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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Driving (UK group) / July 2009Fine or otherwise for double yellow line parking?
What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London.  SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A penny saved is a government oversight. Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they included the following statement in their reply: "DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space." Does this apply absolutely everywhere, including housing areas? The area where I live has cars parked all over the junctions. Should I report every one of them? I could go and take some photos....... > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? > > I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Connecticut police are investigating a string of shootings where clues are reportedly contained in a rap CD. They are also questioning Eric Clapton about the shooting of a sheriff. > Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they > included the following statement in their reply: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > every one of them? I could go and > take some photos....... Idiots park right up to the corner, and opposite, the end of my road. This creates danger when somebody turns left off the main road, because the driver has to slow right down while turning. Drivers behind are not expecting this (why I don't know because they can see the parked cars), so many rear end collisions have occurred. Quite often there is a stalemate when two cars meet at the junction. One car turns in and meets another approaching from the other way. Car two then turns left to join the stalemate. Car two then has to reverse out onto the main road but can't, because the next twat on the main road hasn't left a gap! Horns etc then for the next 5 minutes! So rather than take a camera, take a knife for their tyres. SignatureMrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi >> Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they >> included the following statement in their reply: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > So rather than take a camera, take a knife for their tyres. I'm not concerned about the parking, I only mentioned it because of the council's reason for applying the double yellow lines. The cause of people parking on residential streets is twats who buy a small house and 5 cars. Spend the money on a decent house with a driveway!!! SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do. > Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they included the following statement in their reply: > "DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space." > Does this apply absolutely everywhere, including housing areas? Yes, especially at night, where a parked vehicle within that distance of a junction MUST show lights, even if in an area which is street-lit. D they teach learner-drivers *nothing* these days? > The area where I live has cars parked all over the junctions. Should I report every one of them? I could go and take some photos....... Why not? >> Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they included the following statement in their reply: >> "DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Why not? Because so many do it and nobody has ever reported one, I assumed that it must be legal. Don't I need a reason like "it's blocking access to my house"? I've offered to give the information to the woman who emailed me in reply to my complaint. Perhaps if they piss off every car owner in the street, we can start a war against the council..... SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A married man was visiting his "girlfriend" when she requested that he shave his beard. "Oh James, I like your beard, but I would really love to see your handsome face." James replied, "My wife loves this beard, I couldn't possibly do it, she would kill me!" "Oh please?" the girlfriend asked again, in a sexy little voice. "Oh really, I can't," he replies. "My wife loves this beard!!" The girlfriend asked once more, and he sighs and finally gives in. That night James crawls into bed with his wife while she was sleeping. The wife is awakened somewhat, feels his face and replies "Oh Michael, you shouldn't be here, my husband will be home soon!" >>> Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they included the following statement in their reply: >>> "DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space." [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Because so many do it and nobody has ever reported one, I assumed that it must be legal. It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. >>>> Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they included the following statement in their reply: >>>> "DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space." [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Some tourists in the Chicago Museum of Natural History are marveling at the dinosaur bones. One of them asks the guard, "Can you tell me how old the dinosaur bones are?" The guard replies, "They are 3 million, four years, and six months old." "That's an awfully exact number," says the tourist. "How do you know their age so precisely?" The guard answers, "Well, the dinosaur bones were three million years old when I started working here, and that was four and a half years ago." >> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. > > They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. No, unless you give them to Detective Sgt Hobson BA. They know that the otherwise law abiding (well, apart from speeding) citizens would hate them. >>> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. >> >> They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. > > No, unless you give them to Detective Sgt Hobson BA. They know that the > otherwise law abiding (well, apart from speeding) citizens would hate them. So the "don't park near a junction" rule is only used if you're acutally in the way? