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GPS is good for driving or not?

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powerduck129@yahoo.com.cn - 20 Dec 2007 09:04 GMT
hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
driving to travel. so i decide to buy a GPS for him. i have no idea
about the GPS, but get a website from my friend, it is www.housinghouse.com.
i really donot know which one i should choose, could you help me to
see which one is better. thanks everyboday and Marry Christmas (Fibee)
Jimbo - 20 Dec 2007 17:38 GMT
> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
> driving to travel. so i decide to buy a GPS for him. i have no idea
> about the GPS, but get a website from my friend, it iswww.housinghouse.com.
> i really donot know which one i should choose, could you help me to
> see which one is better. thanks everyboday and Marry Christmas (Fibee)

Cant make any specific product recommendations but screen size,
availability of pt-to-date US and Canadian maps and portability would
be my criteria.  He needs to be able to easily take the unit out of
the car when parked as these units are very attractive to thiefs
especially when sitting in full visibility on the dash :(
DE Retiree - 21 Dec 2007 00:24 GMT
Garmin Nuvi 650 or 660.

>> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
>> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
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> the car when parked as these units are very attractive to thiefs
> especially when sitting in full visibility on the dash :(
powerduck129@yahoo.com.cn - 21 Dec 2007 08:56 GMT
> Garmin Nuvi 650 or 660.
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my budget is $200CAN, is it enough? i know the size has 3.5', 4.3' and
7', right?
Hakan Gemici - 25 Dec 2007 00:13 GMT
I have been using a gps navigation system in my car for about two years.
And I am very happy to have this. Yesterday I've bought another gps
navigator for my friend as present. It is a great gadget for
techno-lovers and you can be sure that your cousin gonna love it. A few
notes on buying a gps. It must be easily removable (glass sucking
cradles are good) considering thiefs, and must have frequent map updates
are available.

Jimbo yazmış:
>> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
>> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the car when parked as these units are very attractive to thiefs
> especially when sitting in full visibility on the dash :(
Roadie - 24 Dec 2007 22:05 GMT
> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
> driving to travel. so i decide to buy a GPS for him. i have no idea
> about the GPS, but get a website from my friend, it iswww.housinghouse.com.
> i really donot know which one i should choose, could you help me to
> see which one is better. thanks everyboday and Marry Christmas (Fibee)

A map and a bit of common sense is a far more reliable way of getting
around.
Marvin - 25 Dec 2007 17:00 GMT
>> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
>> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
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> A map and a bit of common sense is a far more reliable way of getting
> around.
A map is less capable, in my experience.  With my gps, when
I miss a turn it quickly displays a new route. And I miss
turns less often because it alerts me when I'm approaching
one and shows me a detailed map of the intersection, and the
name of the street or road I'm turning into.  Maps are
useful to plan trips, since the gps is best for local maps.
Frank - 28 Dec 2007 03:23 GMT
>>> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
>>> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
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> intersection, and the name of the street or road I'm turning into.  Maps
> are useful to plan trips, since the gps is best for local maps.

Also how would anyone be reading a map while driving at night safely?
John Robertson - 23 Jan 2008 05:21 GMT
My friend visiting from another state used his sons gps to find his way
around trouble was it kept directing him to a non existant freeway
.The free way is not open yet but the GPS doesnt know that .

> hello everybody, i wnat to buy a GPS as my cousin's Christmas. my
> cousin is studying in York University in Toronto, and he is love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> i really donot know which one i should choose, could you help me to
> see which one is better. thanks everyboday and Marry Christmas (Fibee)

A map and a bit of common sense is a far more reliable way of getting
around.
Roadie - 23 Jan 2008 16:18 GMT
Or the GPS planned trip that takes the driver through rather than
around a major urban area during rush hour.

> On Jan 23, 12:21 am, "John Robertson" <joh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> My friend visiting from another state used his sons gps to find his way
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> A map and a bit of common sense is a far more reliable way of getting
> around.
Robert Larder - 25 Jan 2008 21:57 GMT
Or the GPS planned trip that takes the driver through rather than
around a major urban area during rush hour.

Yeah, well, even with Satnav you do have to engage your brain once in a
while! ;-)
Roadie - 25 Jan 2008 23:27 GMT
> Or the GPS planned trip that takes the driver through rather than
> around a major urban area during rush hour.
>
> Yeah, well, even with Satnav you do have to engage your brain once in a
> while! ;-)

But that is the problem with satellite navigation - it is step by step
turn here in one minute driving instructions.
James Sweet - 26 Jan 2008 00:23 GMT
On Jan 25, 4:57 pm, "Robert Larder" <farms...@post12.tele.dk> wrote:
> "Roadie" <hjs...@cs.com> skrev i en
> meddelelsenews:e156664c-ef24-4510-8da0-9021ff90a139@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Yeah, well, even with Satnav you do have to engage your brain once in a
> while! ;-)

>But that is the problem with satellite navigation - it is step by step
>turn here in one minute driving instructions.

You can see the whole route on the map, you can alter it prior to heading
out, or stop and alter it anywhere along the way. You can tell it to avoid
highways, or focus on highways, or avoid other things, depends on the
features of the unit. Some can even pick up realtime traffic data.
Roadie - 26 Jan 2008 01:44 GMT
> On Jan 25, 4:57 pm, "Robert Larder" <farms...@post12.tele.dk> wrote:
>
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> highways, or focus on highways, or avoid other things, depends on the
> features of the unit. Some can even pick up realtime traffic data.

