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Brimstone - 17 May 2008 14:21 GMT
I think having a different speed limit for different directions on the same
road can be useful in some locations. Nut, this is just silly and a clear
case of the people erecting the signs being complete dickheads.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1966701/Speed-limit-signs-puzzle-drivers-
in-Manchester.html


Speed limit signs puzzle drivers in Manchester

Motorists were left confused when council workers erected two signs with
different speed limits at the entrance to a road.

One sign in residential Stratton Road, Chorlton, Manchester, read 30mph but
the other read 20mph.

Resident Harold Lantsberry said: "It's quite ridiculous and I wondered at
first whether it's some kind of joke.

"I don't know which speed the council is going to try and enforce, but
perhaps it's simply an IQ test for harassed drivers."

Mr Lantsberry, a retired teacher who has lived on the road for 55 years with
his wife, added: "We were told last year that the street was going to get
speed limits, but now to get two different signs is inexplicable."

Manchester City Council has admitted that a mistake was made installing the
signs, which were intended to reduce the speed limit in the road from 30mph
to 20mph.

A spokesman for Manchester City Council said: "We are aware that a mistake
has been made in the mounting of the signs and it will be rectified as soon
as possible."
Elder - 17 May 2008 15:32 GMT
> I think having a different speed limit for different directions on the same
> road can be useful in some locations. Nut, this is just silly and a clear
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> has been made in the mounting of the signs and it will be rectified as soon
> as possible."

I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
applies.
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baggy1963 - 17 May 2008 17:25 GMT
"I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed
limit
applies."

Not in this case as there are street lamps. Isn't the sign on the left
just the wrong way round?

In one area of Stockport 20 is painted on every speed hump. Portsmouth
has 20 mph repeaters.
Elder - 17 May 2008 20:47 GMT
In article <1ebd6ee4-4a0f-4b6d-843e-4e746ed7a4b8
@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, stephenb91@hotmail.com says...
> "I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed
> limit
> applies."
>
> Not in this case as there are street lamps. Isn't the sign on the left
> just the wrong way round?

And what is the speed limit in an NSL area with street lamps at the
proscribed interval?
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Ian Dalziel - 17 May 2008 22:08 GMT
>In article <1ebd6ee4-4a0f-4b6d-843e-4e746ed7a4b8
>@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, stephenb91@hotmail.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>And what is the speed limit in an NSL area with street lamps at the
>proscribed interval?

When were streetlamps banned?

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Elder - 17 May 2008 22:45 GMT
> >In article <1ebd6ee4-4a0f-4b6d-843e-4e746ed7a4b8
> >@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, stephenb91@hotmail.com says...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> When were streetlamps banned?

You are quite correct, and now I still can't think what the exact word I
was thinking of is?
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Huge - 18 May 2008 14:31 GMT
>> >In article <1ebd6ee4-4a0f-4b6d-843e-4e746ed7a4b8
>> >@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, stephenb91@hotmail.com says...
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> You are quite correct, and now I still can't think what the exact word I
> was thinking of is?

Prescribed.

You're welcome.

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Elder - 18 May 2008 19:46 GMT
> Prescribed.
>
> You're welcome.

That works but I'm not sure it was the exact word I wanted, even though
I can see why you would think so. I did think of that, but didn't think
it carried enough weight of compulsion in compliance.
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Mike Barnes - 18 May 2008 21:00 GMT
In uk.rec.driving, Elder wrote:
>> Prescribed.
>>
>> You're welcome.
>>
>That works but I'm not sure it was the exact word I wanted, even though
>I can see why you would think so.

It certainly makes more sense than "proscribed", which is the word you
actually did use (whether you meant to or not).

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Clive George - 17 May 2008 19:34 GMT
> I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
> applies.

There's streetlights, so it'll be 30mph by default.

cheers,
clive
Elder - 17 May 2008 20:46 GMT
> > I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
> > applies.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> cheers,
> clive

Which in that instance is the national speed limit.
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Clive George - 17 May 2008 23:18 GMT
>> > I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
>> > applies.
>>
>> There's streetlights, so it'll be 30mph by default.
>>
> Which in that instance is the national speed limit.

Did I say otherwise? :-)

cheers,
clive
Elder - 18 May 2008 12:14 GMT
> >> > I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
> >> > applies.
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> cheers,
> clive

I was hoping to test baggy but you gave him/her/it the answer.
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Clive George - 18 May 2008 13:50 GMT
>> >> > I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed
>> >> > limit
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>
> I was hoping to test baggy but you gave him/her/it the answer.

Sorry :-)
baggy1963 - 18 May 2008 14:41 GMT
The only differential speed limit I know is on the M60 at Junction 25.
The speed limit clockwise is 50 mph but NSL anti-clockwise.

Apparently the SPECs cameras have caught 48.000 in one lane alone!
Jethro - 17 May 2008 21:07 GMT
> In article <I-ydnaMoC8VHRrPVnZ2dnUVZ8vOdn...@bt.com>, brimstone520-ng02
> @yahoo.co.uk says...
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> I believe until one of them is covered or removed, national speed limit
> applies.

ISTR the correct wording is "for that class of road". I never fail to
be amazed at people who think the NSL sign means 70 wherever they
are .....
Mark Hewitt - 20 May 2008 14:34 GMT
> ISTR the correct wording is "for that class of road". I never fail to
> be amazed at people who think the NSL sign means 70 wherever they
> are .....

Pendant mode:
It means "for that class of road and your class of vehicle".
Dervin - 22 May 2008 11:15 GMT
> ISTR the correct wording is "for that class of road". I never fail to
> be amazed at people who think the NSL sign means 70 wherever they
> are .....

Most people I've asked think national speed limit is 60. That is, it is
always 60 regardless of the type of road and vehicle.
Steve Firth - 22 May 2008 11:23 GMT
> Most people I've asked think national speed limit is 60. That is, it is
> always 60 regardless of the type of road and vehicle.

Most people I've observed thin the NSL is 50.
Joe Brown - 22 May 2008 16:05 GMT
%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in news:1ihca9o.1q7zo0m10dmef7N%%
steve%@malloc.co.uk:

>> Most people I've asked think national speed limit is 60. That is, it is
>> always 60 regardless of the type of road and vehicle.
>
> Most people I've observed thin the NSL is 50.

U should live in 'deep' wales.

The nsl is 20 on corners and 35 on the straights  !!!!!!!!!

Joe
Steve Firth - 22 May 2008 17:08 GMT
> U should live in 'deep' wales.

I really shouldn't since I've experienced the muppet levels of driving
in Wales in the Black Hills and also on numerous roads between the North
West and Midlands and North Wales. Even in towns there's a different
approach to driving with cars commonly double and triple parked or
simply abandoned in the middle of the road, engine running, while
someone wanders into the post office to pick up the pension and have a
chat.
 
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