 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Driving (UK group) / July 2009DVLA stupidity
I bought a 2nd hand car and tried to tax it. Simple enough? No, I need insurance first. Ok, so I phone up and get insurance. Even though there's a national database of insurance now, apparently the post office still need an actual cover note. So I asked the insurance company how long it would take to get to me. 3 working days. Not good enough I said, so he emailed me a copy. I took that to the post office and he said "you printed this yourself didn't you?". I told him I did and if he wanted to phone Endsleigh he could check it was valid. He produced a HUGE book of regulations he said he had to follow as the DVLA are always rapping his knuckles for pedantic things. After 5 or 10 minutes he got more and more confused, then found a bit that said "at the postmaster's discretion". As he knew me he decided to give me the tax disk anyway. But as soon as he scanned the V5 green slip, the computer refused to cooperate. Apparently the last owner is disabled and didn't pay tax. What the hell has this to do with the car? The car hasn't been modified in any way! It's the DRIVER that was disabled. So now apparently I have to go to the "local" (40 miles away) DVLA office. I'll be informing them that they're discriminating against disabled people, as if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't have bought the car off him, thus making it more difficult for disabled people to sell cars. Maybe I should stick this in the local paper or something.  SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Hey, if the bomb dropped tomorrow, anyone not wearing factor 5,000 is going to have a really shitty day. > I bought a 2nd hand car and tried to tax it. Simple enough? No, I need insurance first. Ok, so I phone up and get insurance. Even though there's a national database of insurance now, apparently the post office still need an actual cover note. So I asked the insurance company how long it would take to get to me. 3 working days. Not good enough I said, so he emailed me a copy. I took that to the post office and he said "you printed this yourself didn't you?". I told him I did and if he wanted to phone Endsleigh he could check it was valid. He produced a HUGE book of regulations he said he had to follow as the DVLA are always rapping his knuckles for pedantic things. After 5 or 10 minutes he got more and more confused, then found a bit that said "at the postmaster's discretion". As he knew me he decided to give me the tax disk anyway. But as soon as he scanned the V5 green slip, the computer refused to cooperate. Apparently the last owner is disabled and didn't pay tax. What the hell has this to do with the car? The car hasn't been modified in any way! It's the DRIVER that was disabled. So now apparently I have to go to the "local" (40 miles away) DVLA office. I'll be informing them that they're discriminating against disabled people, as if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't have bought the car off him, thus making it more difficult for disabled people to sell cars. Maybe I should stick this in the local paper or something. > > -- Discimination gainst the non=handicapped, I'd say. Sue the DVLA >> I bought a 2nd hand car and tried to tax it. Simple enough? No, I >> need insurance first. Ok, so I phone up and get insurance. Even [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Discimination gainst the non=handicapped, I'd say. > Sue the DVLA When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA office can change a vehicle's taxation class. I thought anyone who has been driving for a while knew that. >>> I bought a 2nd hand car and tried to tax it. Simple enough? No, I >>> need insurance first. Ok, so I phone up and get insurance. Even [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > I thought anyone who has been driving for a while knew that. If you're disabled,yes, but I bet most able bodied folk wouldn't know that. > > When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the > > vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA office [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > If you're disabled,yes, but I bet most able bodied folk wouldn't know that. I've had to change the class of a vehicle from disabled to PLG when I've bought it. When you spend your time queuing, make sure you get all your forms filled in in the correct order, or you need to go back to the back of the very long queue again. You then change the class, change the keeper details, and buy the new disc at the same time. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >>> I bought a 2nd hand car and tried to tax it. Simple enough? No, I >>> need insurance first. Ok, so I phone up and get insurance. Even [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > I thought anyone who has been driving for a while knew that. But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't have to pay tax. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A wife is having sex with her husband's best friend one day. Soon the phone rings, so she answers it. "Yes, uh, ok, yes, ok, well, bye." Her husband's best friend says, "Who was it?" "That was my husband," she replied. The man jumped out of bed, and tried to put on his clothes in a hurry. "Relax," said the wife. "He just called to tell me he was out playing golf with you" > But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't have to pay tax. Because the taxation class changes, and as every road vehicle needs to display a disc, the status needs changing to disabled to get the free disc, like it does for historic vehicle class. I appreciate it differs in it is the driver not the vehicle that changes, but it is the vehicle status that needs to be reflected to get the right disc. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't have to pay tax. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > changes, but it is the vehicle status that needs to be reflected to get > the right disc. Why can't the disk be the same, but the driver gets it for free, or the government pays for it on their behalf? It is illogical to label the car as disabled instead of the person. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com "My god! What happened to you?" the bartender asked Kelly as he hobbled in on a crutch, one arm in a cast. "I got in a tiff with Riley." "Riley? He's just a wee fellow," the barkeep said, surprised. "He must have had something in his hand." "That he did," Kelly said. "A shovel it was." "Dear Lord. Didn't you have anything in your hand?" "Aye, that I did -- Mrs. Riley's tit." Kelly said. "And a beautiful thing it was, but not much use in a fight." >>> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't have to pay tax. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Why can't the disk be the same, but the driver gets it for free, or the government pays for it on their behalf? It is illogical to label the car as disabled instead of the person. Either way, I'm glad this came up - in future if I come across a car with a "disabled" taxation class I just won't buy it. There's too many hoops to jump through nowadays, better to avoid them when possible. >>>> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a >>>> disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > many hoops to jump through nowadays, better to avoid them when > possible. In which case you're possibly losing out on a very good car as many disabled drivers do only low mileages. There is no additional hoop to jump through except that you have to notify the change of ownership and get the new tax disc at the local DVLA office, not the PO. >>>>> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a >>>>> disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > except that you have to notify the change of ownership and get the new tax > disc at the local DVLA office, not the PO. Which is fine if you live near a DVLA office. And if you don't want to use the car immediately. I could have had it legal on the day I bought it, but because of this nonsense I can't. There is absolutely no reason for them to attach the disabled label to the vehicle. It's the OWNER that was disabled. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Three women are having lunch, discussing their husbands. The first says, "My husband is cheating on me, I just know it. I found a pair of stockings in his jacket pocket, and they weren't mine!" The second says, "My husband is cheating on me, I just know it. I found a condom in his wallet, so I poked it full of holes with my sewing needle!" The third woman fainted. > There is absolutely no reason for them to attach the disabled label to the vehicle. It's the OWNER that was disabled. But it is the vehicle that is taxed, freely or otherwise. What next, no tax class for HGV because it is the driver that is qualified to drive it not the vehicle that is in a certain class? The tax classes for disabled came about intitially from the invalid carriages then later for motability cars. A wandering plod needs to see a disc to see it is legally taxed. He needs to see a reg number and class. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >> There is absolutely no reason for them to attach the disabled label to the vehicle. It's the OWNER that was disabled. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a disc to see it is legally taxed. He needs to see a reg number and > class. The class of tax depends on what the vehicle is. A car with a large engine will have a higher class. An HGV will have a much higher class. The class of this car should be identical to any other car of that model. But the disabled owner should have just received the tax disk for free. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com In light of the Madrid bombing, France has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." The only two higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." > A car with a large engine will have a higher class. Incorrect. All cars are the same class. Some may be in different bands. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >> A car with a large engine will have a higher class. >> > Incorrect. All cars are the same class. > Some may be in different bands. Pedant, you knew what I meant. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Watching your daughter being collected by her date feels like handing over a million dollar Stradivarius to a gorilla. > >> There is absolutely no reason for them to attach the disabled label to the vehicle. It's the OWNER that was disabled. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > In light of the Madrid bombing, France has raised its terror alert level from "run" to "hide." > The only two higher levels in France are "surrender" and "collaborate." I agree with you but we are dealing with beurocracy here, so you need to expect that nothing will work the wayit logically should for the rest of us. Nkosi > >>>> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a > >>>> disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > In which case you're possibly losing out on a very good car as many disabled > drivers do only low mileages. Can be a really bad thing. >There is no additional hoop to jump through > except that you have to notify the change of ownership and get the new tax > disc at the local DVLA office, not the PO. I just made the selling dealer do it, otherwise no sale. In fact they offered anyway, so it was no hassle at all for me. MBQ >> >>>> But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a >> >>>> disabled person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Can be a really bad thing. For a battery and clutch perhaps. But the important thing, the engine, goes by miles surely? >>There is no additional hoop to jump through >> except that you have to notify the change of ownership and get the new tax >> disc at the local DVLA office, not the PO. > > I just made the selling dealer do it, otherwise no sale. In fact they > offered anyway, so it was no hassle at all for me. I stopped reading that at "dealer". I don't buy from dealers. I don't wish to pay hundreds of pounds extra to feed their profits. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A Pakistani arrives in London City all excited. He stops the first person he meets. "Good day, Mr. British, thank you to accept me in Your nice country", but the person interrupts and says: "I am not British, I'm Chinese." The Pakistani continues on his way and meets another passer-by. "Thank you Mr. British for to let my family and me stay here... " Again, he's interrupted before finishing his sentence. "I no be British, I be Turk!" He goes a little farther and meets another person and greets him "thank you for letting me come to your beautiful country." ... "I'm not British, I'm Kosavon." "But," answers the Pakistani distressed, "where are the British??" The Kosavon looks at his watch and says ..... "Probably at work." > >> In which case you're possibly losing out on a very good car as many disabled > >> drivers do only low mileages. > > > Can be a really bad thing. > > For a battery and clutch perhaps. But the important thing, the engine, goes by miles surely? Does it? Low mileage can imply lots of short runs from cold which can affect all sorts of things. > > I just made the selling dealer do it, otherwise no sale. In fact they > > offered anyway, so it was no hassle at all for me. > > I stopped reading that at "dealer". I don't buy from dealers. I don't wish to pay hundreds of pounds extra to feed their profits. Nor do I, and I don't. MBQ >> >> In which case you're possibly losing out on a very good car as many disabled >> >> drivers do only low mileages. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Does it? Low mileage can imply lots of short runs from cold which can > affect all sorts of things. Well I've always found high mileage engines don't start so good. Every time I've bought a low mileage car, it's lasted very well. >> > I just made the selling dealer do it, otherwise no sale. In fact they >> > offered anyway, so it was no hassle at all for me. >> >> I stopped reading that at "dealer". I don't buy from dealers. I don't wish to pay hundreds of pounds extra to feed their profits. > > Nor do I, and I don't. Oh, you meant private dealer. I don't usually refer to them as "dealers" - isn't a "dealer" someone who does it for a living? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Do infants have as much fun in their infancy as adults do in adultery? dealers. I don't wish to pay hundreds of pounds extra to feed their profits. > > Nor do I, and I don't. > > Oh, you meant private dealer. I don't usually refer to them as "dealers" - isn't a "dealer" someone who does it for a living? No I was referring to Dealers. I was referring to the fact that i don't pay hundreds of pounds extra just because it's a dealer, when the whole deal is taken into consideration. MBQ > dealers. I don't wish to pay hundreds of pounds extra to feed their > profits. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MBQ Then they aren't making a profit? