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I have a question. I've seen a lot of signs on or just before tight bends saying "max speed 30", yet the speed of the road is 40 mph. There isn't normally a 40 mph sign after the bend to inform that the speed is now increased. I find it a bit inconsistent. > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. Isn't there enough signage already? > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. Then you must assume that the limit is still 30mph untill you see another speed sign. Bod > Then you must assume that the limit is still 30mph > untill you see another speed sign. Another incompetent arse...  SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> Then you must assume that the limit is still 30mph >> untill you see another speed sign. > > Another incompetent arse... When I think arse, your face always come to mind. Hiram explained : > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. Uually the 30 will be combined with the bend warning, indicating that the limit is just on that particular bend. SignatureRegards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk >Hiram explained : >> I have a question. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Uually the 30 will be combined with the bend warning, indicating that >the limit is just on that particular bend. Signs saying "max speed 30" are advisory and do not affect the limit. SignatureIan D > Signs saying "max speed 30" are advisory and do not affect the limit. Cheers for the info. > > Signs saying "max speed 30" are advisory and do not affect the limit. > > Cheers for the info. Why the f.ck did you need to be told in the first place? SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > Why the f.ck did you need to be told in the first place? What are you a policemen now. > > Why the f.ck did you need to be told in the first place? > > What are you a policemen now. No, just someone forced to put my life at risk by sharing roads with incompetent fuckwits like you. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > No, just someone forced to put my life at risk by sharing roads with > incompetent fuckwits like you. I'm hardly going to be driving round the shithole that you live in. > > No, just someone forced to put my life at risk by sharing roads with > > incompetent fuckwits like you. > > I'm hardly going to be driving round the shithole that you live in. That would be the low population density/low crime level rural area of outstanding natural beauty that millions of people actually want to come and visit every year? Remind me what crime ridden concreted over shithole you live in? SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > Remind me what crime ridden concreted over shithole you live in? It's the one with low unemployment, unlike the street you live in where most families have a person on the dole. > It's the one with low unemployment, unlike the street you live in where > most families have a person on the dole. You're relying on that well known inaccurate website again... SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> It's the one with low unemployment, unlike the street you live in where >> most families have a person on the dole. > > You're relying on that well known inaccurate website again... The ONS has some good information about unemployment. Your area is quite badly hit. Sad, but true. > The ONS has some good information about unemployment. Your area is > quite badly hit. Sad, but true. The ONS website lumps us in with Hull and Bridlington, well known areas for dole scroungers. However in Driffield, we prefer to work for our money. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > However in Driffield, we prefer to work for our money. Pity the pay rates are so low in your area. It's simple supply and demand. No one needs unskilled workers these days. > > However in Driffield, we prefer to work for our money. > > Pity the pay rates are so low in your area. Again, you're looking at the ONS site. Rates in East Yorks are higher than they are in Hull. Take the lorry driving. I could drive for £7/hr in Hull or £10.50/hr in East Yorks. > It's simple Apparently not. Housing is dirt cheap compared to the concrete shithole you live in - the one you refuse to tell us the name of. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > Again, you're looking at the ONS site. Rates in East Yorks are higher > than they are in Hull. Take the lorry driving. I could drive for £7/hr > in Hull or £10.50/hr in East Yorks. Actually I wasn't using ONS. Working for a driving agency as a temporary driver isn't the same as a full time career. And to be honest, the rates you quote aren't anything special. > Apparently not. Housing is dirt cheap compared to the concrete shithole > you live in - the one you refuse to tell us the name of. I live in Chelmsford. Feel free to look up the crime rates and the wage levels. > Working for a driving agency as a temporary driver isn't the same as a > full time career. And? Some people, like me, made a career out of agency driv ing. > And to be honest, the rates you quote aren't anything > special. For where you live. > > Apparently not. Housing is dirt cheap compared to the