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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / December 2007New V70 - What do you think?
I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of the new V70. Anyone else the same? It looks like a Subaru to me, and whereas the old one (00-07) looked handsome and not out of place amongst Rollers and big Mercs, I think the new one looks a bit cheap and ungainly. In Europe we had this Korean car called a Ssangyong Musso, and it reminds me of that, which isn't a good thing. Maybe it will grow on me. And if I've just eaten, I try to avert my eyes from the new XC70. YMMV Dz > I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of > the new V70. Anyone else the same? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > YMMV > Dz Overall it looks good to me. Volvo typically lags when it comes to making styling changes and the rear-end treatment is no exception. > I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of > the new V70. Anyone else the same? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > YMMV > Dz I like both the new V70 and the new XC70 well enough. I saw the new Mercedes minivan the other day - now THAT's one ugly vehicle, looks like a Chrysler T&C that's been stepped on... >>Overall it looks good to me. > > I like both the new V70 and the new XC70 well enough. Perhaps I'm just being a change-averse stick-in-the-mud. I'll work on it. Dz dransfield schrieb: > Perhaps I'm just being a change-averse stick-in-the-mud. Well, it's just another step to leave the "brick" image, build up with the 140, 240 an maybe the 740 series. For me the new V70 looks too much like the VW Passat from the back side. Maybe I'm old-fashiond as well... ;-) Roland (2000 V40, Austria) > Well, it's just another step to leave the "brick" image, build up with > the 140, 240 an maybe the 740 series. > For me the new V70 looks too much like the VW Passat from the back > side. While my Volvo dealer was changing the timing belt on my '01 V70XC, I looked at the new XC70 for about 3 hours. I couldn't tell much difference except the lights are laid out differently and they have some funning looking lights or reflectors in the rear bumper on the corners. The changed the layout of the lights so they can have a larger tailgate with a larger opening. Now it should be easier to carry a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood. It will still be at an angle, but it will sit down lower.  SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html > I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of > the new V70. Anyone else the same? Since I don't go around looking at my back end, that is a problem for other people, not me. However, there are some substantive changes. The only engine is the British 6 Cylinder. The Swedish 5 Cylinder is no longer available on the V70 in the US. The V70 is now assembled in Sweden and not Belgium as it was before. It still has a Japanese transmission; it is the 6-speed geartronic. It has a new Haldex AWD system which is acclaimed as much better than the previous Haldex system. They added "Hill-Decent" control which is a big step forward. They added 400 pounds weight which is a big step backward. However, the fuel economy is still good, even slightly improved. It has a healthy serving of electronics that determine if there is a vehicle in your blind spot, if you weave over the center line, turn without signaling, your eyes are not staying open or your head is nodding. It can also give an alarm or adjust the cruise speed if you follow too closely. It has a lot of big brother safety features. They seem like a good idea, but I am skeptical of their implementation out of the box. I can envision many scenarios where such features could be annoying. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html Stephen Henning schrieb: >> I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of >> the new V70. Anyone else the same? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The only engine is the British 6 Cylinder. The Swedish 5 Cylinder is no > longer available on the V70 in the US. Are you sure? > The V70 is now assembled in Sweden and not Belgium as it was before. The V70 was never assembled outside of Sweden (Göteborg). Only the smaller V40, V50 and the S40s were built in Belgium. Jörg Signaturehttp://www.albasani.net/index.html.de Ein freier und kostenloser Server für Usenet/NetNews (NNTP) > Stephen Henning schrieb: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The V70 was never assembled outside of Sweden (Göteborg). Only the > smaller V40, V50 and the S40s were built in Belgium. Nope, I have a V70 built in Belgium, and exported to the US, then it went back to europe (Germany) and I bought it from there. SignatureBrian Sørup Volvo V70 2,5T Aut. - in Denmark > The V70 was never assembled outside of Sweden (Göteborg). Only the > smaller V40, V50 and the S40s were built in Belgium. Most sources put V70 assembly as having been in both Belgium and Sweden. I know for certain that 850s were built in both factories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_V70 > Stephen Henning schrieb: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Are you sure? According the the Volvo USA website only the six is available for 2008 US market V70s. Seems kind of dumb considering the importance of fuel economy these days. > According the the Volvo USA website only the six is available for 2008 > US market V70s. Seems kind of dumb considering the importance of fuel > economy these days. Not really. The new 6 gets better gas mileage on a car that weighs 400 pounds more. It has some exotic variable valve thing that I am not sure what it is. Anyway, it is supposed to be one of the most efficient engines made. The 5 was good, but the 6 is even better. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html >> According the the Volvo USA website only the six is available for 2008 >> US market V70s. Seems kind of dumb considering the importance of fuel [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > what it is. Anyway, it is supposed to be one of the most efficient > engines made. The 5 was good, but the 6 is even better. An a five cylinder version with those same technologies would do better yet. > > The only engine is the British 6 Cylinder. The Swedish 5 Cylinder is no > > longer available on the V70 in the US. > > Are you sure? Yes, I was at the dealer and read the sticker and the fairly large booklet about the V70. But that is the US version. > > The V70 is now assembled in Sweden and not Belgium as it was before. > > The V70 was never assembled outside of Sweden (Göteborg). Only the > smaller V40, V50 and the S40s were built in Belgium. Both my 855s were assembled in Belgium as was my '01 V70XC. All cars in the US have a label showing where the engines and transmissions are made and where the car is assembled. They also tell what portion are USA parts. That is .5% to 1% on the Volvos in the showroom. SignatureCheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://rhodyman.net/homevo.html > I'm having trouble coming to terms with the styling of the rear end of > the new V70. Anyone else the same? I have a 2006 V70 D5. The new V70 is so ugly for me that I will never buy it! Either I will keep my current V70 until they change the rear or I have to switch to the V50 or the S80 further down the road. > It looks like a Subaru to me, and whereas the old one (00-07) looked > handsome and not out of place amongst Rollers and big Mercs, I think > the new one looks a bit cheap and ungainly. In Europe we had this > Korean car called a Ssangyong Musso, and it reminds me of that, which > isn't a good thing. The back of the new one reminds me of a Mitsubishi Galant (in Europe) Station Wagon back in the early 90s: Deja vu and very ugly. The design of the rear is not harmonic, wild and irritating. > Maybe it will grow on me. I doubt that seriously! > And if I've just eaten, I try to avert my eyes from the new XC70. > YMMV > Dz Jörg |
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