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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Classic Cars (UK group) / October 2003

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Linda Murray - 25 Oct 2003 16:46 GMT
I have a 1981 Ford Fiesta Popluar in very reasonable condition and would
like to sell it.

It has been garaged from birth and been driven for the last 20 odd years
by my mum who is now 88 and too old to drive it.

It has MOT and TAX and a new clutch & goes like a bird.

Would it be a good idea to sell it on EBAY? If so, how much would I
expect to get for it?
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Linda Murray - Edinburgh Scotland.   UK
ljm@mur.org.uk
AWM - 25 Oct 2003 17:03 GMT
> I have a 1981 Ford Fiesta Popluar in very reasonable condition and would
> like to sell it.
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> Linda Murray - Edinburgh Scotland.   UK
> ljm@mur.org.uk

To be honest you wouldn't get a lot for it, it would just be regarded as an
old Fiesta and 2nd hand car prices are at an all time low, the fact it the
most basic model dosen't exactly help either. You could try ebay but you
have to beware there are a a large number of crooks frequent eBay   be
particularly aware of Pay-Pal scam artists.
It a pity because the Mk1 Fiesta was a pretty good  car  (for a Ford), I
have fond memories of a Mk1 1100L
DocDelete - 25 Oct 2003 19:07 GMT
> You could try ebay but you
> have to beware there are a a large number of crooks frequent eBay   be
> particularly aware of Pay-Pal scam artists.

Could you explain that last bit please? I've been selling a few bits and
bobs recently on Ebay, curious to hear what a PayPal scam artist is...has
someone diddled you and if so, how?

Ta.

--
Ken Davidson
AWM - 25 Oct 2003 21:13 GMT
> > You could try ebay but you
> > have to beware there are a a large number of crooks frequent eBay   be
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> --
> Ken Davidson

Ebay if full of scam artists as well as the 99% other decent honest buyers
and sellers, I am not going to go into the mechanics of the pay-pal con
trick incase it gives an less than honest usenet reader a head start on a
career in internet crime, lets just say a an increasing number of eBay
sellers no longer take pay-pal as a method of payment - which is a pity
because it was a quick and easy way to close a deal. Before buying check
the sellers ebay history carefully not a guarantee as there are a lot of
faked and padded histories and also bad sellers/buyers often give the other
(the wronged party) bad feed back or hold over the the threat of bad feed
back over the wronged party to prevent them complaining.
In about 35 deals I have encountered two down right crooks -- one deals in
computer parts the other clasic car parts.
916sen - 25 Oct 2003 21:21 GMT
> > > You could try ebay but you
> > > have to beware there are a a large number of crooks frequent eBay   be
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Ebay if full of scam artists as well as the 99% other decent honest buyers
> and sellers,

full = 1%

make your mind up !

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916sen
Samuel Clemens - 25 Oct 2003 21:23 GMT
> > Ebay if full of scam artists as well as the 99% other decent honest buyers
> > and sellers,
>
> full = 1%
>
> make your mind up !

1% is far fuller of crooks than I would like ...
AWM - 25 Oct 2003 21:51 GMT
"916sen" <senn@piston916ducati.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dXAmb.1479$CB2.14454936@news-> > Ebay if full of scam artists as well
as the 99% other decent honest buyers
> > and sellers,
>
> full = 1%
>
> make your mind up !

Trouble is the scam artists do an awful lot of deals

> --
>
> 916sen
916sen - 25 Oct 2003 22:04 GMT
> "916sen" <senn@piston916ducati.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dXAmb.1479$CB2.14454936@news-> > Ebay if full of scam artists as well
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Trouble is the scam artists do an awful lot of deals

:-)

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916sen
Ian Johnston - 27 Oct 2003 11:52 GMT
> Ebay if full of scam artists as well as the 99% other decent honest buyers
> and sellers, I am not going to go into the mechanics of the pay-pal con
> trick incase it gives an less than honest usenet reader a head start on a
> career in internet crime, lets just say a an increasing number of eBay
> sellers no longer take pay-pal as a method of payment - which is a pity
> because it was a quick and easy way to close a deal

Quick and easy? As in "enter your credit card details, then we'll
charge you 99c, then you have to log in again using the transaction
record number on your credit card bill (which you may have to phone
your card issuer to get if you don't want to wait a month) and sign up
to our bizarrely arcane terms and conditions?

Why Ebay run that stupid system as well as the "enter your switch
number ... that's it" paymenst system I have no idea. I don't use
Paypal and I won't use Paypal.

