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Rob. - 29 Apr 2008 03:34 GMT What's the current fuel price in the UK
petrol and diesel
thanks.
Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 07:30 GMT "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
> What's the current fuel price in the UK > > petrol and diesel £1.10 unleaded, £1.20 diesel.
Rob. - 29 Apr 2008 08:05 GMT > "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > £1.10 unleaded, £1.20 diesel. Thanks, when were there in mid 2006 petrol just touched 1 pound.
Our petrol is about 70p and the diesel at 75p this has just taken a big hit up about 15p since Christmas
Having bought a diesel for economy and lack of something better than Japanese stuff, now found that there is an 8.5p pollution tax which heavy transports can apply for a refund. We have all the pollution gear on our car yet can't get a refund, something wrong there!
I would like to know why diesel costs more than petrol when there is less refining involved?
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Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 08:40 GMT "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
> Thanks, when were there in mid 2006 petrol just touched 1 pound. Nah, it's only done that for the first time this year.
> Our petrol is about 70p and the diesel at 75p this has just taken a big > hit up about 15p since Christmas Umm, give us a hint as to where in the world you are?
> I would like to know why diesel costs more than petrol when there is > less refining involved? Because there's more demand for those fractions of the crude oil.
Conor - 29 Apr 2008 09:48 GMT > Umm, give us a hint as to where in the world you are? f.ck sake...the .com.au in the header not a big enough clue?
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Adrian - 29 Apr 2008 10:03 GMT Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>> Umm, give us a hint as to where in the world you are?
> f.ck sake...the .com.au in the header not a big enough clue? Obviously not.
FFS, it was early.
Rob. - 29 Apr 2008 13:38 GMT > "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>Thanks, when were there in mid 2006 petrol just touched 1 pound. > > Nah, it's only done that for the first time this year. It was just under at 98p so it must have been stable at that for a time.
>>Our petrol is about 70p and the diesel at 75p this has just taken a big >>hit up about 15p since Christmas > > Umm, give us a hint as to where in the world you are? What - that's been answered, but the conversion through the cat amongst the pigeons :)
>>I would like to know why diesel costs more than petrol when there is >>less refining involved? > > Because there's more demand for those fractions of the crude oil. Yes that's what I considered as well, and the oil companies play on the fact the transport industry gets a rebate and its exported to other countries who will pay a bigger price, so its artificially high.
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Chris Bolus - 29 Apr 2008 17:43 GMT >> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >> saying: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Our petrol is about 70p and the diesel at 75p this has just taken a big >hit up about 15p since Christmas I was in Canada in February and theirs was the same price as ours. Except that was in Canadian $, of which there are around two to the pound... Makes it about half the price it is here.
However my Libyan colleague delights in pointing out that they pay 7p a litre in Libya. B*****ds.
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Stuart H. - 29 Apr 2008 18:12 GMT >>> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >>> saying: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > However my Libyan colleague delights in pointing out that they pay 7p a > litre in Libya. B*****ds. Current price here in Alberta, Canada (where the oil comes from!) is C$1.25/litre unleaded, C$1.30/litre for Diesel. Rough equivalent is 62.5p and 65p respectively, and everyone is screaming at how high it is!
Stuart H.
Chris Bolus - 29 Apr 2008 21:27 GMT >>>> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >>>> saying: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >C$1.25/litre unleaded, C$1.30/litre for Diesel. Rough equivalent is >62.5p and 65p respectively, and everyone is screaming at how high it is! It had just gone up to C$1.08 when I was there. I love Alberta! I wish I could live there...
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Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 08:28 GMT >>>> "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >>>> saying: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Stuart H. Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing been decimalised?
Adrian - 30 Apr 2008 08:56 GMT "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
> Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing > been decimalised? Canada's metric.
Dave Plowman (News) - 30 Apr 2008 09:16 GMT > Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing > been decimalised? The 'real' gallon is actually the US one since it predates the current UK one. Seems the UK size was changed after US independence and they chose to keep the original.
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Jim Warren - 30 Apr 2008 12:58 GMT > The 'real' gallon is actually the US one since it predates the current UK > one. Seems the UK size was changed after US independence and they chose to > keep the original. That seems highly unlikely. Britain had gallons in use before Columbus discovered America.
