Hi, all.
I'm not a regular visitor to this group, but I wonder if anyone has any
thoughts:
I have a 2002 VW Golf 2.0 estate. Regularly serviced, mostly used on
occasional long journeys. Now has about 35000 miles.
It burns oil at an alarming rate. I reckon about 1200 miles per litre,
more if driven fast. The VW dealer says that VW allow an oil consumption
of up to 600 miles (1000 Km) per litre. This is ridiculous. It means
that it can't be used on a long holiday without topping up the oil.
After one service, the dealer rather sheepishly gave me an extra litre
of oil, saying that it "might be useful".
I'm technical enough to check it and top it up, but how do VW ever
expect such a car to survive from one service to the next in the hands
of the non-technical?
As I say, I'd be interested in thoughts...
Richard D.
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Pete M - 15 May 2007 21:07 GMT
In news:n91k431nmuigpkqdbghja17rtacti9d1to@4ax.com,
Richard Dungan <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> wittered on forthwith;
> Hi, all.
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> As I say, I'd be interested in thoughts...
It's not unusual for a Golf engine to burn more oil than you'd expect. They
tend to get better as they get to higher mileages, strangely enough.
Mine uses about a litre per 1000 miles.

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diy-newby - 16 May 2007 09:36 GMT
> In news:n91k431nmuigpkqdbghja17rtacti9d1to@4ax.com,
> Richard Dungan <postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> wittered on forthwith;
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> Mine uses about a litre per 1000 miles.
The 2.0 lump is renowned for burning oil. Nothing you can do about it!
Dave - 16 May 2007 11:13 GMT
>> Currently listening to The White Stripes
>>
> The 2.0 lump is renowned for burning oil. Nothing you can do about it!
In addition, up to 1l per 600 miles is pretty much what all manufacturers
would consider normal consumption.
You could try asking if there's an alternative oil that could be used to
control consumption.
Many people believe that high oil consumption is down to how the engine is
run-in. Be too gentle with it and you the piston rings don't seat properly
allowing oil past. I read about this before we bought our A4. I'd heard
stories of the 1.9 PD130 engine using quite a bit of oil so I decided to
drive it normally from day one. I would make sure it warmed up properly but
after that I used the full rev range. So far it's used may 2l of oil in
25,000 miles.
AndyR - 16 May 2007 16:49 GMT
Yes, the MK IV 2.0 L engine is renown for using more oil than shall we say
'normal'.
There are posts to the same effect on the MKIV.net forum.
As already said, ask if there is an oil that could possibly reduce the
consumption. What oil is it running on now? If its a synthetic then I'd
guess it'd use more than say an organic.
HTH
AndyR
Ex VR6 now Bora PD 150
SFC - 17 May 2007 12:35 GMT
> Yes, the MK IV 2.0 L engine is renown for using more oil than shall we say
> 'normal'.
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> Ex VR6 now Bora PD 150
Not only the 2.0. My brother has a '05 polo with the 1.4/16v engine and it's
burning oil a lot.
I never had to add oil with my old '89 1.6l. Even my hard driven G60 turbo
doesn't burn oil. Maybe vw has decided to use cheaper materials for there
engines.
Here are some tips how to break in a new engine:
http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
He does have a point.......
SFC
Chris Bartram - 17 May 2007 13:21 GMT
>> Yes, the MK IV 2.0 L engine is renown for using more oil than shall we say
>> 'normal'.
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> SFC
Our Lupo 16V doesn't use a drop. Like I've posted elsewhere, the only VW
I've had use oil significantly was a Golf 1.1, and that was from leakage
:-).
All of my TDI cars have used a small amount though.
Richard Dungan - 18 May 2007 11:55 GMT
All,
Thanks for all your help on my Golf 2.0. The discussions gave pointers
elsewhere, and it turns out that the engine is numbered in the AQY
series, which also points to an inherent problem (defect?) with the
rings. I suppose it is at least not abnormal for that engine.
I might try topping up with a different oil (the garage always use GTX
Enertec).
I think that VW should hang their heads in shame, though.
Richard
Richard D.
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JungleBoy - 18 May 2007 12:12 GMT
I have a Golf TDi Mk4 SE 130 (53reg) with about 35000 on the clock.
The "Oil low" lamp came on the other day. I put about a 1.5 pints of oil in
and the problem has gone away for now. This is a bit of a supprise - I
haven't had an engine that loses oil before.
I assume that when it had it's last service the grease monkey at the VW garage
didn't realise that the new oil filter requires a pint of oil to fill it
causing the dip stick reading to drop once the engine is started first time
after an oil change. In future I'll check the oil level myself after it comes
back from the garage just to make sure and perhaps check it once in a while
as well.
I've also noticed a puff of smoke when starting from cold - may be a preheater
has gone.
Chris Bartram - 18 May 2007 14:20 GMT
> I have a Golf TDi Mk4 SE 130 (53reg) with about 35000 on the clock.
> The "Oil low" lamp came on the other day. I put about a 1.5 pints of oil in
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> I've also noticed a puff of smoke when starting from cold - may be a preheater
> has gone.
My Skoda Fabia with the PD130 uses a little oil too, and I think I've
just had the post-service oil level drop too, but experience has shown
it will use very litttle now until the next service. A bit of smoke is
normal: I think the PD130 is smokier than earlier TDI lumps.
Richard Polhill - 18 May 2007 17:41 GMT
> Hi, all.
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> Spamtrapped at ngsATradixDASHdesignDOTcoDOTuk
> www.radix-design.co.uk
Yes that is perfectly normal and reasonable for many modern engines -
for a given value of modern.
That APK engine IME uses nothing at all between services for the first
80k mils and then suddenly starts using the stuff. It is well within
spec. so just check it occasionally and top it up.
Rich, having just found *his* Bora 2.0 off the bottom of the dipstick -
oops.