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com HELP WANTED: Baiters. Local fishing boats need 4 baiters to bate hooks for tourists. Must have strong hands and work hard. Good pay-$15 per hour, and benefits. After 6 weeks, 2 best baiters will be promoted to masterbaiters. Apply in person to Jon at the Gulf Marina. >>>> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. >>> They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. >> No, unless you give them to Detective Sgt Hobson BA. They know that the >> otherwise law abiding (well, apart from speeding) citizens would hate them. > > So the "don't park near a junction" rule is only used if you're acutally in the way? It is just a HC rule, not law. Only used if the parked vehicle contributes to an accident. >>>>> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. >>>> They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > It is just a HC rule, not law. Only used if the parked vehicle > contributes to an accident. Ahhhhh..... so if I feel the junction is not dangerous, then I should just park at it. But it's my risk if someone hits it. I wonder whether the insurance would blame me aswell, or just the police? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A city boy was visiting the country and wanted to go hunting. The farmer lent the boy his gun, telling him not to kill any farm animals. The city boy headed off and soon after saw a goat. He managed to creep into range and finally shot it. Not knowing anything about animals, the boy didn't know what he'd killed so he ran to the farmhouse and described his kill to the farmer. "It had two saggy tits, a beard, a hard head and it stunk like hell!" said the boy. "Oh, sh.t!" said the farmer. "You've shot the wife!" >>>>> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. >>>> They do not. So if I took photos of them all and gave them to the >>>> police, would they have to fine them all? Every single one? That >>>> would be a right laugh. Either the entire street would hate the >>>> police, or me, depending if they found out who did it. >>> No, unless you give them to Detective Sgt Hobson BA. They know that >>> the therwise law abiding (well, apart from speeding) citizens would >>> hate vthem. >> So the "don't park near a junction" rule is only used if you're >> acutally in the way? > It is just a HC rule, not law. Only used if the parked vehicle > contributes to an accident. A Q&D Google search produces: "Section 137 of the Highways Act 1980 (as amended by sections 38 and 46 of the Criminal Justice Act 1982 and the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984, Schedule 7) provides an offence of wilful obstruction of the highway. An offence is committed if a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway". Much turns on the meaning of both "unnecessary" and of "without lawful authority or excuse". Clearly, one cannot grant oneself such lawful authority. Similarly, "I have nowhere else to park" cannot make an obstruction "necessary". It's interesting that the offence cn be committed by anyone, not just a driver, and that the offence need not involve a motor-vehicle. >>> So the "don't park near a junction" rule is only used if you're >>> acutally in the way? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > highway. An offence is committed if a person, without lawful authority > or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway". But that offers no special case for "near a junction", so the HC rule is still just a HC rule. >>>> So the "don't park near a junction" rule is only used if you're >>>> acutally in the way? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > But that offers no special case for "near a junction", so the HC rule > is still just a HC rule. It doesn't need to. It applies anywhere. But as you know, there are separate and specific rules relating to junctions, whether or not there are yellow lines at the junction. >>>>>> It is legal. Provided you have lights on at night. > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > authority. Similarly, "I have nowhere else to park" cannot make an > obstruction "necessary". But what is "an obstruction"? At some junctions, parking near them would be so, at others not. > It's interesting that the offence cn be committed by anyone, not just a > driver, and that the offence need not involve a motor-vehicle. Well parking a bloody great skip on a main road is a nuisance. People seem to get away with it though. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A lion in London Zoo was lying in the sun licking its arse when a visitor turned to the keeper and said, "that's a docile old thing isn't it?" "No way," said the keeper, "its the most ferocious beast in the zoo. Why just an hour ago it dragged an Australian tourist into the cage and completely devoured him." "Hardly seems possible" said the astonished visitor, "but why is it lying there licking its arse?" "The poor thing is trying to get the taste out of its mouth." > A married man was visiting his "girlfriend" when she requested that he > shave his beard. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The wife is awakened somewhat, feels his face and replies "Oh Michael, you > shouldn't be here, my husband will be home soon!" Where do you get them from!(:-) Alan > Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they > included the following statement in their reply: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > where I live has cars parked all over the junctions. Should I report > every one of them? I could go and take some photos....... Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking within 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. >> Another question. After complaining to the council about the lines, they >> included the following statement in their reply: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking within > 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. If I point out all the cars in my street to the plod, do they have to prosecute? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com .--. |/`-\ __ _( '\' _.-' | __(, .' _.-' \/ %; /\.' / ;%, \/ '.__.-' '#; | / ;%, \ || '` \ || | )) | || |__||_ | '.__) '._) > Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking within > 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. What regulation allows a FPN to be issued without yellow lines? >> Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking >> within 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. > > What regulation allows a FPN to be issued without yellow lines? Does it have to be a regulation? >>> Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking >>> within 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. >> >> What regulation allows a FPN to be issued without yellow lines? > > Does it have to be a regulation? An Act would do, but I don't think the distinction is relevant. >>>> Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking >>>> within 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. >>> What regulation allows a FPN to be issued without yellow lines? >> Does it have to be a regulation? > An Act would do, but I don't think the distinction is relevant. As you know, I quoted a regulation that creates an offence of (any) unnecessary obstruction of the highway. Whether a FPN can be issued in respect of such an offence is unclear, but I don't think the distinction is relevant. >>>>> Yes, it applies to all junctions, even on housing estates. Parking >>>>> within 10m of any junction can lead to a FPN being issued. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > As you know, I quoted a regulation that creates an offence of (any) > unnecessary obstruction of the highway. You quoted an Act (or three). > Whether a FPN can be issued in respect of such an offence is unclear, It is quite clear, no FPN can be issued in respect to 'obstruction'. > but I don't think the distinction is relevant. > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Extermination. Harsh, but fair. >> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? > > Extermination. Harsh, but fair. If they draw lines on the road, they should make space where we CAN park. I don't pay car tax for no reason. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com President Bush is rehearsing his speech for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games. He begins with "Ooo! Ooo! Ooo! Ooo! Ooo!" Immediately his speech writer rushes over to the lectern and whispers in the President's ear: "Mr. President, those are the Olympic rings. Your speech is underneath." >>> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? >> >> Extermination. Harsh, but fair. > > If they draw lines on the road, they should make space where we CAN park. > I don't pay car tax for no reason. Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. SignatureMrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi > Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. This 'dangerous parking' sounds a bit like a 'dangerous road'. >> Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. > > This 'dangerous parking' sounds a bit like a 'dangerous road'. Explain. SignatureMrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi >>> Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. >> >> This 'dangerous parking' sounds a bit like a 'dangerous road'. > > Explain. They have a lot of dangerous parking in Baghdad. I've seen the damage on the telly. >>> Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. >> >> This 'dangerous parking' sounds a bit like a 'dangerous road'. > > Explain. Some people believe that only animate objects are dangerous, and that a narrow road which has poor visibility is not dangerous. By the same reasoning, a static object which makes a road narrower and reduces visibility is not dangerous, even if it is a parked car rather than a wall. >>>> Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > visibility is not dangerous, even if it is a parked car rather than a > wall. Right, so there is no such thing as a dangerous road! A road is just a road, sitting there minding its own business. Drivers using the road ignore clues to hazards and crash. However, a driver parking a vehicle within 32ft of a junction is behaving just as dangerously as pulling out of a junction without looking. If a vehicle has to slow when turning into a road, the danger from collision comes from the twat behind who isn't looking, is not anticipating and is not using the brain - the danger is not coming from the road. SignatureMrBitsy Rover 75 CDTi >>>>> Rent a garage or move - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Right, so there is no such thing as a dangerous road! Some people believe that. > A road is just a