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I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently that I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of choosing randomly. This is specifically for a large, black pre-war car finished in cellulose, and I'm concerned about getting silicones near it because some of it will need spraying in the future. Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice?  SignatureKevin Poole **Use current month and year to reply (e.g. aug2007@mainbeam.co.uk)*** > I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently that > I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of choosing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice? Yes, can help through personal experience. The problem with just about all polishes is that they leave swirl marks, very obvious on dark colours. I was put on to some stuff called Express Wax by the people who did my bodywork rebuild some ten years ago. You have to get the car properly clean to start with - maybe T-Cut, although it's a bugger to clean off; thereafter, just wash the car - let it dry, rub this stuff on then once it's dry it's a doddle to dust it off. Seemed expensive at the time - I think it was about £30 for a five pint container (sorry, don't do litres) but I'm only about a third of the way down after all this time. Might be worth comparing prices and quantity for whatever Halfords sell... From the label (just dug the thing out of the garage in order to answer your query) it's supposed to be for trade use only, for PDIs. It says "Chemical Express", tel 01827 251431. And I know a couple of demon tricks for cast iron exhaust manifolds, and tyres, at about a hundreth of the Halfords solutions. Both date from the thirties, but work. Let me know if you are interested - happy to share. Geoff MacK > The problem with just about all > polishes is that they leave swirl marks, very obvious on dark colours. I remember watching somebody cleaning a Ford Corsair with Sparkle aerosol furniture polish. Got a lovely shine on it - though I only saw it that day and I don't know how long it lasted or how it affected the paintwork underneath! I think it is silicone based though, so no use to the OP. > And I know a couple of demon tricks for cast iron exhaust manifolds, and > tyres, at about a hundreth of the Halfords solutions. Both date from the > thirties, but work. Sounds like Black Lead - used in the 30s to polish up the kitchen range. Am I right? Jim >> The problem with just about all >> polishes is that they leave swirl marks, very obvious on dark colours. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > paintwork underneath! I think it is silicone based though, so no use to > the OP. Yep most of that stuff is silicon and white sprit. You spray it on to the car and polish off with a damp cloth. Works like a charm. http://www.properautocare.com/autsuprespol.html This is good stuff, cover car let "dry" then buff off. To eliminate the unevenness you then above spray over with you furniture polish and polish with a damp rag. >> And I know a couple of demon tricks for cast iron exhaust manifolds, and >> tyres, at about a hundreth of the Halfords solutions. Both date from the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jim > >> And I know a couple of demon tricks for cast iron exhaust manifolds, and > >> tyres, at about a hundreth of the Halfords solutions. Both date from the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > Jim Spot on! Looks far more "right" than Tyre Black, or whatever it's called these days. And the trick with manifolds - run the engine to get it hot, then brush on Brasso. Might take two goes. Dries to a most acceptable light cream colour. A zillionth of the price of proprietory exhaust treatments. You can still find both products in hardware stores, although probably not in Halfords.... Geoff >> I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently that >> I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of choosing [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >thereafter, just wash the car - let it dry, rub this stuff on then once it's >dry it's a doddle to dust it off. Perhaps more commonly available is a finishing material that 3M manufacture called "Finesse-it" designed for use by machine or hand to remove haze or swirls. Or as another alternative, Farécla G10 extra fine grade super finishing liquid compound suitable for 2 pack, removes swirl marks and smears particularly on dark colours. Stephen. Signaturehttp://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes Using a British RISC Operating System 100% immune to any Windows virus. "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce >>> I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently that >>> I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of choosing [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > liquid compound suitable for 2 pack, removes swirl marks and smears > particularly on dark colours. Farecla do a specific compound for cellulose paints. I believe this is because the ammonia or something in the other compounds upsets celly. >> Perhaps more commonly available is a finishing material that 3M >> manufacture called "Finesse-it" designed for