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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Classic Cars (UK group) / November 2009

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Advisability of driving Borg Warner without prop?

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Alex - 17 Nov 2009 19:20 GMT
I've got a RR 200Tdi with a BW xfer box, the front prop is ducked
(specifically it's in about 4 pieces, two of which are on the road
somewhere). I know the LT230 shouldn't be driven far/fast with the
difflock on, what about the BW box? is it likely to be affected in any
way?

Alex
Adrian - 17 Nov 2009 23:15 GMT
Alex <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

> I've got a RR 200Tdi with a BW xfer box, the front prop is ducked
> (specifically it's in about 4 pieces, two of which are on the road
> somewhere). I know the LT230 shouldn't be driven far/fast with the
> difflock on, what about the BW box? is it likely to be affected in any
> way?

Problem with using any 4x4 on the road with the centre diff locked is
that you'll get "wind-up" from slight differences in the rate of rotation
of the front and rear prop-shafts, due to slight differences in tyres
sizes, and from slight differences in distance travelled due to the
different lines the front and rear take on corners.

With the front prop-shaft removed, that won't be a problem.
Pete M - 18 Nov 2009 00:21 GMT
> I've got a RR 200Tdi with a BW xfer box, the front prop is ducked
> (specifically it's in about 4 pieces, two of which are on the road
> somewhere). I know the LT230 shouldn't be driven far/fast with the
> difflock on, what about the BW box? is it likely to be affected in any
> way?

Ah bugger, I've got a spare front prop but it's for the earlier transfer
box.

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Badger - 18 Nov 2009 17:19 GMT
> I've got a RR 200Tdi with a BW xfer box, the front prop is ducked
> (specifically it's in about 4 pieces, two of which are on the road
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>
> Alex

DON'T DO IT!

Seriously, it's ok with an LT230 transfer box to run with it locked and no
front prop (notwithstanding the "strange" handling characteristics), but not
a Borg-Warner, due to the internal viscous coupling. As there will be no
resistance to the front output shaft rotating faster than the rear, the
torque of the engine will overcome the viscous and essentially fry it in a
very short time.

Badger.
 
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