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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Classic Cars (UK group) / January 2009Petrol tank repair
The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where the feed pipe leaves the tank. They first thought it was the hose from that to the pump - but have replaced it with no success. What can be seen of the outside of the tank - ie the underside - looks to be in good condition. New tanks for the EFI version are NLA - and any NOS ones that come up on Ebay go for a fortune. The tank also has an internal rattle (loose baffle?) which I'd like sorted at the same time. Any suggestions as to a repairer preferably close to London? And one which could remove and refit it too would be brilliant since my old bones don't like this weather. ;-)  Signature*Why is the word abbreviation so long? * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > which could remove and refit it too would be brilliant since my old > bones don't like this weather. ;-) Ask in uk.rec.motorcycles.classics - it's a fairly common problem on older bikes, AIUI. > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > which could remove and refit it too would be brilliant since my old > bones don't like this weather. ;-) Might be worth talking to these people even if they're not in your area. They'll at least know what goes wrong with that particular tank. http://www.radiatorsonline.co.uk/fuel-tanks.php SignatureDave Baker > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > internal rattle (loose baffle?) which I'd like sorted at the same > time. BTW, what's the difference between the carb and efi tanks that stops you using a carb one? PS, just came across this. http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer?findpart&PartID=CRC4014&Page=rover/sd 1/fuel SignatureDave Baker > > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > internal rattle (loose baffle?) which I'd like sorted at the same > > time. > BTW, what's the difference between the carb and efi tanks that stops you > using a carb one? The carb one has an integral pump. The EFI one external. Signature*I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > PS, just came across this. > http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/cgi-bin/rimmer?findpart&PartID=CRC4014&Page=rover/sd 1/fuel Yes - I've ordered one. I did look a few months ago because of the rattle from the current one and they were NLA. Perhaps they've had them re-made. Signature*Why is it that rain drops but snow falls? Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > which could remove and refit it too would be brilliant since my old > bones don't like this weather. ;-) Dave, A few links that may be of some use in your quest - rovaparts.co.uk are sellers of used parts and I have always found them very relaiable and helpful. Cash http://www.roversd1club.net/tech.asp http://www.partsgateway.co.uk/sitemap/rover-petrol-tanks.html http://www.rovaparts.co.uk/ http://forums.mg-rover.org/ > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. ;-) > Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's where the > feed pipe leaves the tank. They first thought it was the hose from that to > the pump - but have replaced it with no success. Can you not patch it? I've used "Petropatch" epoxy putty on tanks with great success - one repair lasted 16 years and might have done longer if the tank hadn't got lost. There was an article in Practical Classics about petrol tank refurbishment recently. Sorry, haven't kept it, but within the last six months, I think. Ian In article <e9ecf830-9284-4c11-badb-4ee5e1d562cf@35g2000pry.googlegroups.com>, > > The tank on my SD1 Rover is leaking - according to the MOT people. > > ;-) Not by much as it never shows on the ground. They reckon it's > > where the feed pipe leaves the tank. They first thought it was the > > hose from that to the pump - but have replaced it with no success. > Can you not patch it? I've used "Petropatch" epoxy putty on tanks with > great success - one repair lasted 16 years and might have done longer > if the tank hadn't got lost. It's pretty difficult to get at - you have to remove a cover plate - so I'm not sure I could be bothered with that sort of thing. Besides, I'd like to sort the rattle too. > There was an article in Practical Classics about petrol tank > refurbishment recently. Sorry, haven't kept it, but within the last > six months, I think. I'll look out of curiosity. > Ian Signature*Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Hi Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts at repairs on leaks or rewelding baffles etc The residual vapour is too risky and the picture article showed a company fixing a tank after much cleaning and removal of fuel vapours Cheers mark > Hi > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cheers > mark If you flow an inert gas through the tank while welding while welding it is guite safe. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 > Hi > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cheers > mark I fail to see why nearly filling it with water before welding won't work Rob Graham >> Hi >> Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Rob Graham Its still not safe - I know from experience. plus you don;t get enough heat into the tank for the repair to stick. petrol stays in the joints and does not wash out. <welding old petrol tanks> >Its still not safe - I know from experience. plus you don;t get enough >heat into the tank for the repair to stick. > >petrol stays in the joints and does not wash out. I lost most of my eyebrows one time years ago to petrol-soaked rust on the exterior of a tank. >>> Hi >>> Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > petrol stays in the joints and does not wash out. detergent & steam, Or hot water & leave it a week. But you'd want to fill it, not nearly fill it. >>>> Hi >>>> Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > detergent & steam, Or hot water & leave it a week. But you'd want to > fill it, not nearly fill it. After you water treat the tank a lighted taper (with caution) can be used to proof the tank is safe >>>>> Hi >>>>> Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > After you water treat the tank a lighted taper (with caution) can be > used to proof the tank is safe Or not :-) We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> saying something like: >I fail to see why nearly filling it with water before welding won't work It works perfectly. Any time I've done it, I filled it right up. > >I fail to see why nearly filling it with water before welding won't work > It works perfectly. Any time I've done it, I filled it right up. The pros steam clean them for 2 hours before any welding, etc. Signature*Stable Relationships Are For Horses. * Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "robgraham" <rttgrahamwow@btinternet.com> saying something like: >I fail to see why nearly filling it with water before welding won't work It works perfectly. Any time I've done it, I filled it right up. > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts > at repairs on leaks or rewelding baffles etc > The residual vapour is too risky and the picture article showed a company > fixing a tank after much cleaning and removal of fuel vapours Id agree with that. Back in the 70s my Triumph petrol tank started to leak because of rust pinholes on the underside. I removed the tank, steamed it to get the last residues of petrol out, removed the tank sender unit and left it in the open air for a week to allow it to vent. Then I cleaned up the underside and attempted to sweat a patch into place. The first touch of the gas torch and the tank took off vertically. Fortunately I'm not daft enought to lean over the work. A friend claimed the tank got up to the height of the local trees, about 15-20ft before falling to earth. I gave up and bought a new one. >> Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY >> attempts [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I gave up and bought a new one. Although that's always achievable with a gas torch & a fairly enclosed tank. > Hi > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts > at repairs on leaks... Doing it with epoxy putty is perfectly safe. You have to be a little careful rubbing down the area, of course, but there' a reason for the "wet" in "wet and dry" ... Ian > there' a reason for the > "wet" in "wet and dry" ... It will be what one's underpants are if the paper causes a spark while sanding down the area of the petrol tank to be patched. When I was an apprentice sheet metal worker in the 1960's, we used to repair petrol tanks. We steam cleaned them first, then left them for about a week in a warm corner to "de-gas" before attempting a repair. Small repairs were done using "Fryolux" paint, on well rubbed down bare metal, and a terneplate patch soldered on with a big soldering iron. If a larger one was necessary then it was a "cut and shut" job using oxy- acetylene,but only after rewashing the tank and drying it in a small oven. Never saw one "go" using this method. I did know a guy who had severe facial burns from an exploding tank which had been empty for a while but not washed out. He was dismantling the car using a "Gas-axe". >> there' a reason for the >> "wet" in "wet and dry" ... > > It will be what one's underpants are if the paper causes a spark while > sanding down the area of the petrol tank to be patched. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "anne smith" <as.as7@tiscali.co.uk> saying something like: >Hi > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts >at repairs on leaks or rewelding baffles etc Only to be expected from a magazine staffed by incompetent w.nkers. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "anne smith" <as.as7@tiscali.co.uk> saying something like: >Hi > Re the article on repairing fuel tanks,they said NO NO NO to DIY attempts >at repairs on leaks or rewelding baffles etc Only to be expected from a magazine staffed by incompetent w.nkers. |
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