use by machine or hand to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Farecla do a specific compound for cellulose paints. I believe this is >because the ammonia or something in the other compounds upsets celly. I think you'll find that's the other way round, for example Farecla G7 paste is used specifically on Cellulose and it *does* contain Ammonia, although there's not that many compounds that do contain ammonia these days. The professionals tend to use Farecla or 3M products for their paint care. Stephen. Signaturehttp://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes Using a British RISC Operating System 100% immune to any Windows virus. "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce >>> Perhaps more commonly available is a finishing material that 3M >>> manufacture called "Finesse-it" designed for use by machine or hand to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > although there's not that many compounds that do contain ammonia these > days. Aha. I knew it was something to do with ammonia. Certainly 2 pack is a hell of a lot harder than cellulose and works differently, so IMO it'd be the saner option to use a specific celly compound or get in touch with Farecla's very handy technical man. > The professionals tend to use Farecla or 3M products for their paint > care. I'm not all that sure that professionals do much paint care. 3M and Farecla are certainly the most used for rectification and finishing in the bodyshop business, but most professionals don't hang onto any cars for long periods of time or actually bother using waxes other than to fill minor faults. OTOH modern car paint lasts long enough for most car owners with just regular washing, and it's still uncertain as to whether the OP actually wants an abrasive polish or a wax... > I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently that > I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of choosing > randomly. > This is specifically for a large, black pre-war car finished in > cellulose, and I'm concerned about getting silicones near it because > some of it will need spraying in the future. I don't think you should be too concerned about that otherwise it would be impossible to respray near any car. > Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice? I reckon on Turtle Wax Extreme. It includes a mild cutting compound - as do most polishes. Signature*No I haven't stolen it , I'm just a sh.t driver* Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. <snip> >> Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice? > > I reckon on Turtle Wax Extreme. It includes a mild cutting > compound - as > do most polishes. All polishes do, otherwise they wouldn't be polishes!... :~P > <snip> > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > compound - as > > do most polishes. > All polishes do, otherwise they wouldn't be polishes!... :~P Indeed. But most people call anything that shines and protects a polish. I'd guess there are some 'waxes' around that don't contain any... Signature*A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well* Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >> I reckon on Turtle Wax Extreme. It includes a mild cutting >> compound - as >> do most polishes. > >All polishes do, otherwise they wouldn't be polishes!... :~P There are plenty of "wax polishes" sold as primary finishes (mainly for woodworking) that have no abrasive capacity at all. Now we can argue about the etymology of polish and whether they ought to be called such, but you can buy things, they're labelled "polish", they aren't abrasive. > >> I reckon on Turtle Wax Extreme. It includes a mild cutting > >> compound - as > >> do most polishes. > > > >All polishes do, otherwise they wouldn't be polishes!... :~P > There are plenty of "wax polishes" sold as primary finishes (mainly for > woodworking) that have no abrasive capacity at all. Now we can argue > about the etymology of polish and whether they ought to be called such, > but you can buy things, they're labelled "polish", they aren't abrasive. Wonder where Speed 'n' Ease fits that equation? ;-) Signature*Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >I was so staggered by the choice of car polish in Halfords recently >that I decided I needed to hear the experience of others instead of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice? Do you mean polish or do you mean wax, (polish buffs, wax seals)? <snip> >> Which polish do you use, and how did you settle on your choice? > > Do you mean polish or do you mean wax, (polish buffs, wax seals)? I confess to using the term loosely: I suppose I meant "which maintenance and enhancement products for paintwork, especially cellulose, do you use?" Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of ordinary items? Thanks for the comments so far, gentlemen. SignatureKevin Poole **Use current month and year to reply (e.g. aug2007@mainbeam.co.uk)*** > Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really > examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of > ordinary items? According to the tests I've seen, the latter. Like most cosmetics really. 