concrete shithole > > you live in - the one you refuse to tell us the name of. > > I live in Chelmsford. Feel free to look up the crime rates and the wage > levels. I am correct in that the housing is so expensive that you need to earn three times the hourly rate just to afford a one bedroom flat. Its all about disposable income and in Chelmsford, there's plenty of plastic millionaires... As for crime. In Chelmsford it is so bad that you have to have: A domestic violence forum A racial incidence and hate crime panel A Safer Town forum A Quality of Life group In fact crime in Chelmsford is so bad that "Purse theft" is regarded as low level crime. Obviously its such a violent crime ridden shithole that crime is so common that such a major thing for a person is trivialised. "Violence against the person" (which we have 2 or 3 offences in total) is OVER THREE TIMES what the total number in ALL recorded categories in Driffield are. When you adjust that for the population difference, that ONE category alone in Chelmsford is 133.1 offences per 11,000 people (population of Driffield) which is equivalent to ONE QUARTER of the total of ALL the categories in my town. In Chelmsford, you're more likely to suffer violence against the person, have your car broken into, have your car stolen etc etc etc than you are in Driffield. So Driffield is a safer place. Thankyou for proving my point. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> Working for a driving agency as a temporary driver isn't the same as a >> full time career. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > So Driffield is a safer place. Thankyou for proving my point. This argument sounds very petty and slightly childish, to be honest. Bod > This argument sounds very petty and slightly > childish, to be honest. Such arguments have been the basis of Usenet for nearly three decades. Usenet mainly exists as a facilitator for petty, childish and circular arguments. If you don't like it, go join a facetube group or web forum. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > So Driffield is a safer place. Thankyou for proving my point. There is a massive drugs problem in your area which fuels the high crime rate, it looks very much like the local constabulary aren't recording crime accurately. And why are houses so cheap in Driffield - nobody wants to live there. Simple supply and demand. > > So Driffield is a safer place. Thankyou for proving my point. > > There is a massive drugs problem in your area There you go again, looking at those sites which cover the entire county. > which fuels the high crime > rate Not in Driffield. > it looks very much like the local constabulary aren't recording > crime accurately. Wrong. And this I know for a definite fact due to immediate family involvement in this area. You'll find the clue on the East Riding council website. Suffice to say that said relative comes from your shithole end of the world and is quite surprised that drug users in our town don't tend to turn to crime to fund it. When she first started the job, the level of drug use came as a shock considering the extremely low level of crime. > And why are houses so cheap in Driffield Because its not the overcrowded South East. > nobody wants to live there. > Simple supply and demand. No, its that nobody is as daft as you lot down there who pay stupid amounts of money for poxy shitholes. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> which fuels the high crime >> rate > >Not in Driffield. Because crims never do over their own "manor". >> nobody wants to live there. >> Simple supply and demand. > >No, its that nobody is as daft as you lot down there who pay stupid >amounts of money for poxy shitholes. And earn 50% more. B2003 > >> which fuels the high crime > >> rate [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > And earn 50% more. Ah yes, because the 50% increase in wages really compensates for the 300% difference in house prices and, subsequently, mortgage doesn't it? SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> And earn 50% more. >> >Ah yes, because the 50% increase in wages really compensates for the >300% difference in house prices and, subsequently, mortgage doesn't it? Yes - so long as the extra mortgage payments don't add up to an extra 50% of income then you're better off. B2003 > Yes - so long as the extra mortgage payments don't add up to an extra 50% of > income then you're better off. And that's the problem, they do and then some. And then when you start whacking in the travel costs and other expenses in the South East, the picture looks even worse. The simple fact is that you need to be earning nearly three times more to have the same amount of disposable income as we do and the wages aren't anywhere near that. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > Because crims never do over their own "manor". Petty crims are notorious for doing just that. Conor submitted this idea : > No, its that nobody is as daft as you lot down there who pay stupid > amounts of money for poxy shitholes. It must be one of those peculiar days, I agree with Conor. SignatureRegards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk > > I live in Chelmsford. Feel free to look up the crime rates and the wage > > levels. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > about disposable income and in Chelmsford, there's plenty of plastic > millionaires... It's not that so much Conor, as that Chelmsford is a shithole and has been as long as I can remember. There are some pleasant places out that way, none of them actually within Chelmsford. It's also the most parochial place I've ever been to. I can't think of any redeeming features. Despite the way you paint it above, it's actually a bit low-rent. Junior bank clerks commute there from Liverpool Street when they can't aford to live in Stratford or Wanstead flats. The only professionals there used to work at Marconis, and they weren't exactly well paid either. Still, it's better than Braintree which is mostly like a scene from a George Romero zombie movie. > Still, it's better than Braintree which is mostly like a scene from a > George Romero zombie movie. TBH, I've not seen anywhere in Essex which I'd say was exceptional and worth the money. You can go to Sussex or Berkshire or places in Hampshire etc and drive around and see why stuff there is worth the money it costs but in Essex, nothing. Lots of slum council house estates though. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > > Still, it's better than Braintree which is mostly like a scene from a > > George Romero zombie movie. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > money it costs but in Essex, nothing. Lots of slum council house estates > though. If you want the pits in Essex I think it has to be South Woodham Ferrers which is an estate of cardboard houses built around a supermarket. Words don't exist for how vile the place is. >TBH, I've not seen anywhere in Essex which I'd say was exceptional and >worth the money. You can go to Sussex or Berkshire or places in >Hampshire etc and drive around and see why stuff there is worth the >money it costs but in Essex, nothing. Lots of slum council house estates >though. Most essex towns are just post war spill estates for east enders. They're almost as artificial (so to speak) as milton keynes. B2003 > TBH, I've not seen anywhere in Essex which I'd say was exceptional and > worth the money. You get the price people are willing to pay - they are obviously willing to pay more to live here then where you are. If Driffield is so nice, why aren't people willing to pay more to live there. Truth is, its a dump full of unemployed truck drivers. > > TBH, I've not seen anywhere in Essex which I'd say was exceptional and > > worth the money. > > You get the price people are willing to pay No, you get the price people are stupid enough to pay. > If Driffield is so nice, > why aren't people willing to pay more to live there. Because they're not as stupid as you lot. > Truth is, its a > dump full of unemployed truck drivers. If Driffield is so bad, and Essex is so nice, how come so many move up here from down there? SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > If Driffield is so bad, and Essex is so nice, how come so many move up > here from down there? That is purely anecdotal. But even if you're right, could many more going the other way to find work. > > If Driffield is so bad, and Essex is so nice, how come so many move up > > here from down there? > > That is purely anecdotal. But even if you're right, could many more > going the other way to find work. BWAHAHA SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > It's not that so much Conor, as that Chelmsford is a shithole and has > been as long as I can remember. Are you from the north as well? > > It's not that so much Conor, as that Chelmsford is a shithole and has > > been as long as I can remember. > > Are you from the north as well? You live a long way North from where I am. I'd have to drive about 100miles North to get to the same latitude. So it's you that has the flat cap and t'whippets. Have you filled your bath with coal for winter? You also have got to be blind if you think Chelmsford is anything other than a shithole. No decent pubs, no decent restaurants, no decent shops and the majority of the place is, as Conor has said, a massive series of sub-standard council estates. The only "posh" bit is Galleywood and that's full of council houses as well. Still, I supose Chelmsford has to exist to give the web-footed inbreeders somewhere to be. >> > It's not that so much Conor, as that Chelmsford is a shithole and has >> > been as long as I can remember. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Still, I supose Chelmsford has to exist to give the web-footed >inbreeders somewhere to be. Ok, I'm from Chelmsford and I have to take issue with one of your points... Galleywood is not 'posh' by any stretch of the imagination. Other than that all the rest seems to be quite accurate. Back in the sixties Chelmsford was a rather nice small town with something for everyone. Unfortunately, the town planners had a bit of a bad day and proceeded to remove almost all the historical heritage that the town possessed. We were left with some of the worst acrchitecture I have ever seen and I've been to Milton Keynes. What do we have? Nightlife? sh.t unless you like to be surrounded by drunk kids that 'wanna no about it? Food? Possibly one good restaurant in the whole town. Theatre? O' perleeeez As has been said before, the only good thing coming out of Chelmsford is the A12. > As has been said before, the only good thing coming out of Chelmsford > is the A12. Does it still have that bloody stupid one-lane flyover?