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Car Forum / UK Car Forums / Driving (UK group) / April 2004benefit of zetec
Hi all. I'm looking at getting a Focus. I know the different levels of trim and the benefits of each. But what's the point of the Zetec range. Apart from the add on's (alloys etc) the engine is Zetec, but what's different about a Zetec engine compared to a regular Ford Focus engine? Thanks "johnny8977" <cyki@johnny8977.plus.comNOSPAM> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > I'm looking at getting a Focus. I know the different levels of trim and > the benefits of each. But what's the point of the Zetec range. Apart > from the add on's (alloys etc) the engine is Zetec, but what's > different about a Zetec engine compared to a regular Ford Focus engine? Nothing. There's Zetec the engine, and Zetec the trim level.... > I'm looking at getting a Focus. I know the different levels of trim and the > benefits of each. But what's the point of the Zetec range. Apart from the > add on's (alloys etc) the engine is Zetec, but what's different about a > Zetec engine compared to a regular Ford Focus engine? The Zetec range is the 'Sporty' option. You get Sports Seats, some aluminium-effect trim inside, alloy wheels and often a rear spoiler. It's simply a trim level - with the exception of the Duratec-ST in the ST170, all Focus petrol engines are Zetec engines. It gets even more amusing when you buy a TDCi Zetec ;) > The Zetec range is the 'Sporty' option. You get Sports Seats, some > aluminium-effect trim inside, alloy wheels and often a rear spoiler. It's > simply a trim level - with the exception of the Duratec-ST in the ST170, all > Focus petrol engines are Zetec engines. > > It gets even more amusing when you buy a TDCi Zetec ;) I had a Mondeo Estate 2.0 Zetec. The differences between this and the LX seemed to come down to alloys, mesh grille, and a spoiler. A Mondeo Estate with a standard spoiler........! > I'm looking at getting a Focus. I know the different levels of trim and the > benefits of each. But what's the point of the Zetec range. Apart from the > add on's (alloys etc) the engine is Zetec, but what's different about a > Zetec engine compared to a regular Ford Focus engine? Isn't the Zetec Ford's version of Honda's VTec? An engine with alternate cam profiles and/or valves that shut off? Kind of gives you two or three engines for the price of one? Andrue Cope [Brackley, UK] > Isn't the Zetec Ford's version of Honda's VTec? An engine with alternate cam > profiles and/or valves that shut off? Kind of gives you two or three engines > for the price of one? > > Andrue Cope > [Brackley, UK] There's two issues here - Zetec engines, and the Zetec trim level. >> Isn't the Zetec Ford's version of Honda's VTec? An engine with alternate >cam [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >There's two issues here - Zetec engines, and the Zetec trim level. (Nothing like not answering a direct question.) No, Zetec is just a marketing name for the range of engines that superseded the Pinto and CVH designs. However, one might wonder if the marketeers didn't think the similarity to the Vtec name wouldn't also make potential buyers think it was indeed a bit different from the norm. I'm not aware Ford have any variable valve anything in any cooking models, but may be wrong.  SignatureMy mind's made up. Don't confuse me with the facts. Mail john rather than nospam... "John Laird" <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> wrote in message > > (Nothing like not answering a direct question.) I didn't answer the direct question, because I didn't know the answer! >"John Laird" <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> wrote in message > >> (Nothing like not answering a direct question.) > >I didn't answer the direct question, because I didn't know the answer! Are you a politician ? <g> SignatureRecent studies show that recent studies are meaningless. Mail john rather than nospam... > >"John Laird" <nospam@laird-towers.org.uk> wrote in message > > >> (Nothing like not answering a direct question.) > > > >I didn't answer the direct question, because I didn't know the answer! > > Are you a politician ? <g> If I was, I wouldn't have admitted to not knowing the answer! > > I'm looking at getting a Focus. I know the different levels of trim and the > > benefits of each. But what's the point of the Zetec range. Apart from the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > profiles and/or valves that shut off? Kind of gives you two or three engines > for the price of one? Not guaranteed. The only engine with something clever is the 170PS in the ST170. All the 'lower' Zetec's (i.e. most of them) are 'normal' 16V. Justin. : Not guaranteed. The only engine with something clever is the 170PS in the : ST170. All the 'lower' Zetec's (i.e. most of them) are 'normal' 16V. The 1.7 Puma has VVT too. Blair. "B.G. Finlay IT Services" wrote: > : Not guaranteed. The only engine with something clever is the 170PS in the > : ST170. All the 'lower' Zetec's (i.e. most of them) are 'normal' 16V. > > The 1.7 Puma has VVT too. s'not a Zetec tho', it's a Yamaha unit. SignatureScott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? : "B.G. Finlay IT Services" wrote: : > : Not guaranteed. The only engine with something clever is the 170PS in the : > : ST170. All the 