'You know your car deserves it.' Signature*Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of cheques * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > > Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really > > examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of > > ordinary items? > > According to the tests I've seen, the latter. Like most cosmetics really. > 'You know your car deserves it.' I've tried Autoglym on two dark blue cars - one cellulose, the other two-pack - and the dreaded swirl marks just wouldn't polish out. Wouldn't touch Meguiars simply because of the ridiculous advertising and publicity; no experience of Mer. Geoff MacK >>>Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really >>>examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Geoff MacK Its the spray furniture polish with a damp rag fixes that problem. Autoglym is full of silicon. r > > Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really > > examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of > > ordinary items? > > According to the tests I've seen, the latter. Like most cosmetics really. > 'You know your car deserves it.' The best car wax that I have used was carnauba wax sold by a door to door salesman in Surrey in support of a local charity that employed disabled ex-servicemen and fed the profits back into care homes etc. It was also pleasingly cheap compared to stuff sold at Halfords. Sadly since leaving Surrey I haven't seen any of these salesmen in Hants. >>> Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really >>> examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > door salesman in Surrey in support of a local charity that employed > disabled ex-servicemen and fed the profits back into care homes etc. The best I ever used was bought as "Bankrupt Stock" in an open-air market, after the manufacturer went bust. It was a 3 tin set called the Porzelac Polishing System. This was years ago - about 1971 I think, judging from the car I used it on, which I bought in 1970. Tin 1 was a Deep Cleanser (a bit like T Cut, I suppose). You used it on a newly washed car while it was still wet, then rinsed it off with a hose. Tin 2 was the Shiner, which I suppose contained some form of wax. You polished the still wet car with it and then let it dry completely, which left a whitish film. Then you wiped off all traces of the film with a dry cloth, leaving a shiny surface. Tin 3 was a Sealer. You put this on a clean cloth and wiped it over the car, and before it dried used another clean cloth to wipe off the excess. Then you let it dry, and it left a hard deep shine. The complete set took most of a weekend to apply (including an overnight dry after using Tin 2). But it was a magical finish. Bird droppings washed off in the rain. Even the sticky stuff you get if you park under lime trees washed off in the rain. I had that car for four years, and I never cleaned it again - the rain always brought it up like new. No wonder the manufacturer went bust. Everybody would have bought just one set of tins! Jim > >>> Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really > >>> examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Jim Thanks! Ever since this thread started I've been trying to remember the name.... Porzelac it was, and every bit as good as you say. Trying to work out dates from other events I'd guess I bought the stuff in 1970. Used the last of it (Tin 2?) about 1984, and greatly hacked off to find it no longer available. Geoff MacK >>>> Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products >>>> really [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Jim That was good stuff. >>>Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really >>>examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It was also pleasingly cheap compared to stuff sold at Halfords. Sadly > since leaving Surrey I haven't seen any of these salesmen in Hants. I have my doubts about those types of sales persons. We have them coming around selling pens for $1 and out of that 10c goes to the charity the remainder goes into the pockets of the organization distributing the products. > <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > really examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped > versions of ordinary items? Autoglym is (was [1]) fine if you don't attempt to 'do to much at once' assuming that the paint is unblemished (if it is you'll end up highlighting it), it's also easy to use - I preferred the old style wax paste if I wanted a really deep shine and good protection. [1] I would say that this experience was gained 15 plus years ago so the current formulation might be different now, since then due to being in a paint shop environment. :Jerry: wrote: >><snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > the current formulation might be different now, since then due to > being in a paint shop environment. Actually Autoglym have a product to restore the paint first was called Renovator?? which you prepared the car for the "hard" polish. This was the process which firms like "Ming" etc used as a paint protection plan. > :Jerry: wrote: <snip> >> Autoglym is (was [1]) fine if you don't attempt to 'do to much at >> once' assuming that the paint is unblemished (if it is you'll end [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > This was the process which firms