[1] I knew the bloke who designed that. [1] On the way to Galleywood. >> As has been said before, the only good thing coming out of Chelmsford >> is the A12. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >[1] On the way to Galleywood. Yes, it's still there. It used to be controlled to allow max traffic flow for the given time of day... Guess what? They've altered it in the last couple of years as an experiment, made matters worse and now walked away. Along with the re phasing of the flyover came about 4 different sets of traffic lights for the roundabout below, each set lasting for about 4-5 months. No doubt someone else will come along and change things back to how they were and in doing so get lots of praise and commendation for a job well done. As an aside, the roundabout was named for the pub on the corner that was Chelmsford's only live music venue of worth. Many big names performed there over the years. But Chelmsford being Chelmsford, it was demolished to make way for a Frankie & Benny's plus a Travel lodge. Ho hum. > As an aside, the roundabout was named for the pub on the corner that > was Chelmsford's only live music venue of worth. Many big names > performed there over the years. But Chelmsford being Chelmsford, it > was demolished to make way for a Frankie & Benny's plus a Travel > lodge. I've just checked Google Earth, the place we used to have in Galleywood - a 16thC cottage with a huge garden - has been demolished and some dreadful Chingford Wives excressence has been built in its place. I withdraw my comment about "posh". > Ho hum. Indeed. I used to work at a research facility built at a farm just south of Braintree. It has been demolished and turned into a nasty little cardboard box housing estate. >> > Signs saying "max speed 30" are advisory and do not affect the limit. >> >> Cheers for the info. > > Why the f..k did you need to be told in the first place? Oh do shut up you offensive foul mouthed little man. Why are you using the company name of a similar company in Melbourne? I have just sent http://www.notebooksrus.com.au/ an email asking if they give you permission or if they are associated with you. There is no trace of you on the Companies House web site, so I might just have to drop the Revenue & Customs Office an email in the morning. You do not display your UK Registered Company Number or even your VAT Number, so be expecting a call and investigation in to your trading. > You do not display your UK > Registered Company Number or even your VAT Number, so > be expecting a call and investigation in to your trading. It must take some effort to be quite as stupid as you. Just how little clue do you have about company law and VAT law? > > You do not display your UK > > Registered Company Number or even your VAT Number, so > > be expecting a call and investigation in to your trading. > > It must take some effort to be quite as stupid as you. Just how little clue > do you have about company law and VAT law? The closing words "about company law and VAT law?" are superfluous "Roger" has shown adequate proof that he's unable to formulate a coherent argument on a wide range of topics. > Why are you using the company name of a similar company > in Melbourne? Because I live in the UK. > I have just sent http://www.notebooksrus.com.au/ > an email asking if they give you permission or if they are associated > with you. I bet they'll work out you're the Tiscali idiot in about 10 seconds as well then. > There is no trace of you on the Companies House > web site, Correct. > so I might just have to drop the Revenue & Customs > Office an email in the morning. Please do. In fact, why don't you phone them and report me? Here's all my details: Conor Turton 36 Eastfield Road Driffield East Yorks YO25 5EZ > You do not display your UK > Registered Company Number Correct, because I don't have one. I don't have one because I don't need one. CLUE IS IN THE BUSINESS NAME. > or even your VAT Number, Correct, because I don't have one. I don't have one because I don't need one. > so > be expecting a call and investigation in to your trading. I doubt it. HMRC are more than aware of me thankyou. OTOH, you might just get a lesson in the definition of Sole Trader, dumbass. Roger, once again reminding us why he has the title of "Tiscali idiot". SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >Please do. In fact, why don't you phone them and report me? Here's all >my details: Why not give the id fraudsters your car reg and NI number while you're at it. B200 > >Please do. In fact, why don't you phone them and report me? Here's all > >my details: > > Why not give the id fraudsters your car reg and NI number while you're at it. Bloater...challenging Roger for the crown of the most stupid person on Usenet. Here's a clue: It is information readily available on the electoral roll. You're as stupid as those dumbasses who won't give you their bank account number and sort code so you can pay them on Ebay but will quite happily hand over a cheque with the same details to any old Tom, Dick or Harry. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >Here's a clue: It is information readily available on the electoral >roll. Unfortunately it is. But theres no reason to make things even easier for scammers. B2003 > >Here's a clue: It is information readily available on the electoral > >roll. > > Unfortunately it is. But theres no reason to make things even easier for > scammers. You'd better put your tin foil hat back on and disconnect your computer from the internet. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. >> >Here's a clue: It is information readily available on the electoral >> >roll. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You'd better put your tin foil hat back on and disconnect your computer >from the internet. But if I do that I can't check to see if you've been absent from usenet for a while, assume you're away somewhere then go around and burgle your house or rifle through your bins for any useful id numbers or bank details. B2003 >>> > Signs saying "max speed 30" are advisory and do not affect the >>> > limit. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > Oh do shut up you offensive foul mouthed little man. Roger, you really are an annoying, thick c.nt. Mike P >I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. If a sign sets a limit it'll be in a red circle. If not, it's just advisory. > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. It's a sign telling you that the bend is sharp enough that you should slow to 30 , though they are often on the cautious side. I hope you can figure out for yourself when the corner has ended. SignatureAlex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" >> I have a question. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's a sign telling you that the bend is sharp enough that you should > slow to 30 , though they are often on the cautious side. Often by around 100% !! Kev > >> I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Kev I haven't come across one yet that is uncomfortable at 20mph above the stated speed on the sign. However that is for me, not every one drives the same and some people would be sh.t scared going round the m at 20mph less than the stated speed. Nkosi >> I have a question. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It's a sign telling you that the bend is sharp enough that you should slow > to 30 , though they are often on the cautious side. They do seem to be on the cautious side for a car in the UK. I've met ones elsewhere which are rather closer though. > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. Tear up your licence now, you're too incompetent to drive. SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. Tear up > your licence now, you're too incompetent to drive. Yep, probably true. Good job God gave me a large penis to make up for it. > That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. What about this one, legal or advisory? http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yv4ld2&outx=800&quality=70 [This followup was posted to uk.rec.driving and a copy was sent to the cited author.] > > That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. > > What about this one, legal or advisory? > > http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yv4ld2&outx=800&quality=70 Probably not enforceable as it isn't in a fixed postion or of the correct size for either a change of limit or a repeater. SignatureCarl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 > > That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. > > What about this one, legal or advisory? > > http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yv4ld2&outx=800&quality=70 Are you that dim? Here, go learn something: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/20023113.htm SignatureConor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. > Are you that dim? You think a question about a speed limit sticker on a wheelie bin is a serious question and you call ME dim? >>> That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. >> What about this one, legal or advisory? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Here, go learn something: > http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2002/20023113.htm Oh dear, you really do think he was serious, don't you. Bod >> That's because they're not a legal speed limit but an advisory. > > What about this one, legal or advisory? > > http://newimages.fotopic.net/?iid=yv4ld2&outx=800&quality=70 The one on the right is advisory as he's not a real policeman. > I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I find it a bit inconsistent. Is it a warning sign (triangular) or an order sign (circular) McKevvy >> I have a question. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Is it a warning sign (triangular) or an order sign (circular) No, its a rectangle. > >> I have a question. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > No, its a rectangle. Well then take it as a warning and not a compulsory speed limit sign. McK |
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