road, sitting there minding its own business. Drivers If a road is just a road it can not mind anything. > using the road ignore clues to hazards and crash. However, a driver > parking a vehicle within 32ft of a junction is behaving just as > dangerously as pulling out of a junction without looking. If a vehicle No. I just parked a vehicle in a marked parking bay on a classified road which ended exactly at the point that the kerb started to turn, with a radius / footway width of about 6 feet. This was clearly perfectly safe, or the markings would not be there. > has to slow when turning into a road, the danger from collision comes > from the twat behind who isn't looking, is not anticipating and is not > using the brain - the danger is not coming from the road. The same reasoning would mean that no danger is coming from a parked car, it is coming from the big twit who isn't looking etc. >>>> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rent a garage or move Rent a garage outside the post office? I have a driveway at home thanks very much. One which holds five cars (although I only have two). > - there is no excuse for dangerous parking. What's dangerous about it? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement. > The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a > replacement. Too true, it has happened to me many times!(:-( Alan >> The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a >> replacement. > > Too true, it has happened to me many times!(:-( It's gone one step further here. I've bought about 6 of some things, and they are all still missing. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com "Sir, your daughter says she loves me, she can't live without me, and wants to marry me." "And you're asking my permission to marry her?" "No, I'm asking you to make her leave me the hell alone!!" > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? Don't think so. The difference is that single yellows are part-time operation whereas double yellows are in force 24 hours a day. > I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. They are usually (not always) utilised in order to keep a free path available for moving traffic. Is that not necessary in your village? >> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? > > Don't think so. > > The difference is that single yellows are part-time operation whereas double > yellows are in force 24 hours a day. So I can park on them and only risk £30, no points or impounding? I thought it might be classed as the same as a speeding offence and incur 3 points. >> I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. > > They are usually (not always) utilised in order to keep a free path available > for moving traffic. > > Is that not necessary in your village? No, traffic was flowing smoothly without the lines. It wasn't a busy area, one car would pass every 2 minutes! SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Woman next door leaning over fence: "Morning Nancy, what are you doing there?" Little girl: "My goldfish died, so I'm burying him!" Woman next door: "You silly girl, that hole is far too big for a goldfish!" Little girl: "That's because he's inside your f.cking cat!!!" > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking > outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards > having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. ---- If it's anything like my village, then you can park on them with impunity. Double yellows, yellow zig-zags outside the school, and even the zig-zags adjacent to a new zebra crossing are all routinely ignored, and as far as I know, never punished. Have you put in a FOI request to the council to get their full reasoning for putting in the lines? >> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking >> outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > adjacent to a new zebra crossing are all routinely ignored, and as far as I > know, never punished. The next town to here gets you for leaving your car for 2 minutes in the wrong place. I got done unintentionally. There are actually 5 different zones on one road, too complicated for anyone to understand, especially when the only indication is a rusty old sign which nobody notices. What really pissed me off though was a member of the public chatting in a friendly manner to a f.cking traffic warden! > Have you put in a FOI request to the council to get their full reasoning for > putting in the lines? What's one of those? I just emailed their roads dept. who gave me the alledged reason: Dear Mr Hucker I write in connection with your recent email of 29th July 2009 regarding the double yellow lines on Main Street, Clackmannan. The waiting restrictions were installed after complaints were received about vehicles blocking the lowered kerb and parking opposite the junction at Castle Street meaning people in wheelchairs or people with walking difficulties couldn't cross the road at the lowered section. The reason for the waiting restrictions are as follows as per The OFFICIAL HIGHWAY CODE: Section 243 states DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space. where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles. The waiting restrictions are in place so that pedestrians with or without walking difficulties, wheelchair users, mobility scooters can access the lowered kerb area when crossing the road and so that vehicles turning out of Castle Street do not turn into the path of an on coming vehicle. They have been installed for safety reasons. Yours sincerely ********* Traffic Regulation Officer SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com