like "Ming" etc used as a paint > protection plan. Yes indeed, that is why I asked (in another reply) for clarification as to if the OP wanted polishing (buffing) compound or wax (sealer). I know of no *effective* one step solution that will both polish and wax at the same time - in fact it's almost a oxymoron to ask for one! > Yes indeed, that is why I asked (in another reply) for clarification > as to if the OP wanted polishing (buffing) compound or wax (sealer). I > know of no *effective* one step solution that will both polish and wax > at the same time - in fact it's almost a oxymoron to ask for one! But that's how most on the market work. As I said Turtle Wax Extreme is one of the better ones at a reasonable price. Signature*If you ate pasta and anti-pasta, would you still be hungry? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks for the comments so far, gentlemen. I've never found Autoglym to work well on black paint; lots of swirls. I've had collinite recommended to me as something that gives a good shine and long lasting protection, and it's not stupidly dear as far as car wax goes. I also once saw a Porsche on a Swissol stand that looked stunning, but I suspect they'd had 3 blokes on it for at least a day... > > Any Meguiars / Autoglym / Mer fans out there? Are their products really > > examples of "getting what you pay for", or over-hyped versions of ordinary [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > had collinite recommended to me as something that gives a good shine and > long lasting protection, and it's not stupidly dear as far as car wax goes. I've had decent results with Mer but only when I've applied it whilst the car is still wet. Downside of that though is that you need to carry a polishing rag with you to scrape out the dried up residue from under trim that seems to still come out after every time it rains several weeks later. SignatureConor How about taking the safety labels off everything, and let the stupidity-problem solve itself? <snip> > I also once saw a Porsche on a Swissol stand that looked stunning, > but I suspect they'd had 3 blokes on it for at least a day... I think this is a point that many people are missing, there is no easy (magical) way of gaining a shine other than to spend time, and sometimes that means a lot of time, polishing and then waxing. If you want to get a deep shine you have to get rid of the imperfections, you might be able to get a smooth surface by using one of the 'automagical' paint sealers (aka silicon wax) but you are only sealing in the imperfections which can - and probably will - still be seen through the apparent sheen. > <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > silicon wax) but you are only sealing in the imperfections which can - and > probably will - still be seen through the apparent sheen. There is a quick way. It's called a buffer. You're still stuffed if the imperfections are deep though. There are a hell of a lot of glazes and similar products available which fill imperfections for a short time, which I expect are used heavily on show cars and cars photographed for magazines, adverts and so on. <snip> >> I think this is a point that many people are missing, there is no >> easy (magical) way of gaining a shine other than to spend time, and >> sometimes that means a lot of time, polishing and then waxing. <snip> > There is a quick way. It's called a buffer. That isn't always quick either, and if you do attempt doing it quickly you risk needing a re-spray when you burn through!... "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:22:18 +0100 and decided it was time to write: >I've never found Autoglym to work well on black paint; lots of swirls. Autoglym do a product called 'ultra deep shine' now which I have found quite satisfactory for use on my black TR3A: http://www.autoglym.co.uk/enGB/product-proddetail.asp?v06VQ=HF http://www.intuh.net/trshine.jpg A tenner a bottle, I believe, but it goes a long way. SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:22:18 +0100 > and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > A tenner a bottle, I believe, but it goes a long way. Gosh - just saved me £6990 on Zymol which someone recommended! Thanks, Geoff MacK > > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:22:18 +0100 > > and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Geoff MacK Geoff if you aint got £7k to spend just get back to Halfords theres a cheaper Zymol at about £12.00 for all you cheapskates ( and its bloody good too) http://www.vertar.com/zymol/zymol-cleaner-wax/ > "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:22:18 +0100 > and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > A tenner a bottle, I believe, but it goes a long way. Show me a picture with the bouncing off the bonnet towards the camera... "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:22:07 +0100 and decided it was time to write: >> "Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sat, 4 Aug 2007 12:22:18 +0100 >> and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Show me a picture with the bouncing off the bonnet towards the camera... http://www.intuh.net/trshine2.jpg Satisfied? SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' Yippee <yippee.109@intuh.net.invalid> realised it was Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:08:34 +0200 and decided it was time to write: >"Doki" <mrdoki@gmail.com> realised it was Sun, 5 Aug 2007 22:22:07 +0100 >and decided it was time to write: > >>Show me a picture with the bouncing off the bonnet towards the camera... > >http://www.intuh.net/trshine2.jpg Or this one, maybe? http://www.intuh.net/trshine3.jpg That's not my house you see reflected in the paint, BTW. It's my parent's. SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' > Yippee <yippee.109@intuh.net.invalid> realised it was Mon, 06 Aug 2007 > 19:08:34 +0200 and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That's not my house you see reflected in the paint, BTW. It's my > parent's. Nice. My Dad uses it on his TR3A too. Does anybody know the difference between 'Ultra deep shine' and 'Super Resin' ? Z > Yippee <yippee.109@intuh.net.invalid> realised it was Mon, 06 Aug 2007 > 19:08:34 +0200 and decided it was time to write: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That's not my house you see reflected in the paint, BTW. It's my > parent's. I can see that it's got a good shine on it, but with a paint finish of that quality, simply washing and chamoising it will give a very good shine. I can't see if it's swirly as hell which has always been my problem with Autoglym's stuff, which is why I asked for a picture with the sun bouncing off the bonnet towards the camera... I was reading some of your posts and assume that many of you want the best wax and cleanser out there. I can get this wax and other items and can tell you it is amazingly good quality, all natural, 46% Carnauba with Montan Oils. www.worldsbestwax.com I have used the clay, then cleanser and then wax on my car that I keep in the garage all the time and I have never had as good a finish. I can sell it at the web price plus postage. If you have any questions let me know. I enjoy reading your guys posts. Thanks, Gary >I was reading some of your posts and assume that many of you want the >best wax and cleanser out there. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > I enjoy reading your guys posts. Sniff, sniff, someone attempting to fry Spam, certainly smells like it?..... Gary <gary.steele@ns.sympatico.ca> realised it was Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:59:02 -0300 and decided it was time to write: Oh look, it's Gary Steele from Steele Detailing in - I kid you not - Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia! http://www.worldsbestwax.com/index.php?id=6 How's life in Lower Sackville, Gary? Making a living yet? Still collecting stamps? >I was reading some of your posts and assume that many of you want the >best wax and cleanser out there. > >I can get this wax and other items and can tell you it is amazingly good >quality, all natural, 46% Carnauba with Montan Oils. Go away, spammer. >www.worldsbestwax.com > >I have used the clay, then cleanser and then wax on my car that I keep >in the garage all the time You keep your car in the garage all the time? Don't you have anywhere to go? Or do you travel by bike & bus only? >and I have never had as good a finish. And when you keep it in the garage all the time, the finish stays that good! You clever boy. >I can sell it at the web price plus postage. > >If you have any questions let me know. My question: have you spent some thought on what the 'uk' bit in this newsgroup's name could stand for? And do you really believe everybody here is as stupid as you are? >I enjoy reading your guys posts. I didn't enjoy reading yours. Too eager to sell, too little to contribute. SignatureY. 'All parts falling off of this car are of the highest quality British manufacture' > <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks for the comments so far, gentlemen. My car has an original dark blue/green lacquered metallic finish. The previous owner had left it untouched in their driveway for about 6-7 years. When I got it I didn't even realise it was blue/green, it just looked a dull blue. The previous owner tried to clean it (looked like with a dry sponge on dust!) and put in a lot of swirl marks (ouch!). I used SafeCut (hard work) and then Autoglym Super Resin (red label) (really easy). The original owner couldn't believe it and everyone comments how great it looks now. I've never actually bought any polish (I borrowed the safe cut and someone gave me an autoglym gift pack), so I can't compare with much, but I am very happy with the autoglym, it gets rid of the swirl marks and I only need to reapply about every 4+ months (it is garaged though). In other words I am happy with Autoglym and I've never felt the need to look for something else. I can recommend their shampoo too - great for taking off bird sh*t and makes the water bead on the windows. Z <snip> > I can recommend their shampoo too - great for taking off bird sh*t > and makes the water bead on the windows. How well do the wiper blades work in a down-pour though?... > <snip> >> >> I can recommend their shampoo too - great for taking off bird sh*t and >> makes the water bead on the windows. > > How well do the wiper blades work in a down-pour though?... Fine, actually. I probably comes off in a couple of wipes anyway. I learnt a