Besides, a Winchester Quart (an old measure for chemicals) doesn't convert into any of the US measures conveniently. It is a very easy Imperial conversion though.
Jim
Adrian - 30 Apr 2008 12:59 GMT Jim Warren <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
>> The 'real' gallon is actually the US one since it predates the current >> UK one. Seems the UK size was changed after US independence and they >> chose to keep the original.
> That seems highly unlikely. Britain had gallons in use before Columbus > discovered America. As ever, it's just plain "not that easy"... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon
Conor - 30 Apr 2008 13:40 GMT > Jim Warren <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much > like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > As ever, it's just plain "not that easy"... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon Wikipedia...the ultimate in a reliable source of information..
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Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 14:49 GMT > Jim Warren <jimwarren@OMITblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much > like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > As ever, it's just plain "not that easy"... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallon When you look through that sure does complicate things. Its like trying to justify, written by a University Professor in the world of words.
Although its written in Wiki, there is more history, as to why they changed the standard.
Its to do with this bit " Although the wine gallon had been used for centuries for import duty purposes there was no legal standard of it in the Exchequer and a smaller gallon (224 cu in) was actually in use, so this statute became necessary." They didn't/couldn't reduce the tax on the measure and the King at the time was instrumental in having the volume altered to the imperial standard.
Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 14:28 GMT >> The 'real' gallon is actually the US one since it predates the current UK >> one. Seems the UK size was changed after US independence and they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That seems highly unlikely. Britain had gallons in use before Columbus > discovered America. Happened in 1824 in which the British went metric with their gallon which weighed in at 10 pounds.
> Besides, a Winchester Quart (an old measure for chemicals) doesn't > convert into any of the US measures conveniently. It is a very easy > Imperial conversion though. The Winchester gallon, was 282 cu in and used to measure ale. And the Wine gallon which measured 231 cu inches which teh US kept.
Richard Porter - 30 Apr 2008 22:02 GMT The date being 30 Apr 2008, "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> decided to write:
> Happened in 1824 in which the British went metric with their gallon > which weighed in at 10 pounds. That may be decimal, but it's not metric!
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Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 13:57 GMT >>Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing >>been decimalised? > > The 'real' gallon is actually the US one since it predates the current UK > one. Seems the UK size was changed after US independence and they chose to > keep the original. I did elude to that above, real gallon.
Its the British tax system that altered the volume of the British gallon as they could not reduce the tax, what they did was increase the volume.
The US retained the original size of the gallon, which came from the British system.
Richard Porter - 30 Apr 2008 22:03 GMT The date being 30 Apr 2008, "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> decided to write:
> Its the British tax system that altered the volume of the British gallon > as they could not reduce the tax, what they did was increase the volume. That sounds like a typical British government fudge!
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Roger - 30 Apr 2008 10:04 GMT The message <48181f8c$1_2@news.peopletelecom.com.au> from "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> contains these words:
> Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing > been decimalised? The British Gallon is the real gallon. Don't be taken in my the inferior Merkin version.
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Richard Porter - 30 Apr 2008 10:29 GMT The date being 30 Apr 2008, Roger <Roger@nospam.zetnet.co.uk> decided to write:
> The message <48181f8c$1_2@news.peopletelecom.com.au> > from "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> contains these words:
>> Do they use real gallons in Canada, the British gallon or is every thing >> been decimalised?
> The British Gallon is the real gallon. Don't be taken in my the inferior > Merkin version. Why are we going on about gallons? I haven't bought a gallon of petrol since 1979, and that was only because I was about to run out. How many people bother to convert the price to per gallon? If £1 per litre wasn't a psychological barrier £5 a gallon certainly isn't!
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Adrian - 30 Apr 2008 10:39 GMT Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:
> Why are we going on about gallons? I haven't bought a gallon of petrol > since 1979, and that was only because I was about to run out. How many > people bother to convert the price to per gallon? If £1 per litre wasn't > a psychological barrier £5 a gallon certainly isn't! What fuel economy do you get from your car, roughly?
Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 14:02 GMT > Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What fuel economy do you get from your car, roughly? With my 12 gallon tank I do about 30 miles per gallon according to my speedo - gets awkward using them litres. :)
Stuart H. - 30 Apr 2008 18:44 GMT >> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding >> much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > With my 12 gallon tank I do about 30 miles per gallon according to my > speedo - gets awkward using them litres. :) We have to express fuel economy in "Litres/hundred km". Most folks convert back to the old MPG (Imperial) in Canada. Looks 20% better than US! We can brag that our petrol is better than theirs (tongue firmly planted in cheek)
Stuart H. Alberta, Canada
Richard Porter - 30 Apr 2008 21:59 GMT The date being 30 Apr 2008, Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> decided to write:
> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying:
>> Why are we going on about gallons? I haven't bought a gallon of petrol >> since 1979, and that was only because I was about to run out. How many >> people bother to convert the price to per gallon? If £1 per litre wasn't >> a psychological barrier £5 a gallon certainly isn't!
> What fuel economy do you get from your car, roughly? I know I should work it out in litres per 100km, but I usually work on 8 miles per litre, up to about 10 on long steady journeys.
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Dan Smithers - 01 May 2008 07:47 GMT > Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What fuel economy do you get from your car, roughly? five or six miles per liter. If I feel too depressed I multiply by 5 (or 4.54 if I feel enthusiastic) to get MPG
Geoff Mackenzie - 01 May 2008 10:08 GMT > Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What fuel economy do you get from your car, roughly? I'm getting about 10 leagues per firkin at the moment....
Geoff MacK
Rob. - 02 May 2008 03:39 GMT >> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding >> much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Geoff MacK
Thats not real good. What can you do to improve it?
Ian Dalziel - 02 May 2008 13:14 GMT >>> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding >>> much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Thats not real good. What can you do to improve it? Stop driving pissed?
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Pete M - 02 May 2008 17:30 GMT >>>> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, sounding >>>> much like they were saying: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Stop driving pissed? Bloody hell, my 4.6 does 41.7108596 leagues per firkin, in town.
You have problems.
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Geoff Mackenzie - 08 May 2008 15:42 GMT >>>>> Richard Porter <dontusethis@address.uk.invalid> gurgled happily, >>>>> sounding [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > You have problems. Action taken - cut down on my consumption of Old Scrotum Curler and re-calibrated the fuel gauge.
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Rob. - 14 May 2008 06:34 GMT >>>> Thats not real good. What can you do to improve it? >>> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Geoff MacK Value for money the Aussie way
A 2007 study found that the average Australian walks about 900 miles a year.
Another study found that Australians drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year.?
That means, on average, Australians get about 41 miles per gallon."?
Bloody good value that!
Richard Cole - 14 May 2008 20:20 GMT >Value for money the Aussie way > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Bloody good value that! Rob
Mind if I add that to my random signature collection?
Richard
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Jim Warren - 14 May 2008 23:56 GMT > Value for money the Aussie way > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Bloody good value that! Mind you, after 900 miles an Aussie is only a third of the way across Australia. In Britain, that is virtually the Lands End to John O'Groats distance.
Jim
pakeha@not.a.real.address.com - 15 May 2008 01:26 GMT >Mind you, after 900 miles an Aussie is only a third of the way across >Australia. In Britain, that is virtually the Lands End to John O'Groats >distance. > >Jim The Northwestern US of A has the same problem. If I walk out the door and hop into my old Capri and head east at 60mph, it'll be about 7 hrs before I hit Idaho, the next state east...
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Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 13:58 GMT > The message <48181f8c$1_2@news.peopletelecom.com.au> > from "Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> contains these words: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The British Gallon is the real gallon. Don't be taken in my the inferior > Merkin version. Nup!
Rob. - 30 Apr 2008 08:26 GMT >>>"Rob." <mesa@mine.com.> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were >>>saying: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > However my Libyan colleague delights in pointing out that they pay 7p a > litre in Libya. B*****ds. So are you going to nip over and fill up? :)
Chris Morriss - 29 Apr 2008 07:32 GMT >What's the current fuel price in the UK > >petrol and diesel > >thanks. £1.10 a litre for petrol. Risen sharply the last couple of days because of the refinery strike.
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Rob. - 29 Apr 2008 08:05 GMT >> What's the current fuel price in the UK >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > £1.10 a litre for petrol. Risen sharply the last couple of days because > of the refinery strike. Thanks, see other reply.
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