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Take some good advice: Never try to baptize your cat. > Either way, I'm glad this came up - in future if I come across a car with a "disabled" taxation class I just won't buy it. There's too many > hoops to jump through nowadays, better to avoid them when possible. Jon, the only difference is, you need to fill a couple of forms in. If you can wait to get a disc, you fill in the change of class form, fill in a change of owner form, and fill in a tax application form. And send a cheque for the tax to Swansea. And wait for it to come back, new tax disc and new V5. If you need to use the car straight away you go to the "local" office with the same forms and fee, queue up with the traders, and all the cherished plate swappers, hand over the forms and get the class, and ownership sorted and get a fresh disc there and then, and wait for the V5 by post. Takes about an hour max queueing depending how busy it is. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 >> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the >> vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA office [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But WHY??? The vehicle is NOT disabled, or modified for use by a disabled > person. It just happens that the previous owner didn't have to pay tax. It is the motorist & car hating Labour government that you have to blame for all this. If you don't like it, stop voting for the Labour scum. Regards Mike. >>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the >>> vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA office [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > all this. If you don't like it, stop voting for the Labour scum. > Regards Mike. I voted BNP. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Instructions: It's got to be hot. You've got to take your time. You've got to stir - gently, and firmly. You've got to grind your beans until they squeak. And then you put in the milk. . . . How to make coffee - what were you thinking of? >>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > blame for all this. If you don't like it, stop voting for the Labour > scum. What makes you think it's down to Labour? >>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > What makes you think it's down to Labour? Agreed. Labour are just Tories renamed. Have you noticed any change since they got in? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Q. What's hairy on the outside, wet on the inside, begins with a "C" and ends with a "T"? A. A coconut. >>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Agreed. Labour are just Tories renamed. Have you noticed any change since they got in? The country appears to have gone to sh.t and we've got ourselves over obsessed with green issues to save the planet whilst at the same time invading other countries for their oil and not really appearing to give a hoot about the casualties. Things have definitely changed. >>>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > invading other countries for their oil and not really appearing to > give a hoot about the casualties. Things have definitely changed. Yes, let's have a complete change, UKIP would shake things up a bit and maybe wake up the main partys to listen to the people more. >>>>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying >>>>>>> VED the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Yes, let's have a complete change, UKIP would shake things up a bit > and maybe wake up the main partys to listen to the people more. In your dreams. >>>>>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying >>>>>>>> VED the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > In your dreams. Pipedream?... yes, but do you get my drift? >>>>>>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying >>>>>>>>> VED the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > Pipedream?... yes, but do you get my drift? I do, it's just a shame that people who blame "the government" don't understand that the government isn't in control. >>>>>>> What makes you think it's down to Labour? >>>>>> Agreed. Labour are just Tories renamed. Have you noticed any [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I do, it's just a shame that people who blame "the government" don't > understand that the government isn't in control. Then who is? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The chance of a piece of bread falling down on its buttered side is directly proportional to the cost of the carpet. >>>>>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>>>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Yes, let's have a complete change, UKIP would shake things up a bit and > maybe wake up the main partys to listen to the people more. UKIP are just a mild BNP. Vote for the real one. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Why is Bin Laden like a pair of tights? Because he irritates bush! > When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the > vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA office > can change a vehicle's taxation class. > > I thought anyone who has been driving for a while knew that. Why should I know that? Not knowing any disabled drivers and only infrequently buying cars from able-bodies people, is there any reason I should even be aware of taxation classes, and even less how to change it? > > When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED the > > vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a DVLA > > office can change a vehicle's taxation class. > > > > I thought anyone who has been driving for a while knew that. > Why should I know that? Not knowing any disabled drivers and only > infrequently buying cars from able-bodies people, is there any reason I > should even be aware of taxation classes, and even less how to change > it? Well at one time you had to tick a box on the VED application form for the class of vehicle. Signature*I'm not a complete idiot, some parts are missing * Dave Plowman dave@davesound.co.uk London SW 12 >> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I should even be aware of taxation classes, and even less how to > change it? When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which taxation class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? >>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which taxation > class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? Having driven company cars (when in this country) since 1990 till very recently, the answer is I haven't renewed tax on a car for so long, I have no idea what the procedure is. >>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > recently, the answer is I haven't renewed tax on a car for so long, I > have no idea what the procedure is. OK > >> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED > >> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which taxation > class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? No. There is no section 2, nor even a section 1 for that matter. The only boxes to be filled in are to indicate 6 or 12 months , SORN or to indicate you do not need a Goods Vehicle Test Certificate. The "Tax class" entry is pre-printed alomg with the other details of the vehicle. MBQ >>>> When registered to a disabled person who is expemt from paying VED >>>> the vehicle's taxation class changes from PLG to Disabled. Only a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > The "Tax class" entry is pre-printed alomg with the other details of > the vehicle. http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v10.pdf shows otherwise || Man at B&Q wrote: ||| On Jun 14, 1:47 pm, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] ||| || http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v10.pdf shows otherwise That's a standard blank V10, which is *not* the form you get sent every year to retax your vehicle. SignatureRob >>> Man at B&Q wrote: >>>> On Jun 14, 1:47 pm, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > That's a standard blank V10, which is *not* the form you get sent > every year to retax your vehicle. No one said it was, it's the form one uses to retax a vehicle if one doesn't have the pre-printed abbreviated form sent by DVLA which IIRC, has the class already on it. || Rob wrote: ||| Brimstone wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] || doesn't have the pre-printed abbreviated form sent by DVLA which || IIRC, has the class already on it. But your question related to the form used every year, which isn't that one. SignatureRob >>> Rob wrote: >>>> Brimstone wrote: [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > But your question related to the form used every year, which isn't > that one. As ever, that depends. The person to whom I put the question has already answered. > >> When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which > >> taxation class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/forms/v10.pdfshows otherwise No it doesn't. MBQ >>>> When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which >>>> taxation class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > No it doesn't. If you want to argue about it you're welcome, but I'm not joining in. > >>>> When retaxing your vehicle every year do you not indicate which > >>>> taxation class the vehicle is in in section 2 of the form? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > If you want to argue about it you're welcome, but I'm not joining in. So why start in the first place? as > if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't > have bought the car off him, thus making it more difficult for disabled > people to sell cars. Maybe I should stick this in the local paper or > something. pain in the arse Peter, but it's a change of classification from Invalid vehicle to PLG. Still, I don't know why it can't be changed simply like other changes. > as >> if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Still, I don't know why it can't be changed simply like other changes. It does seem a bit stupid. What's to stop a non-disabled family member from using the "disabled" car, for example? It's all a nonsense and is rooted more in politically correct gimmicks by successive governments than anything else. It's the same with having free tolls on the Severn Bridge for Blue-badge holders. If the government believe that disabled people are disadvantaged finacially, then it would make more sense to address it through the benifits system. >> as >>> if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > people are disadvantaged finacially, then it would make more sense to > address it through the benifits system. The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know another two people who do the same. If it were up to me there would be NO tax on cars. You are taxed through the fuel it uses anyway. This is fairer, as the more fuel it burns and the more often you use the car, the more tax you pay. The tax on the car itself is chicken feed compared to the amount you pay through fuel duty, so is completely pointless. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Five out of four Americans have trouble with fractions. > If it were up to me there would be NO tax on cars. You are taxed through the fuel it uses anyway. This is fairer, as the more fuel it burns and the more often you use the car, the more tax you pay. The tax on the car itself is chicken feed compared to the amount you pay through fuel duty, so is completely pointless. I can't agree there. It may be for selfish reasons but, as I do high mileage, I'd be worse off. At lease the car tax system helps to discourage multiple car ownership and is a good way of showing a car's general legality. >> If it were up to me there would be NO tax on cars. You are taxed through the fuel it uses anyway. This is fairer, as the more fuel it burns and the more often you use the car, the more tax you pay. The tax on the car itself is chicken feed compared to the amount you pay through fuel duty, so is completely pointless. > > I can't agree there. It may be for selfish reasons but, as I do high > mileage, I'd be worse off. At lease the car tax system helps to > discourage multiple car ownership and is a good way of showing a car's > general legality. What on earth is wrong with multiple car ownership? It's the amount of driving you do, taking up space on the road, using fuel, polluting the air, etc. I actually own 2 cars, as when one breaks down or is getting an MOT or service, I need something to drive to work. Public transport is no good here. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The teacher in Johnny's school asked the class what their parents did for a living. One little girl said her father was a doctor, another said her mother was an engineer. When it was Little Johnny's turn, he stood up and said "My mom's a whore." Naturally, after that remark, he got sent off to the principal's office. Then, 15 minutes later, he returned. So the teacher asked "Did you tell the principal what you said in class?" Johnny said "Yes" "Well, what did the principal say?" "He said that every job is important in our economy, gave me an apple and asked for my phone number." >>> If it were up to me there would be NO tax on cars. You are taxed through the fuel it uses anyway. This is fairer, as the more fuel it burns and the more often you use the car, the more tax you pay. The tax on the car itself is chicken feed compared to the amount you pay through fuel duty, so is completely pointless. >> I can't agree there. It may be for selfish reasons but, as I do high [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What on earth is wrong with multiple car ownership? Everything when the majority can't park outside their own house because one selfish c.nt feels the need to have several cars. It's the amount of driving you do, taking up space on the road, using fuel, polluting the air, etc. If you have more than one car, you take up more room and almost certainly drive more in general. > I actually own 2 cars, as when one breaks down or is getting an MOT or service, I need something to drive to work. If you only had one car, you'd have to take the day off. >>>> If it were up to me there would be NO tax on cars. You are taxed through the fuel it uses anyway. This is fairer, as the more fuel it burns and the more often you use the car, the more tax you pay. The tax on the car itself is chicken feed compared to the amount you pay through fuel duty, so is completely pointless. >>> I can't agree there. It may be for selfish reasons but, as I do high [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Everything when the majority can't park outside their own house because > one selfish c.nt feels the need to have several cars. Which is why I had the sense to buy a house with a driveway. I can get one in the garage (or I could if I didn't have it full of stuff), and 5 in the driveway. And before you ask, it's only a £75,000 house. >> It's the amount of driving you do, taking up space on the road, using > fuel, polluting the air, etc. > > If you have more than one car, you take up more room Nonsense. I only drive one at a time, so take up the same amount of room. > and almost certainly drive more in general. I'd only have one car if I didn't work. >> I actually own 2 cars, as when one breaks down or is getting an MOT or service, I need something to drive to work. > > If you only had one car, you'd have to take the day off. Very inconvenient. Why should my work suffer because of a car problem? I value my job. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Tell a man that there are 400 billion stars and he'll believe you. Tell him a bench has wet paint and he has to touch it. > The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know > another two people who do the same. That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he carrying or collecting the disabled person. > > The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know > > another two people who do the same. > That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he carrying or > collecting the disabled person. Does that mean if he takes a disabled person to visit someone he has to stay or leave the car there? Signature*Learn from your parents' mistakes - use birth control. Dave Plowman dave@davesound.co.uk London SW 12 >>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Does that mean if he takes a disabled person to visit someone he has > to stay or leave the car there? The actual intent is that the driver (if not the disabled persin in question) must be using the vehicle for the disabled person's benefit but isn't allowed to use the Blue Badge. On Jun 15, 10:01 am, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > In article <Xns9C2BAFE21122...@216.196.109.131>, > >>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > question) must be using the vehicle for the disabled person's benefit but > isn't allowed to use the Blue Badge. Not quite sure what you were saying there, but a blue badge can be used in any vehicle being used for the disabled person benefit. MBQ > On Jun 15, 10:01 am, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Not quite sure what you were saying there, but a blue badge can be > used in any vehicle being used for the disabled person benefit. Quite true, I was referring to the use of a vehicle classed as "disabled" by a person who is not disabled. | On Jun 15, 10:01 am, "Brimstone" <brimstone520-n...@yahoo.co.uk> | wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | Not quite sure what you were saying there, but a blue badge can be | used in any vehicle being used for the disabled person benefit. That's not the case. The rules for Blue Badge use and tax exempt vehicle use are different. SignatureRob >>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >question) must be using the vehicle for the disabled person's benefit but >isn't allowed to use the Blue Badge. Completely unprovable. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Any woman can have the body of a 21-year-old ... as long as she buys him a few drinks first. >>>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I >>>>> know another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Completely unprovable. It's easily provable. All they have to do is nick the driver and take his/her statement, then go find the disabled person and ask them for their version. If the two statements match, they can beat one with a rubber hose until they change their statement. >>>>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I >>>>>> know another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >statements match, they can beat one with a rubber hose until they change >their statement. Well obviously the two people agree to a story first. At least the people I know do. f.ck the taxman. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com So anyway this hillbilly took his girl up to lovers peak. They sat down on a log. After a bit Judi says to Jon, "Aren't the stars purty tonite?" Jon says "Sure is Judi". Judi says "Jon, aren't the moon purty tonite". Jon says "Sure is Judi". After a bit Judi says, "Jon, whisper something soft and mushy in my ear". So Jon leans over and whispers "Ahhh, sh.t". >>>>Dave Plowman wrote: >>>>> In article <Xns9C2BAFE21122Doc@216.196.109.131>, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Well obviously the two people agree to a story first. At least the > people I know do. That's where the rubber hoses come in. > f.ck the taxman. My taxman is a very pretty long haired and well endowed yong lady with a penchant for short skirted suits. I bet yours is a hairy arsed fat bloke with a prickly moustache. >>>>>>> That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he >>>>>>> carrying or collecting the disabled person. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > a penchant for short skirted suits. I bet yours is a hairy arsed fat > bloke with a prickly moustache. I don't think having your taxman would make me feel any better about the money she stole from me. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A patient tells the Doctor, "I've been going to a faith healer, but wasn't getting any better." The Doctor smiled and said, "And what dumb advice did this phony give you ?" "He told me to come see you." replied the new patient. >>>>>>>> That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he >>>>>>>> carrying or collecting the disabled person. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I don't think having your taxman would make me feel any better about > the money she stole from me. My accountant is also a sliky dinky >>>>>>>The actual intent is that the driver (if not the disabled persin >>>>>>>in question) must be using the vehicle for the disabled person's [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > My accountant is also a sliky dinky I'll tell the wife.... SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What is the difference between a female jogger and a sewing machine? A sewing machine only has one bobbin. >>>>>>>>The actual intent is that the driver (if not the disabled persin >>>>>>>>in question) must be using the vehicle for the disabled person's [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I'll tell the wife.... She's in Cyprus. She wagged her finger at me 'cos I fell asleep when we were in video chat, and she isn't speaking to me at the moment. Maybe you'll have more luck Phone is 0035 79940 something something and it ends with a nine >>>>>>>It's easily provable. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Phone is 0035 79940 something something and it ends with a nine 100 numbers to try. I wonder how many people are in this group..... SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com China has outlawed sexual harassment. This will make work conditions much more bearable during those 16 hour days at the sweat shop. >>>>>>>>It's easily provable. >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > 100 numbers to try. I wonder how many people are in this group..... acksherly, you have a choice of 999 numbers >>>>>>> That's where the rubber hoses come in. >>>>>>> My taxman is a very pretty long haired and well endowed yong >>>>>>> lady with a penchant for short skirted suits. I bet yours is a [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > acksherly, you have a choice of 999 numbers Not my fault BT keep changing the numbering sequence. No forward planning whatsoever. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Confucius say: "Boy who go to sleep with stiff problem wake up with solution in hand." there is a lot of myth around the issue of exemptions. it is the car, by virtue of the tax disc which is 'exempt from paying' a licence fee. It is for use by OR for a disabled person, and stays with the vehicle. It is the regs. that apply to this that dictate the use. the driver can take the car without a disabled person aboard provided that the use is FOR that person, eg, library books, shopping, and is not for his/her own use, but it doe not have parking entitlements without the disabled person. The blue badge is issued to the person and can be moved from car to car >there is a lot of myth around the issue of exemptions. it is the car, by >virtue of the tax disc which is 'exempt from paying' a licence fee. It is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >have parking entitlements without the disabled person. The blue badge is >issued to the person and can be moved from car to car What a stupidly complicated farcicle bunch of unneccessary paperwork. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com At the end of a tiny deserted bar is a huge scouse bloke - 6ft 5in tall and 350lbs. He's having a few beers, when a short, well dressed and obviously gay man walks in and sits beside him. After 3 or 4 beers, the gay fella finally plucks up the courage to say something to the big Liverpudlian. Leaning over, he cups his huge ear. "Do you want a blow job?" he whispers. At this, the massive Merseysider leaps up with fire in his eyes and smacks the man in the face, knocking him off the stool, he proceeds to beat him all the way out of the bar. Finally he leaves him, badly bruised, in the car park and returns to his seat as if nothing had happened. Amazed the bartender quickly brings over another beer. "I've never seen you react like that" he says. "Just what did he say to you?" "I'm not sure" the big scouser replies." Something about a job." Doc Savage <xxxrabbis@cambs.edu> wrote in news:Xns9C2BAFE21122Doc@ 216.196.109.131: >> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >> another two people who do the same. > > That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he carrying or > collecting the disabled person. or is about the disabled person's business e.g, shopping, fetching a library book >> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >> another two people who do the same. > > That's legal, but the driver can't use the vehicle unless he carrying or > collecting the disabled person. But according to the DVLA, the CAR is classed as disabled (which is what's causing my problem in the first place), not the person! Just been to the DVLA "local" office 40 miles away. He wouldn't accept a printed off cover note form the insurance, he wants a real one Apparently the DVLA office itself cannot check the insurance database. I said how utterly ridiculous it was and he agreed! Apparently the Swansea Welsh c.nts won't let them have access to it. They don't trust their own sub-offices?!? I phoned the insurance company and asked if I could just come and collect a cover note, but apparently they have to be posted?!?! So I told her 5 working days was absurd (the guy I phoned on Friday to pay for the insurance said 5 working days to get it), and she said there's no such timescale, they're sent 1st class the day you phone up (which was Friday) and I should have got it by now, so she's sending another. She then tried to charge me £20 for an extra cover note at which point I let loose several obscenities, so she apologised and cancelled the £20. I feel a very long letter of complaint going somewhere..... newspapers? MP? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com After years of his wife's pleading, this rich good ole boy finally goes with her to her little local Church on Sunday morning. He was so moved by the preacher's sermon that on the way out he stopped to shake his hand. He said, "Reverend, that was the best damn sermon I ever did hear!" The Preacher replied, "Oh!! Why, thank you sir, but please, I'd appreciate it if you didn't use profanity in the Lord's house." The man said, "I'm sorry Reverend, but I can't help myself, it was such a damn good sermon!" The Reverend said, "Sir, PLEASE, I cannot have you behaving this way in Church!" The man said, "Okay Reverend, but I just wanted you to know that i thought it was so damn good, I put $5000 in that there collection plate." And the Reverend said, "NO sh.t?" >>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I feel a very long letter of complaint going somewhere..... newspapers? MP? Complaint sent to the DVLA main office as follows: I purchased this car privately on Thursday 11th June, intending to use it on holiday this weekend (leaving Thursday 18th June). The previous owner had a disability, so got a free tax disk. When I went to the post office to get a standard tax disk, I was told that post offices can't make this change. So I went to my "local" DVLA office 40 miles away, and was told that they cannot accept printed off insurance cover notes. I asked them to check the national insurance database, and was told they have no access to it (which is rather odd as the police can do it on the spot), and they refused to phone my insurance company to check the insurance (stating some excuse about "Insurance companies won't talk to us"). I am still waiting on a cover note to be posted so I can get the car taxed. Quite why I have to make any special changes to the car records because I'm not disabled and the previous owner is, is beyond me. The car has not been modified, it's a normal car. It's the OWNER that was disabled, and getting free tax disks. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. >>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I purchased this car privately on Thursday 11th June, intending to use it on holiday this weekend (leaving Thursday 18th June). The previous owner had a disability, so got a free tax disk. When I went to the post office to get a standard tax disk, I was told that post offices can't make this change. So I went to my "local" DVLA office 40 miles away, and was told that they cannot accept printed off insurance cover notes. I asked them to check the national insurance database, and was told they have no access to it (which is rather odd as the police can do it on the spot), and they refused to phone my insurance company to check the insurance (stating some excuse about "Insurance companies won't talk to us"). I am still waiting on a cover note to be posted so I can get the car taxed. Quite why I have to make any special changes to the car records because I'm not disabled and the previous owner is, is beyond me. The car has not been modified, it's a normal car. It's the OWNER that was disabled, and getting free tax disks. "Dear Mr Hucker Thank you for your email to the Customer Services Manager. We are sorry that you feel the need to make a complaint about the service we provide. DVLA will send a full reply within 10 working days. If it is going to take longer to provide you with a reply, we will let you know. Mr Matthew Partridge Customer Services Manager - Support Team" SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The husband finally wised up to the fact that his wife was less than faithful. He hired a private investigator to follow her and in less than a week, had all the information that he needed on the "other man". The husband convinced himself that his would still be a loving and trustworthy marriage had not this S.O.B. come onto the scene. Being a man of the 90's and all, he decided to handle the matter in what he judged to be sophisticated and business-like manner. He sent the following e-mail to his wife's lover: Sir, It has been brought to my attention that for some time now you have been carrying on an affair with my wife. So that we may settle this matter in an intelligent fashion, please be at my office at 3 PM on Friday next. The "other man" was highly amused by the husband's formal manner and sent the following reply: Dear Sir, I have received a copy of the your mass mailing this morning. You may be advised that I will attend the scheduled conference in your office's auditorium. >>>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>>>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mr Matthew Partridge > Customer Services Manager - Support Team" By way of background, it may help if I explain that Post Office® branches are responsible for processing only the most straightforward DVLA transactions. DVLA’s commercial contract with Post Office Ltd does not currently extend to more complex transactions such as a change of vehicle taxation class from “Disabled”. These transactions have historically been handled by DVLA Local Offices (LOs) because staff there have the necessary expertise and equipment necessary to deal with them. DVLA staff also have online access to the central vehicle register which allows them to check the current status of a vehicle and assists in any calculation of vehicle tax should a change of taxation class