while ago that its more important to clean the wiper blades every time you wash the car (preferably with glass cleaner). Z M KLASYK? > M KLASYK? Or maybe klasyczne samochody ? Call yourself enthusiasts! Zymol is the only stuff worth buying http://www.vertar.com/zymol/ yep them small pots of the stuff really are 7 grand as well > > M KLASYK? > > Or maybe klasyczne samochody ? > Call yourself enthusiasts! > > Zymol is the only stuff worth buying > http://www.vertar.com/zymol/ > > yep them small pots of the stuff really are 7 grand as well Wonderful stuff! If applied correctly it also enables your Bugatti Royale to run on unleaded, and your Hurricane to fly on WW2 Russian petrol. At this point Little Red Hooding Ride came sliding down the rainbow, crying "Who's been sleeping in my porridge". Pass the snake oil. Geoff MacK <snip> > Pass the snake oil. Indeed, and many of you have been just that in this thread! >Zymol is the only stuff worth buying >http://www.vertar.com/zymol/ > >yep them small pots of the stuff really are 7 grand as well FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. Should I apply it with a polishing mop on a Bosch PMF 180E, or should I spring the extra money for a Fein Multimaster? > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden > volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. > > Should I apply it with a polishing mop on a Bosch PMF 180E, or should I > spring the extra money for a Fein Multimaster? Do you always act like a tit? > > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden > > volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. > > > > Should I apply it with a polishing mop on a Bosch PMF 180E, or should I > > spring the extra money for a Fein Multimaster? > Do you always act like a tit? Some will have got the joke... Signature*Not all men are annoying. Some are dead. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. >>> Should I apply it with a polishing mop on a Bosch PMF 180E, or should I >>> spring the extra money for a Fein Multimaster? > >> Do you always act like a tit? > > Some will have got the joke... I did. Subtle and understated. Just my sort of humour. Jim The message <4f0dd3bc88dave@davenoise.co.uk> from "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> contains these words: > > > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden > > > volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. > > > > > > Should I apply it with a polishing mop on a Bosch PMF 180E, or should I > > > spring the extra money for a Fein Multimaster? > > Do you always act like a tit? > Some will have got the joke... Only if they also read uk.d-i-y. :-) SignatureRoger Chapman >>> FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden >>> volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Some will have got the joke... Dunno why everyone started picking on my posts. ;-) > > > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned wooden > > > volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Some will have got the joke... Joke? Hardly classic Bernard Manning was it? > > > > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned > > > > wooden volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Some will have got the joke... > Joke? > Hardly classic Bernard Manning was it? Jokes are only funny if you 'get it'. Which you plainly haven't. Signature*Being healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Here's one "MER" fan. Next show you go to, seek out the "MER" stand and listen to the salesmans spiel about the product, convinced me, and have used the stuff ever since!! It's good!! My Dad swore by vinegar and old newspaper on all his old bangers and they didn't half shine,especially the black ones. Never tried Meguiar's, but do remember reading "Hot-Rod" magazines in my long distant youth and seem to remember Larry Meguiar's voice was always the one above just about everyone else's. Know what I mean?????? >> > > > FMR! I presume this is the stuff you use on those hand-turned >> > > > wooden volume knobs for a few grand that the hi-fi crazies buy. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jokes are only funny if you 'get it'. Which you plainly haven't. > Here's one "MER" fan. Next show you go to, seek out the "MER" stand > and listen to the salesmans spiel about the product, convinced me, > and have used the stuff ever since!! I think that says far more about you than it does the benefits of "MER", no doubt you also have those 'snake oil' pellets in your cars petrol tank too... :~(( ":---snip---- no doubt you also have those 'snake oil' pellets in your cars > petrol tank too... :~(( Oh, no, please don't start this one running again...! Geoff MacK Don't worry, I have ignored the "jerry" bait!!!! > ":---snip---- > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Geoff MacK "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > Do you always act like a tit? > > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jokes are only funny if you 'get it'. Which you plainly haven't. You obviously don't 'get' my comment either, it's hard work and I really haven't the time nor patience to help halfwits, go and ask someone whom is 'switched on' |
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