British designed and loosely based on a > Chrysler lump, Ah - I thought it was based on a GM design. Rolls had tie ups with them through their auto boxes. > whilst the Rover unit was of course bought in from GM. It was based on the Buick design but not identical and certainly not bought in from them - it was made in the UK using different casting processes. Signature*If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > Or any other comparable car of that era? And especially the Jag you > recommended. They rusted for England. We're talking near 40 years old. > But with the electrics they can be fixed. No surface mount throw it away > stuff. I don't recommend a Jaguar of the same era, though - I recommended a much newer Jaguar. It is as much about image, though - I like Bentley, not Rolls Royce. Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * > if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly > find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a > gold-plated Hummer or something. I wouldn't. The plasma cutter and I have a hankering to make a pickup... 8-) > offer it as a swap for the best Citroen CX or even XM I could find). I've already had an XM. Wouldn't mind a CX (or an SM!) though. At least their hydraulics are more reliable than my limited exposure to Shadows! "Andy Dingley <dingbat@codesmiths.com>" <dingbat@codesmiths.com> realised it was 15 Dec 2006 12:09:59 -0800 and decided it was time to write: >> if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly >> find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a >> gold-plated Hummer or something. > >I wouldn't. The plasma cutter and I have a hankering to make a >pickup... 8-) Ah, sir has taste... http://www.rrsilvershadow.com/Gall/RRPic196680P1.htm http://www.rrsilvershadow.com/Gall/RRPic196680P2.htm http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm http://www.autoblog.it/post/4531/rolls-royce-pickup http://gallery.zoom.nl/image/2224/rolls-royce-pick-up.html SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' > >I wouldn't. The plasma cutter and I have a hankering to make a > >pickup... 8-) > > Ah, sir has taste... > http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm Cousin Jim-Bob done got hi'self some class! > Ah, sir has taste... > > http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk saying something like: >> http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm > >Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. Why? It's only a car. Get a life. SignatureDave SE6a >Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. > > Why? It's only a car. Get a life. Peasant > >Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. >> Why? It's only a car. Get a life. > > Peasant Hahahahahahaha :D You can call people Peasant when you're not looking at rusty old Rollers ;) Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * > >Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. >> >> Why? It's only a car. Get a life. >> >Peasant No, he's right. If I had the money, and just for the halibut, I'd buy a 250GTO, redo the inside in neon and crushed pink velvet, put a Chevy small block in it, jack up the rear end and drive it up and down the street in front of your house every day. Why? two reasons. 1. Because I can. 2. Evidently, it will piss you off. > the inside in neon and crushed pink velvet, put a Chevy small block in > it, jack up the rear end and drive it up and down the street in front > of your house every day. > > Why? two reasons. 1. Because I can. 2. Evidently, it will piss > you off. 3. Because you have no class. >> If I had the money, and just for the halibut, I'd buy a 250GTO, redo >> the inside in neon and crushed pink velvet, put a Chevy small block in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> Why? two reasons. 1. Because I can. 2. Evidently, it will piss >> you off. > 3. Because you have no class. Be fair - he's talking about a 250GTO. Not exactly the best looking 250. Now, if it'd been a Lusso, TdeF, SWB - or, to be frank, almost any other 250 - I'd be with you. As it is, it'd just be revenge for all the 250GTEs that have been chopped up to make wannabe-GTOs. >>> If I had the money, and just for the halibut, I'd buy a 250GTO, redo >>> the inside in neon and crushed pink velvet, put a Chevy small block in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Be fair - he's talking about a 250GTO. Not exactly the best looking 250. Maybe it's not the best looking 250, but it's by far the most expensive. That was the point. And anyone who thinks that ropey old mid 70s RRs have "class" is a laving rucking foonatic. Or a publican. However, feel free to suggest which car I could better use, and which might be more likely to piss off this pillock if I paraded it up and down the street in front of his house. Actually, I could prolly just buy a tatty Shadow, tint the windows really dark, lower it and put wide wheels and blue neon underneath. I think that would do it, and it would be a lot cheaper than any prancing horse. >>Be fair - he's talking about a 250GTO. Not exactly the best looking >>250. > Maybe it's not the best looking 250, but it's by far the most > expensive. Since when did money & taste go together? > That was the point. And anyone who thinks that ropey old mid 70s RRs > have "class" is a laving rucking foonatic. Or a publican. ITYF that most of that class of RR driver have long since moved on to Spirits or Mulsannes. > Actually, I could prolly just buy a tatty Shadow, tint the windows > really dark, lower it and put wide wheels and blue neon underneath. I > think that would do it, and it would be a lot cheaper than any > prancing horse. http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000EQ5IG6.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg >>>Be fair - he's talking about a 250GTO. Not exactly the best looking >>>250. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Since when did money & taste go together? I never said they did. I was just coming up with an example that could best piss off the misguided souls who feel strongly about it, and who cling to the belief that their knackered, tatty old RRs are somehow classy, even if they did only cost the said misguided souls five or ten grand. > > Actually, I could prolly just buy a tatty Shadow, tint the windows > > really dark, lower it and put wide wheels and blue neon underneath. I > > think that would do it, and it would be a lot cheaper than any > > prancing horse. > > http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000EQ5IG6.