'lower' Zetec's (i.e. most of them) are 'normal' 16V. : > : > The 1.7 Puma has VVT too. : s'not a Zetec tho', it's a Yamaha unit. Yes it is ... it's a Zetec-SE. Blair. B.G. Finlay IT Services wrote: >> "B.G. Finlay IT Services" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yes it is ... it's a Zetec-SE. That might be what Ford call it, but Yamaha were heavily involved in the design from what I've read. : B.G. Finlay IT Services wrote: : > Yes it is ... it's a Zetec-SE. : That might be what Ford call it, but Yamaha were heavily involved in the : design from what I've read. I know about the Yamaha involvement in the design but if Ford call it a Zetec then that's good enough for me. What did Mazda call it in the 121 or did they use their own engines? Blair. B.G. Finlay IT Services wrote: >> B.G. Finlay IT Services wrote: >>> Yes it is ... it's a Zetec-SE. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > it a Zetec then that's good enough for me. What did Mazda call it in > the 121 or did they use their own engines? I suppose it would depend on what block Ford based it on. If it's based on a CVH / Zetec block, then it's a Zetec. If it's a Yammy block or something, it's not really on calling it a Zetech. IMO you could still have the same block and replace so much of the engine that it's a bit daft trying to say it's the same sort of engine. All the Jag engines have Ford blocks AFAIK, but they fettle a lot of bits so you can't really say they're Ford engines either... > >>>> Not guaranteed. The only engine with something clever is the > >>>> 170PS in the ST170. All the 'lower' Zetec's (i.e. most of them) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > That might be what Ford call it, but Yamaha were heavily involved in the > design from what I've read. And Yamaha were heavily involved in the 1.25 litre Zetec-SE engine. Don't think they had much to do with the 1.6, 1.8 or 2 litre versions though. I think they were just called Zetec-E actually. Peter > : "B.G. Finlay IT Services" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yes it is ... it's a Zetec-SE. They're the engines that they flew somewhere special (Half way across the world) to have their cylinders coated with some special slippery material... Justin. > Isn't the Zetec Ford's version of Honda's VTec? An engine with > alternate cam profiles and/or valves that shut off? Kind of gives > you two or three engines for the price of one? What, from Ford? Not likely![1] It's been one of their standard engine for over 10 years now, fitted originally to Escorts as, I believe, a sporty version. The Zetec-E was an updated version, but still not ground breaking. SWMBOs '97 16v 1.6 Zetec is rated at 90ps. My old '92 8v 1.6 Nova was rated at 100! SignatureScott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? [1] Actually, there may be some clever bits in the ST-170 Focus, but they're a very small number. > > Isn't the Zetec Ford's version of Honda's VTec? An engine with > > alternate cam profiles and/or valves that shut off? Kind of gives [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > breaking. SWMBOs '97 16v 1.6 Zetec is rated at 90ps. My old '92 8v 1.6 > Nova was rated at 100! That's a bit wheezy of the Zetec then, given the old 8v CVH lump was rated at 105 when it had EFI! Pete. SignatureNOTE! Email address is spamtrapped. Any email will be bounced to you Remove the news and underscore from my address to reply by mail > That's a bit wheezy of the Zetec then, given the old 8v CVH lump was rated > at 105 when it had EFI! Maybe they are being a bit more honest in their advertising, either that or realised that they don't last that long when given that extra bit more poke, or emission controls have strangled the engine even further as standard. SignatureThe poster formerly known as Skodapilot. http://www.bouncing-czechs.com >> That's a bit wheezy of the Zetec then, given the old 8v CVH lump was >> rated at 105 when it had EFI! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bit more poke, or emission controls have strangled the engine even > further as standard. We had a J reg Orion which had one of the first Zetec engines, 1.8 16v, was a fair bit more powerful than the 8v version, but sadly can't remember (or never knew) power figures. > What, from Ford? Not likely![1] It's been one of their standard engine > for over 10 years now, fitted originally to Escorts as, I believe, a > sporty version. The Zetec-E was an updated version, but still not ground > breaking. SWMBOs '97 16v 1.6 Zetec is rated at 90ps. My old '92 8v 1.6 > Nova was rated at 100! And the 1.4 K series engines had 104bhp. I blame emissions regulations. Peter > The Zetec-E was an updated version, but still not ground > > breaking. SWMBOs '97 16v 1.6 Zetec is rated at 90ps. My old '92 8v 1.6 > > Nova was rated at 100! > > And the 1.4 K series engines had 104bhp. I blame emissions regulations. I thought that was the Rover 'K' series. Andrue Cope [Brackley, UK] > > The Zetec-E was an updated version, but still not ground > > > breaking. SWMBOs '97 16v 1.6 Zetec is rated at 90ps. My old '92 8v 1.6 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I thought that was the Rover 'K' series. That's what the man said (well, meant anyway :-) ) SignatureScott Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket? |
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