A graduate student in speech therapy had two days to cure her patients of their stutters. She came to a therapy session in a revealing outfit and offered a blow job to anyone who could pronounce the name of the city in which they were born without stuttering. The first man stood up and said, "B-B-B-B-B-B- Boston." Dejected, he shook his head and sat back down. The next guy stood and said, "Ca-Ca-Ca-Ca-Ca-Ca-Cleveland." He slapped his thigh in frustration and sat back down. The third guy stood and without hesitation said, "Miami." The student fell to her knees and began performing oral sex on the man. After finishing, she looked up and said, "What do you have to say now?" He replied, "...B-B-B-B-B-Beach." > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? > > I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. What about somebody going to the doctors surgery by bus? SignatureTony Dragon >> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? >> >> I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village (not a busy city, no need for such nonsense). There weren't many places to park as it was, now they've made it even worse. What's more they're outside the doctor's surgery, so people having difficulty walking have to walk further to see their GP. I can only assume it's some nonsense to do with the buses - there's already a pavement which sticks halfway across the road, so when the bus stops nobody can get past until all the passengers have boarded. Buses need to stick to the main roads, not little side streets they can't fit down. Maybe we're moving towards having one of those stupid congestion zones like London. > > What about somebody going to the doctors surgery by bus? They block the whole bloody road for half an hour while they get off, as the council saw fit to do one of those stupid sticky out pavements where the bus stops, so nobody can get past. SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com What did the elephant say to the naked man? How do you pick up anything with that? >>> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > They block the whole bloody road for half an hour while they get off, as the council saw fit to do one of those stupid sticky out pavements where the bus stops, so nobody can get past. Know exactly what you mean, we had a bus stop near me that was on a traffic light t junction. There was a lay by for the bus going in one direction which had a separate light controlled exit, this was activated by the bus. It worked fine, the buses didn't get in the way of the cars, the cars didn't get in the way of the buses. Then Surrey Council got involved, away went the lay by to become a wider pavement, the TL were removed for the bus exit. Now when the bus stops, the ns lane of traffic has to wait or pull out to overtake (It's a 40mph DC), then the bus has to work out when its safe to pull out. Good idea SCC SignatureTony Dragon >>>> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? >>>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Good idea SCC Wider pavements - they do that here too. Even when the road is busy and the pavements are not! Even stupider - they've painted cycle lanes on a road which isn't wide enough for them. Hence the car lanes are now not wide enough for a Mini in some places. Most people are sensible enough to ignore the cycle lanes and drive as normal, but some won't put their left wheels in the cycle lane, and drive with their right wheels on the wrong sde of the road. I've had to swerve round loads of them. Why do two such people never meet? SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Caution: Always engage brain before operating mouth. > What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? > > I ask because double yellow lines have appeared all over the streets in my small village In this small town there is a building that once was a car showroom, there are now double yellow lines in front of the building and single yellows either side for a 100 yards or so. I parked there and was approached by someone from the building who pointed out the yellow restriction lines and threatened to call the pigs if I didn't move. I challenged him to do so as I had seen with my own eyes him and his staff painting the lines themselves on the road the preceeding week. OK it didn't work on me but I must admit it is a good idea it's very effective and I'm happy with it as usually, when I'm around there, I have somewhere to park for free. >> What's the punishment for double yellow line parking? Round here parking outside the times on one of those blasted signs just gets you a £30 fine. Is it worse for double yellows? >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > effective and I'm happy with it as usually, when I'm around there, I > have somewhere to park for free. Why not photograph the lines and tell the police of unauthorised alterations to the roads? Then go and speak to the bugger and say "gotcha!" SignatureI'm no. 2796 worldwide in BOINC distributed computing. Are you contributing? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ I'm the 89th top alpha tester worldwide for protein research systems. I'm the 118th top contributor worldwide to extreme weather event research. I'm the 170th top contributor worldwide to 2-phase fluid behavior in microgravity and microfluidics computer simulations. Of course an 8 core i7 processor helps :-) http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com ) ( ( ) ) ) ( ( _______)_ .-'---------| ( C|/\/\/\/\/| '-./\/\/\/\/| '_________' '-------' |
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