Ian
Conor Turton - 25 Oct 2003 19:08 GMT
> I have a 1981 Ford Fiesta Popluar in very reasonable condition and would
> like to sell it.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Would it be a good idea to sell it on EBAY? If so, how much would I
> expect to get for it?

You'll get nack all on E-Bay. Get a copy of Classic Ford magazine and
advertise it in there.

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Conor

Hi. This is my friend, Jack sh.t, and you don't know him.

Campingstoveman - 25 Oct 2003 22:02 GMT
Gentlemen and Lady.

I have been following this thread this evening and thought I might add my
piece.
There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because last night I
received an email from Paypal asking me to forward my Credit Card details
because they were carrying out a review and until I could forward the
information I would not be able to sell on EBAY.
No problem you may think apart for the fact that neither my wife or I have
or want a Credit Card, if we don't have the cash we cant afford it, and also
I have never registered with eBay or paypal to sell anything.
I do buy occasionally and send cheques or postal orders.
I therefore have to assume that this is a scam  for me to pass on my
details.

Martin Perman

> > I have a 1981 Ford Fiesta Popluar in very reasonable condition and would
> > like to sell it.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Hi. This is my friend, Jack sh.t, and you don't know him.
AWM - 25 Oct 2003 22:29 GMT
> Gentlemen and Lady.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Martin Perman

Yes thats one of the better known PayPal  scams  contact PayPal directly to
report it
Dave Plowman - 26 Oct 2003 00:15 GMT
> There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because last
> night I received an email from Paypal asking me to forward my Credit
> Card details because they were carrying out a review and until I could
> forward the information I would not be able to sell on EBAY.

That mail wasn't from Paypal, but made to look like it was. As was the
reply to address. But it would actually go to somewhere else. It's the
same sort of thing as the recent Barclay's bank scam where they ask you
for your PIN. And Natwest, according to the news today.

If you get anything like this, simply go to the proper website
                   ***using your URL***
and if they want any extra information etc they'll soon ask you.

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Geoff Mackenzie - 26 Oct 2003 15:36 GMT
> > There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because last
> > night I received an email from Paypal asking me to forward my Credit
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> --
And Citibank, judging by the same request I had yesterday asking for my card
and PIN number.  I don't have a Citibank card.

Geof MacK
Richard H Huelin - 26 Oct 2003 15:48 GMT
> > > There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because last
> > > night I received an email from Paypal asking me to forward my Credit
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >                     ***using your URL***
> > and if they want any extra information etc they'll soon ask you.

> And Citibank, judging by the same request I had yesterday asking for my card
> and PIN number.  I don't have a Citibank card.

And Nationwide, it seems that the spam scam scum will leave no stone
unturned in their search for naive people waiting to be fleeced.  The
scum behind the scam seem to be in the former Soviet Union so I guess it
is not about to stop anytime soon.
Mike G - 26 Oct 2003 16:09 GMT
> > > > There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because
> last
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> And Nationwide,

Add Halifax to the list. I received a similar rquest for my
account details.
I haven't got a Halifax account.
Mike.
J - 27 Oct 2003 11:29 GMT
Paypal's a reasonable system and allows small time hobby traders to accept
credit cards and deal with "instant" transactions but it's expensive and
their trading terms are pretty draconian. They seem to be able to freeze
your account for any number of fairly trivial reasons - I've done quite a
bit of trade recently, all without much in the way of problem until someone
decided to raise a complaint on Paypal, you can't actually talk to or
correspond with a real person it seems. As the situation didn't fit their
scenarios I was in danger of losing the account with all the cash in it just
over a misunderstanding that had already been cleared up! Fortunately for me
the guy who complained withdrew the complaint and all was well but I can see
why people prefer to trade without Paypal. There are alternatives including
Nochex and all the other money transfer services but Paypal seems to be the
only one buyers like - out of about 200 transactions three quarters were
Paypal, a few cash, postal orders and bank transfers and the rest, about 35
were cheques.
I've never had any bad payments - not yet anyway but the golden rules are
simple
1 It's not paid until you can see it in your account as available funds
2 A cheque is just a piece of paper until 1 occurs
3 Paypal don't charge to withdraw sums over ?50 so when there's ?50 in
there, take it out!
4 Do ALL your business with Paypal themselves through their website and none
of it through email

Oh and as a general rule your credit card or any PIN number really is yours,
no one, not even the Bank will ask for it all - don't give it to anyone,
ever!

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J

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Geoff Mackenzie - 27 Oct 2003 17:28 GMT
> > > There must be something going on in reference to Paypal because last
> > > night I received an email from Paypal asking me to forward my Credit
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>
> Geof MacK

And Lloyds today.

Geoff MacK
 
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