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How to disable the safety lock on a VW Golf?
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Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 18:05 GMT Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it.
Mr Pounder - 27 Jul 2009 18:33 GMT > Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car > TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let > alone how to stop it. You would f.ck up a brand new cock.
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Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 19:47 GMT >> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car >> TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You would f.ck up a brand new cock. It's not broken, it's by design. Apparently.
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Chris Bartram - 27 Jul 2009 18:55 GMT > Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE > to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? Yes, it's called selective locking and can be configured with VAG-COM/VCDS, or a dealer VAS computer.
What year of Golf?
Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 19:47 GMT >> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE >> to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? > > Yes, it's called selective locking and can be configured with > VAG-COM/VCDS, or a dealer VAS computer. Not a standard OBD-II thingy?
> What year of Golf? 1998.
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Chris Bartram - 27 Jul 2009 22:36 GMT >>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE >>> to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? >> Yes, it's called selective locking and can be configured with >> VAG-COM/VCDS, or a dealer VAS computer. > > Not a standard OBD-II thingy? No, has to be VAS or VCDS.
>> What year of Golf? > > 1998. Guess it must be a higher trim level then, as this is usually a function of a convenience controller- lesser models don't have one.
Peter Hucker - 28 Jul 2009 14:16 GMT >>>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE >>>> to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Guess it must be a higher trim level then, as this is usually a function > of a convenience controller- lesser models don't have one. I think it's top of the range, it's got all sorts of fancy stuff on it.
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Hugo Nebula - 27 Jul 2009 20:13 GMT >Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - What's irritating is having a whole post on one line. Change your settings.
All VAGs have this as a very useful feature. It prevents someone jumping into the passenger seat or opening the boot whilst you get in.
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Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 20:19 GMT >>Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - > > What's irritating is having a whole post on one line. Change your > settings. Your system won't wrap to window? Even basic programs like Notepad can do this.
> All VAGs have this as a very useful feature. It prevents someone > jumping into the passenger seat or opening the boot whilst you get in. But I'm not concerned about this. I want the feature off, I didn't ask for it. It means I'm always having to go back and unlock the door again!
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Mortimer - 27 Jul 2009 20:29 GMT >> All VAGs have this as a very useful feature. It prevents someone >> jumping into the passenger seat or opening the boot whilst you get in. > > But I'm not concerned about this. I want the feature off, I didn't ask > for it. It means I'm always having to go back and unlock the door again! OK. So if you're unlocking the car just for yourself (the driver) you press the unlock button once. If you want to unlock the other doors and the boot, you press the unlock button twice in succession. I'd have thought you'd get used to that fairly quickly - it's only like getting used to pressing the lock button twice on most remote keys: once to lock the doors and again to deadlock them.
But if you prefer to have the central locking unlock all the doors and the boot, as it does for most other cars, then as other people have said it's something that the dealer can reprogram in a few minutes. It's a shame that it's not user-selectable in the trip computer menus.
Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 20:47 GMT >>> All VAGs have this as a very useful feature. It prevents someone >>> jumping into the passenger seat or opening the boot whilst you get in. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the unlock button once. If you want to unlock the other doors and the boot, > you press the unlock button twice in succession. There's something else compounding the problem. The remote is broken. Actually I think it's the receiver as I have two remotes, both with fresh batteries, and the LED flashed on the remote, and I don't know where the receiver is My Espace was obvious, an IR receiver next to the interior light, but an RF receiver is harder to see.
This means that when I want to put something in the boot, I walk to the drivers door, unlock it, walk to the boot, fail to open it, then walk back to the driver's door again, unlock it properly, then walk back to the boot.
> I'd have thought you'd get > used to that fairly quickly - it's only like getting used to pressing the > lock button twice on most remote keys: once to lock the doors and again to > deadlock them. I've never had to do that. The Golf for example deadlocks by default.
> But if you prefer to have the central locking unlock all the doors and the > boot, as it does for most other cars, then as other people have said it's > something that the dealer can reprogram in a few minutes. It's a shame that > it's not user-selectable in the trip computer menus. I ain't going to a main dealer, last time I used a main dealer, 2 minutes cost £35.
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Mortimer - 27 Jul 2009 21:03 GMT >> I'd have thought you'd get >> used to that fairly quickly - it's only like getting used to pressing the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I've never had to do that. The Golf for example deadlocks by default. Ah, does it? Right. My Peugeot, my girlfriend's Honda and my Dad's Citroen all have two-stage locking so you can lock the doors, either from the inside or the remote and still be able to unlock the doors from the inside.
