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Car Forum / Volkswagen / Water Cooled Volkswagen Cars / April 2009

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MIL resets and fault code scanning minor fixing

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Peter smith - 28 Apr 2009 17:40 GMT
I've been into VAG cars for about 8/9 years now and was thinking I spent
so much money on diagnostics as a hobbyist and thought about starting a
low cost diagnostic service and possible fixing of the problem depending
what it is.

I remember when I bought my first VAG car and had nothing diagnostic
wise and took it to a specialist who charged me £60 to clear fault code
of the engine management light and a further £35 for a coil pack which
cause it (ahh they beloved coil pack faults)the coil packs only cost
£19.25 and resetting the light with my scanner free :) so I could do
this job for a fair price of say £40/£45 cover cost and labour.

Having just been made redundant :( I'm not thinking about new career
change maybe do small mechanical work and diagnostics on street\driver
or at work for a cheaper labour cost than garages who obviously have
higher overheads etc as a business.

Never done an form of self employment so I guess I have to work out how
to do it properly and how big a chunk the tax man wants :) of my empire.

Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or if
I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)
Chris Bartram - 28 Apr 2009 22:39 GMT
> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or if
> I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)

What scanner do you have? Really, for thorough diags including newish
VAG cars you need either a VAS dealer scanner, or a recent copy of
VAG-COM/VCDS with CAN and HEX support.
Wanderer - 28 Apr 2009 23:48 GMT
>> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or if
>> I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)
>
> What scanner do you have? Really, for thorough diags including newish VAG
> cars you need either a VAS dealer scanner, or a recent copy of
> VAG-COM/VCDS with CAN and HEX support.

For the odd job or two for pocket money it is probably workable. If you
intend to do it for a living then there are a lot of extra responsibilities
and costs. I don't know what might be required but I guess tax, health
insurance, insurance to cover being sued by dissatisfied customers, the list
could go on a bit.
Peter smith - 29 Apr 2009 10:22 GMT
>>> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or if
>>> I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> insurance, insurance to cover being sued by dissatisfied customers, the list
> could go on a bit.

Sounds fair, and given me some food for thought.

Going to get it down on paper to see if its viable or a total waste of
time.
Peter smith - 29 Apr 2009 10:20 GMT
>> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or
>> if I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)
>
> What scanner do you have? Really, for thorough diags including newish
> VAG cars you need either a VAS dealer scanner, or a recent copy of
> VAG-COM/VCDS with CAN and HEX support.

I have the all singing and dancing VAG COM lead HEX/CAN support. Totally
amazing work from Ross tech.
Chris Bartram - 30 Apr 2009 08:38 GMT
>>> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or
>>> if I should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)
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> I have the all singing and dancing VAG COM lead HEX/CAN support. Totally
> amazing work from Ross tech.
Me too. I bought it a couple of years ago, despite not having a CAN-only
car. I was pleased I did, as now I *do* have a Leon, which needs it.

To be honest, it's been worth the cost for me just for our 2 cars and a
few favours for people.

Good luck.
Doki - 30 Apr 2009 09:12 GMT
> I've been into VAG cars for about 8/9 years now and was thinking I spent
> so much money on diagnostics as a hobbyist and thought about starting a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> resetting the light with my scanner free :) so I could do this job for a
> fair price of say £40/£45 cover cost and labour.

There's a shop offering fault code read and reset for a tenner that I
noticed in Nottingham, so you might want to look into what else is on offer
locally to compete with. The other issue is that I would suspect that most
VAG cars have blown their coil packs and had them replaced by now, so you
might want to find some other common faults to sort out.

> Having just been made redundant :( I'm not thinking about new career
> change maybe do small mechanical work and diagnostics on street\driver or
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Never done an form of self employment so I guess I have to work out how to
> do it properly and how big a chunk the tax man wants :) of my empire.

Firstly, I can see at least a couple of weeks research and prep going into
this, checking prices, researching services that you can provide, speaking
to suppliers, and most importantly, learning basic double entry book keeping
and finding an accountant / book keeper. I appreciate that you'll want to
keep costs down, but you'll have enough to chew on without trying to learn
the intricacies of keeping the revenue off your back. Bear in mind that
unless you want to run as a limited company, you don't actually need a
qualified accountant.

I could see it working if you could get a range of simple jobs set up that a
lot of people wouldn't tackle - retrofitting cruise to VAG cars, which I
understand is very simple, fitting new radios (probably only a tenner + the
price of a fascia adaptor, although you could perhaps add value by offering
setups that work with stock VAG steering wheel controls and cd changers, and
buying the VW headunit and punting it on ebay), adjusting body control
settings like total closure (ie, all windows go up when you lock the car
with the key) etc. I suspect you would also be able to offer engine
remapping using the hardware you have, and a cheap, off the shelf remap
retails at £180. Try getting in touch with someone out of your area who
alread does it and see if you can get contacts to buy maps in on a per item
basis rather than paying for a franchise.

The other key thing would be to negiotiate some kind of trade discount with
VW for parts.

TBH I suspect it may be marginal if you can make a living out of it, but you
could quite easily try it without investing a lot of money in new kit. You'd
obviously forfeit a few weeks dole money, but I'd be amazed if you couldn't
make more than £60 a week. And it shows initiative and all that cobblers on
your next CV.

> Just after a bit of advice or whether this sounds like a good idea or if I
> should just find myself a new employer with a steady pay check :)

From what I've read, it takes an average of 3 months to find a new employer,
and from experience, a lot of agencies aren't taking people on at the
moment. If you can do this to up your income for a couple of months, it'll
be a worthwhile exercise IMO.
 
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