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg *shudder* That is *horrible*. Mind you, that's what happens when you give a chav some cash. However..... the PPC 'track day Roller' is an awesome idea. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > However, feel free to suggest which car I could better use, and which > might be more likely to piss off this pillock if I paraded it up and > down the street in front of his house. Whatever heap of rubbish you currently drive. Feel free to drive up and down the road outside my house if you like, my house is set far enough back from the road, I can't see it. >> However, feel free to suggest which car I could better use, and which >> might be more likely to piss off this pillock if I paraded it up and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > down the road outside my house if you like, my house is set far enough > back from the road, I can't see it. s/house/portacabin on a building site... Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember RichardK <atari@NOSPAMbtconnect.com> saying something like: >> Whatever heap of rubbish you currently drive. Feel free to drive up and >> down the road outside my house if you like, my house is set far enough >> back from the road, I can't see it. > >s/house/portacabin on a building site... Trailer/mobile home. Pair of daags. SignatureDave SE6a >s/house/portacabin on a building site... > > Trailer/mobile home. Pair of daags. Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. >>s/house/portacabin on a building site... >> >> Trailer/mobile home. Pair of daags. >> >Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. Mine's bigger than yours. Nya nya nya nyaaaa nya. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk saying something like: >>s/house/portacabin on a building site... >> >> Trailer/mobile home. Pair of daags. > >Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. Really? I wouldn't be so sure, cocky. SignatureDave SE6a >Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. > > Really? I wouldn't be so sure, cocky. Well after tracing your IP address, down to your postcode, yes I would be sure. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk saying something like: >>Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. >> >> Really? I wouldn't be so sure, cocky. > >Well after tracing your IP address, down to your postcode, yes I would >be sure. You really are full of sh.t. Trace this, c.nt. SignatureDave SE6a >Well after tracing your IP address, down to your postcode, yes I would > be sure. > > You really are full of sh.t. If you say so Mr Chapman. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk saying something like: >>Well after tracing your IP address, down to your postcode, yes I would >> be sure. >> >> You really are full of sh.t. > >If you say so Mr Chapman. Ok, I give up. You've proved beyond any doubt I'm Mr Chapman. Hahahahahahahahaha. SignatureDave SE6a >> s/house/portacabin on a building site... >> >> Trailer/mobile home. Pair of daags. > > Nope, just got a lot bigger house than you. That, I doubt - at least in my case. ;) Richard SignatureRichardK - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/ - retro, music, cars. 2006 Mazda RX8, 1992 Sera Phase III -= Do Not Tempt With New Cars =- "If the thought of something makes me giggle for more than 15 seconds I am to assume I am not allowed to do it". * 64 is 128 for email * We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Dean Dark <ddrake@comcast.notthis.net> saying something like: >If I had the money, and just for the halibut, I'd buy a 250GTO, redo >the inside in neon and crushed pink velvet, put a Chevy small block in >it, jack up the rear end and drive it up and down the street in front >of your house every day. Second that. One doesn't get the chance to see a real pimpmobile very often. SignatureDave SE6a We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk saying something like: > >Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence. >> >> Why? It's only a car. Get a life. > >Peasant No; you've heard of Flucker, the peasant? I'm the Peasant Flucker's Mate. SignatureDave SE6a > if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly > find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a > gold-plated Hummer or something. Well Harry Hill has got one http://www.harry-hill.tv/p1.html >> Finally, can you use a Shadow, Spur, Sprit or Corniche, as an everyday >> driver? Are they reliable, etc? (I am not concerned with MPG) [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > If you want British ambience, I think the later (mid 90s) Jaguar XJs > offer better VFM. If you want to spend £20k on possibly the best Turbo R in the country, email me :-) It's done less than 20,000 miles. SignaturePete M - OMF#9 Rover P6 3500 Auto Range Rover V8 Turbo (sold) Volvo 850 T5 CD Estate Mk1 Golf GTi 1.8 (For Sale) "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and is widely regarded as a bad move." unit244@defencecontracts.org.uk Wrote: > Hi, > i own a silver spirit 1983 and a 3.2 sport xj6 jag, the jag costs fa [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > clock-bargain! > mick-crashrepairma -- crashrepairman paid 4k for spirit with full service history and 60k miles on the > > clock-bargain! > > mick-crashrepairman Thats an interesting example. Absolutely everyone in the know says that you cant buy a good one for less than £10k. Well done you lucky thing. georgina Smith Wrote: > paid 4k for spirit with full service history and 60k miles on the-- > clock-bargain! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that you > cant buy a good one for less than £10k. Well done you lucky thing. i was offered an even nicer one, two weeks ago, a later fuel inj mode 87 model, one company owner 60k miles with full history for £6k unfortunatly it was white with black leather.-didnt want a weddin car! suggest you talk to sales managers at prestige dealers, they dont kno what to do with these when they come in, mine came from a chrysle dealer, and the second offer was from a lexus dealer -- crashrepairman |
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