>> But if you prefer to have the central locking unlock all the doors and >> the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I ain't going to a main dealer, last time I used a main dealer, 2 minutes > cost £35. That's exorbitant.
I wonder why the central locking behaviour has been made so you need special software to change it, whereas other things are user-configurable.
Chris Bartram - 27 Jul 2009 22:42 GMT > There's something else compounding the problem. The remote is broken. Actually I think it's the receiver as I have two remotes, both with fresh batteries, and the LED flashed on the remote, and I don't know where the receiver is My Espace was obvious, an IR receiver next to the interior light, but an RF receiver is harder to see. Have you tried the recode procedure in the handbook to resync the remotes?
>> But if you prefer to have the central locking unlock all the doors and the >> boot, as it does for most other cars, then as other people have said it's >> something that the dealer can reprogram in a few minutes. It's a shame that >> it's not user-selectable in the trip computer menus. Later cars have this facility, but only in the last few years.
> I ain't going to a main dealer, last time I used a main dealer, 2 minutes cost £35. Visit any of the VAG forums- seat-cupra, audi-sport, uk-mkivs, briskoda, and find the diagnostics forum, someone there will do it for beer money.
As your Golf is older, you won't need a fancy CAN cable.
Peter Hucker - 28 Jul 2009 14:18 GMT >> There's something else compounding the problem. The remote is broken. Actually I think it's the receiver as I have two remotes, both with fresh batteries, and the LED flashed on the remote, and I don't know where the receiver is My Espace was obvious, an IR receiver next to the interior light, but an RF receiver is harder to see. > > Have you tried the recode procedure in the handbook to resync the remotes? Didn't know there was one, I'll give it a go, thanks.
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Ed Chilada - 28 Jul 2009 00:20 GMT >>Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - > >What's irritating is having a whole post on one line. Change your >settings. Personally I prefer that, especially when I've got a widescreen monitor these days, I'd rather the text get wrapped to the reader's screen, not the resolution the writer happened to have.
Peter Hucker - 28 Jul 2009 14:25 GMT >>>Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > monitor these days, I'd rather the text get wrapped to the reader's > screen, not the resolution the writer happened to have. Well f.ck me. Someone who understands wrapping.
Hands up who's still got a monitor which can't display loads more than 80 columns?
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Dr Zoidberg - 27 Jul 2009 20:22 GMT > Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off . somehow?
You need someone with a laptop and VAG-COM who can do this for you. Cheapo cables can be had from ebay and you can download cracked software , or you could go to UK MkIVs and ask nicely on the forums. Someone would do it for beer money
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Peter Hucker - 27 Jul 2009 20:43 GMT >> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off . > somehow? > > You need someone with a laptop and VAG-COM who can do this for you. > Cheapo cables can be had from ebay and you can download cracked software , or you could go to UK MkIVs and ask nicely on the forums. > Someone would do it for beer money Hmmmm.... this sounds more effort than I previously thought.
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Tony Dragon - 27 Jul 2009 21:35 GMT > Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. It's the same on Vauxhalls.
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Peter Hucker - 28 Jul 2009 14:14 GMT >> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. > > It's the same on Vauxhalls. They must assume we all live in Northern Ireland.
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Bod - 28 Jul 2009 14:23 GMT >>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. >> It's the same on Vauxhalls. > > They must assume we all live in Northern Ireland. I have a Vauxhall,how hard is it to just press the remote twice?
Bod
Derek Geldard - 28 Jul 2009 14:58 GMT >>>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. >>> It's the same on Vauxhalls. >> >> They must assume we all live in Northern Ireland. >> >I have a Vauxhall,how hard is it to just press the remote twice? It's easy.
But it's not the issue.
It's a bugger if you've forgot and you are picking someone up carrying a box at the kerbside, in traffic, in the pissing rain.
IIRC you have to stop the engine, unlock the boot ( twice) and restart the engine.
Even then the bloody door still won't open if an impatient passenger has been swinging on the door handle during above performance.
Derek
Peter Hucker - 28 Jul 2009 15:00 GMT >>>>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. >>>> It's the same on Vauxhalls. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Derek Agreed, except the Golf isn't quite that bad. You don't have to stop the engine. And if the key is in the ignition so you can't use it in the door, there's a button on the drivers doorhandle.
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Bod - 28 Jul 2009 15:19 GMT >>>>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. >>>> It's the same on Vauxhalls. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Derek I don't need to stop the engine,there is a boot release button on the drivers and passenger doors(one press).