arise. It is, of course, recognised that some customers may have difficulty in getting to a LO in order to tax their vehicle. This is why LOs operate a postal application service. Applications received by post are normally turned around on the day of receipt, which means that those who use the service will receive their new tax disc within a few days if they use first class post. I should firstly explain that the Secretary of State is obliged by law to ensure that a valid certificate of insurance is submitted with an application for vehicle tax. When an Insurance Certificate can not be presented, your application will be rejected at the Post Office® and the DVLA Local Office. --------------------------- You state "DVLA staff also have online access to the central vehicle register which allows them to check the current status of a vehicle" - so why can't they simply check the insurance status without me having to wait for documents to be posted from my insurance company? The police can check insurance status, so surely the DVLA can? In fact your online tax application system does it itself in a few seconds, yet you're trying to tell me that a DVLA office cannot? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com You know you've spent too much time on the computer when you spill milk and the first thing you think is, 'Edit, Undo.' >>>>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>>>>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > You state "DVLA staff also have online access to the central vehicle register which allows them to check the current status of a vehicle" - so why can't they simply check the insurance status without me having to wait for documents to be posted from my insurance company? The police can check insurance status, so surely the DVLA can? In fact your online tax application system does it itself in a few seconds, yet you're trying to tell me that a DVLA office cannot? Hmmmm... "For us to deal with your enquiry correctly and fully we will need to pass your email to a specialist department for further investigation. DVLA will send a full reply within 10 working days. If it is going to take longer to provide you with a reply, we will let you know." SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com ___________ \ / )_______( |"""""""|_.-._,.---------.,_.-._ | | | | | | ''-. | |_| |_ _| |_..-' |_______| '-' `'---------'` '-' )"""""""( /_________\ `'-------'` .-------------. /_______________\ >>>>>>> The owner of the car wasn't disabled. His mother taxed it! I know >>>>>>> another two people who do the same. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > DVLA will send a full reply within 10 working days. If it is going to take longer to provide you with a reply, we will let you know." ARGH!!!!! Complete and utter disorganisation. "Thank you for your recent email The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency is responsible for the collection and enforcement of vehicle excise duty and the maintenance of an accurate register of motor vehicles. Our involvement in motor insurance is by way of a legal obligation to check for evidence of valid insurance cover at vehicle relicensing. DVLA and the Post Office® are unable to accept downloaded insurance certificates for licensing purposes. The requirement for vehicle keepers to produce a hard copy of the insurance certificate issued by the insurer is set out in The Road Traffic Act 1988 (“the Act”). Section 147 of the Act states that a policy of insurance shall be of no effect for the purposes of that part of the Act unless the insurer delivers to the policy holder, a certificate in the prescribed form and with the prescribed details. This certificate is taken as being typically issued by post. The Motor Insurers’ Database (MID) is operated by the Motor Insurers Information Centre. The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) has no control over the information contained on the database. A link has been set up between the MID and the DVLA to enable vehicle licensing by electronic means. Apart from that, we do not have access to the insurance database. Regards DVLA Enquiries" SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com When you're having a really bad day and it seems like people are trying to piss you off, remember it takes 42 muscles to frown and only 4 to extend your middle finger. good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like the rest of us do > good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like > the rest of us do My mate had his Merc estate nicked that he uses for work. His documents were in the glove box, the dozy twerp. SignatureHelp rid the world of MP3s that sound horrible! http://www.chrismyden.com/bestmp3guide.php >> good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >> the rest of us do > > My mate had his Merc estate nicked that he uses for work. His > documents were in the glove box, the dozy twerp. lol, did he leave the keys in the ignition as well? >good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >the rest of us do This is the age of computers, we shouldn't need documents. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines. >>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>the rest of us do > > This is the age of computers, we shouldn't need documents. They said that when the microfilm archive was invented. >>>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>>the rest of us do >> >> This is the age of computers, we shouldn't need documents. > > They said that when the microfilm archive was invented. This is what happens when you let the Welsh run the country. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A woman brought an old picture of her dead husband, wearing a hat, to the photographer. She wanted to know if the photographer could remove the hat from the picture. He convinced her he could easily do that, and asked her what side of his head her husband parted his hair on. "I forgot," she said. "But you can see that for yourself when you take off his hat." >>>>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>>>the rest of us do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > This is what happens when you let the Welsh run the country. I thought Brown and Cameron had Jock blood in them. >>>>>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>>>>the rest of us do [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I thought Brown and Cameron had Jock blood in them. The DVLA run the country, not the government. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What is the difference between a female jogger and a sewing machine? A sewing machine only has one bobbin. >>>>>>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>>>>>the rest of us do [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The DVLA run the country, not the government. You have a complex about authority. Try cycling 50 miles out and back. The DVLA can't stop you unless you're on a motorway. OH, and make sure you have lights on your bike in case you aren't home before dark or the coppers will catch you. >>>>>>>good, make sure you have the correct documents next time like >>>>>>>the rest of us do [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > You have a complex about authority. Only when they're wrong. > Try cycling 50 miles out and back. > The DVLA can't stop you unless you're on a motorway. OH, and make sure > you have lights on your bike in case you aren't home before dark or the > coppers will catch you. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A man is out on the golf course enjoying his day off. He takes a swing at the ball and he slices off the fareway and into the rough into a patch of buttercups. He walks over, eyes the ball, and pulls out his iron preparing to hit it out of the patch. Suddenly he stops in mid swing and thinks to himself "nah...I think ill spare all these nice looking buttercups" and he picks up his ball and throws it into the fareway so as not to damage the buttercups. In a mystic type aura on a magical breeze, Mother Nature wisks over. Surprised, the man says, "Who are you?" "I am Mother Nature" she replies. "and for saving my precious buttercups, I am granting you an unlimited supply of butter." The man huffs and retorts, "Oh, thats real cool...where were you yesterday when I hit it in the patch of pussy willows?" > But according to the DVLA, the CAR is classed as disabled (which is > what's causing my problem in the first place), not the person! Why did you buy a car that's been disabled anyway? Wouldn't it have been better to buy one which has been fixed, like next doors cat? >> But according to the DVLA, the CAR is classed as disabled (which is >> what's causing my problem in the first place), not the person! > > Why did you buy a car that's been disabled anyway? It's normally me that disables them. But I thought this would save me the trouble. > Wouldn't it have been better to buy one which has been fixed, like next > doors cat? And just how did you fix this cat..... SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com To err is human. To really f.ck things up requires a computer. >>> But according to the DVLA, the CAR is classed as disabled (which is >>> what's causing my problem in the first place), not the person! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And just how did you fix this cat..... Two bricks..... >>>> But according to the DVLA, the CAR is classed as disabled (which is >>>> what's causing my problem in the first place), not the person! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Two bricks..... Not original enough. You must try again, using more technology. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Rule 1: If it's working, don't f.ck about with it. Rule 2: If it's not working, don't f.ck it. > > Two bricks..... > > Not original enough. You must try again, using more technology. Two bricks with microprocessors, then. Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: >> > Two bricks..... >> >> Not original enough. You must try again, using more technology. > > Two bricks with microprocessors, then. That's far too James Bond for my liking. The cat would escape before the deed was done, just like Mr Bond. I like the KISS approach, like 2 bricks, or even the ever faithful Swiss Army knife or if we have to take a testic... technical approach, there's always Ye Olde nichrome cheesewire and a 12V SLA. I can always use the bricks to elevate the cat. It's hard work getting under there on a mechanics crawler. >Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and a 12V SLA. I can always use the bricks to elevate the cat. It's hard >work getting under there on a mechanics crawler. The cat must be elevated through magnetic induction. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? - Epicurus (341- 270 BC) >>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > The cat must be elevated through magnetic induction. Far too Jimmy Blond. Remember that cat carrier with the screw at one end? Gee, I almost added a binary to this crossposted ruggish. >>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Far too Jimmy Blond. Remember that cat carrier with the screw at one > end? Ouch! > Gee, I almost added a binary to this crossposted ruggish. Go ahead, you'll only start a few idiots moaning that they got a binary in their text group, then others will point out that their news server is rubbish for accepting it, and the sensible people'll ignore them. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What's the most sensitive part of your anatomy when you are masturbating? Your ears. >>>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > server is rubbish for accepting it, and the sensible people'll ignore > them. I'll post that pic of the parrot with the horrible lump stuck to its feet if you like. cat carrier pics at google images >>>>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > I'll post that pic of the parrot with the horrible lump stuck to its feet > if you like. Bitch. > cat carrier pics at google images Ouch! Well I suppose some cats are into that sorta thing. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com An English woman who has been blind for 26 years got her sight back after suffering a heart attack. Unfortunately, after she was able to see her doctors bill she had several more heart attacks. >>>>>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>>>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Bitch. {{Takes a bow and waves to audience}} >> cat carrier pics at google images > > Ouch! Well I suppose some cats are into that sorta thing. I could probably weld up a man sized version for you if I wasn't so busy doing nothing >>>>>>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>>>>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: >>>>>>>That's far too James Bond for my liking. The cat would escape >>>>>>>before the deed was done, just like Mr Bond. I like the KISS [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > I could probably weld up a man sized version for you if I wasn't so busy > doing nothing Try Ian Field. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The husband was furious when he found out the cheque account was empty. When he confronted his wife, she simply said, "It's my turn." "What do you mean, your turn?" yelled the husband. "In bed," she explained, "you've been making early withdrawals for years. Now it's my turn." >>>>>>>>Dave Moorman <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in news:nobody- >>>>>>>>D5C9C2.13220616062009@news.giganews.com: [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Try Ian Field. I'm not going to weld something that big! he said double indignantly. >>>>>>> Far too Jimmy Blond. Remember that cat carrier with the screw >>>>>>> at one end? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > I'm not going to weld something that big! he said double indignantly. It would be worth it to seee the look on his face. Make sure you put a heating element inside the shaft. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Bedlam broke out at the monthly meeting of the Westerville Garden Club this month. The Master Gardener was asked if she truly believed that tender care could make a plant grow. In a totally serious tone she replied, "I certainly do. It's been my experience that anything organic can be greatly increased in size by affectionate handling." > as >> if I'd known he was disabled and I'd have this much trouble, I wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Still, I don't know why it can't be changed simply like other changes. The postmaster told me I could have done it the other way round, but not this way. So the DVLA let the postoffice put people onto the free one, but not start paying! That's completely illogical. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. It's because I hate plants. On Jun 15, 4:52 pm, "Rob" <rsvptorob-newsREM...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > | Not quite sure what you were saying there, but a blue badge can be > | used in any vehicle being used for the disabled person benefit. > > That's not the case. The rules for Blue Badge use and tax exempt vehicle use > are different. It is the case that "a blue badge can be used in any vehicle being used for the disabled person benefit". MBQ |
Reply to this Message |
 Sign In
 Join
 My Latest Posts My Monitored Threads My Blog My Photo Gallery My Profile My Homepage Start New Thread Enable EMail Alerts Rate this Thread
|
©2009 Advenet LLC Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.