Steve Firth - 28 Jul 2009 16:43 GMT > Even then the bloody door still won't open if an impatient passenger > has been swinging on the door handle during above performance. Ford does the same. Press the "unlock" button on the dash (or the door handle in my case) and the doors unlock. Heck, that was difficult.
If it's really that irritating RTFM, because in mine it explains how to set the default behaviour to different values, i.e. one click unlocks all door, or two clicks needed to unlock passenger doors and also to enable/disable anti-hijack where the doors lock automatically when you touch the throttle.
And there's no need to stop the engine even if you want to use the buttons on the key or fob, simply click the button while the key is in the ignition it still works. Also the boot button works while the key is in the lock, in the hand and if you hold the key to your forehead even if you about 400 yards from the car.
People who can't cope with a simple electronic key shouldn't be allowed to own a car, it's obviously far too complicated for the poor little dears.
Bod - 28 Jul 2009 17:10 GMT >> Even then the bloody door still won't open if an impatient passenger >> has been swinging on the door handle during above performance. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > to own a car, it's obviously far too complicated for the poor little > dears. The OP (Peter Hucker) has a degree in electronics BTW.
Bod
Chris Bartram - 28 Jul 2009 20:03 GMT >>>>> Anybody come across a Golf (or other VW?) where you have to unlock the car TWICE to open anything but the driver's door? This is very irritating - can it be switched off somehow? I know there's a combination of odd things you can do to reset the oil/filter change warning after you've changed the oil and filter, so maybe something like that for the locks? I looked in the manual and on the whole page describing in great detail how to lock and unlock the car, it doesn't even mention this "feature" let alone how to stop it. >>>> It's the same on Vauxhalls. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Derek VAG cars usually have an unlock button in the drivers reach that works without stopping the engine, or the door will open from the internal handle.
Steve Firth - 28 Jul 2009 16:43 GMT > I have a Vauxhall, Quelle surprise.
Mr Benn - 29 Jul 2009 10:30 GMT >> I have a Vauxhall, > > Quelle surprise. I think it may be a Chavalier. Actually, Vauxhalls are ok cars having owned 3 in the past. Cheap and reliable in my experience.
Bod - 29 Jul 2009 10:36 GMT >>> I have a Vauxhall, >> Quelle surprise. > > I think it may be a Chavalier. Actually, Vauxhalls are ok cars having owned > 3 in the past. Cheap and reliable in my experience. Vectra 2.2 Design.
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Mr Benn - 29 Jul 2009 10:42 GMT >>>> I have a Vauxhall, >>> Quelle surprise. >> >> I think it may be a Chavalier. Actually, Vauxhalls are ok cars having >> owned 3 in the past. Cheap and reliable in my experience. > Vectra 2.2 Design. Vectra, son of Chavalier.
"Design" ? What does that mean?
Bod - 29 Jul 2009 10:48 GMT >>>>> I have a Vauxhall, >>>> Quelle surprise. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > "Design" ? What does that mean? Top of the range,ie: bells and whistles.
Bod
Steve Firth - 29 Jul 2009 10:58 GMT > "Design" ? What does that mean? "Cheap".
Bod - 29 Jul 2009 11:00 GMT >> "Design" ? What does that mean? > > "Cheap". Yup,only 18K.
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Steve Firth - 29 Jul 2009 10:58 GMT > Vauxhalls are ok cars having owned > 3 in the past. Cheap and reliable in my experience. IF those are the only two criteria by which you judge cars then why not a Hyundai? Everything else is wrong with the majority of Vauxhalls on sale. The Vectra in particular is a heap of evil-handling crap. And those interiors <retch>.
Mr Benn - 29 Jul 2009 11:27 GMT >> Vauxhalls are ok cars having owned >> 3 in the past. Cheap and reliable in my experience. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sale. The Vectra in particular is a heap of evil-handling crap. And > those interiors <retch>. The Astra MkII I had was ok but the chassis wasn't really up to rally driving! The Mark III Astra was something else though with a Lotus-designed chassis and a fantasic petrol turbo engine.
I've gone German now though. I was getting too much stick for owning a Vauxhall.
Steve Firth - 29 Jul 2009 14:19 GMT > I've gone German now though. I was getting too much stick for owning a > Vauxhall. Errm, the Astra is, indeed the majority of Vauxhalls are, German - Opel.
Mr Benn - 29 Jul 2009 14:33 GMT >> I've gone German now though. I was getting too much stick for owning a >> Vauxhall. > > Errm, the Astra is, indeed the majority of Vauxhalls are, German - > Opel. Well, just goes to show you why they're such good cars! Not that being German-manufactured guarantees anything.
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