You can do all that without a GPS....
James Sweet - 26 Jan 2008 09:10 GMT
On Jan 25, 7:23 pm, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Roadie" <hjs...@cs.com> wrote in message
>
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> highways, or focus on highways, or avoid other things, depends on the
> features of the unit. Some can even pick up realtime traffic data.

>You can do all that without a GPS....

*sigh* you just don't get it, and unless you spend some time with one you
never will, either that or you're a troll. I give up. Some of us do not have
bionic map reading abilities, and for me and everyone else I know who's used
one, a GPS navigator is an incredible asset, some I suppose will never see
the light, or don't do enough of the sort of driving that benefits from one.
Roadie - 26 Jan 2008 19:58 GMT
> On Jan 25, 7:23 pm, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> one, a GPS navigator is an incredible asset, some I suppose will never see
> the light, or don't do enough of the sort of driving that benefits from one.

I have driven with one.  Several times.  And they provide no more
information than a good road map and a bit of common sense.  And they
do tend to cause the driver to lapse into following directions without
thinking about consequences.  Not all the time certainly.  But I just
don't see the benefit.  And they can lose signals in cities with tall
buildings.
clay - 26 Jan 2008 23:28 GMT
> On Jan 25, 7:23 pm, "James Sweet" <jamessw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Roadie" <hjs...@cs.com> wrote in message
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> one, a GPS navigator is an incredible asset, some I suppose will never see
> the light, or don't do enough of the sort of driving that benefits from one.

Roadie been around a while and posted some good stuff. A bit opinionated
maybe but not trolling, so they can stay out of the bitbucket.
I kind of agree with them anyway. If I have to travel unknown territory,
I prefer a full map to a mapquest printout or GPS picture. Once I have
an overview of the area though I can put the map away and follow my
internal compass to get where I'm going. Sometimes have to pull over and
consult the map again but that's just getting old and advanced crs
setting in.
If I have a GPS in the car, I won't turn it off and put it in the glove
box though. Better to hear a turn coming up than squinting at signs
through the pouring rain in the dead of night.
I bought a TOM TOM 700 for my parents for xmas a couple years ago.
They're both retired, have motorhome and the time to travel. Dads ex
engineer so I figure he'll latch onto it. Moms afraid of anything
technological so I'm guessing she'll never touch it.
I remember as a kid, mom taking us somewhere across town and getting
lost, finding her way out of the housing tract we just drove into.
If it weren't for my keen sense of direction and internal compass, we'd
still be driving around looking for the main street. *g*
Short story long... was I surprised when I got an email from mom talking
about how much she loves 'Thomasina' (yes, she named the Tom Tom... and
she does do email)
One of her biggest navigational challenges is getting somewhere and not
being able to turn the directions around in her head to get home. Now
she fires up Thomasina and hits 'take me home' and follows it until she
knows where she's going.
She sings in the choir at the college and one of her assignments was
deliver tickets for an upcoming performance to the music directors at
some of the local high schools. She sat down with a map and Thomasina
and programmed in a route to hit them all. Made the deliveries without a
hitch.
No way she would have accomplished this on her own, without a meltdown
along the way...
Recently, I went with them to a banquet over in Long Beach. A 20 minute
drive in familiar territory. I suggested bringing Thomasina since I've
never traveled anywhere but from the kitchen to the living room with it
before.
Worthless thing couldn't get a signal and didn't finally figure out
where we were until we had made a couple U turns, found the place and
were pulling into the drive... And then the GPS was telling us to make a
U turn and go back the way we came.
Whatever... mom loves it so that's all that matters.
Rick Brandt - 26 Jan 2008 13:54 GMT
> > You can see the whole route on the map, you can alter it prior to
> > heading out, or stop and alter it anywhere along the way. You can
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>
> You can do all that without a GPS....

Yeah, and you can do without any guidance at all by staying at home and posting
useless crap on newsnet.
Roadie - 26 Jan 2008 19:55 GMT
> > > You can see the whole route on the map, you can alter it prior to
> > > heading out, or stop and alter it anywhere along the way. You can
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> Yeah, and you can do without any guidance at all by staying at home and posting
> useless crap on newsnet.

Ah, yes it is good to read such useful and well thought out
commentary.  Yes, you have provided a lot of insight into the question
of whether GPS is really worth several hundreds of dollars or not.
Rick Brandt - 26 Jan 2008 22:13 GMT
> Ah, yes it is good to read such useful and well thought out
> commentary.  Yes, you have provided a lot of insight into the question
> of whether GPS is really worth several hundreds of dollars or not.

Well thought out commentary?  Your position appears to be that unless a piece of
technology does something that cannot be done by other means then it is useless.
Why use a chainsaw when an axe can do the same job?  Why use a dishwasher if you
have a sink?

The safety-nannies of the world tell us not to use cellphones while we drive
(too distracting). also don't eat your cheesburger while you drive, or drink
anything, or listen to the stereo too loudly, etc..  Yet you want the driver to
mess with a fanfolded map and tiny print while driving and find zero benefit to
a device that provides better guidance without taking your hands off the wheel
or your eyes off the road.

Does your map tell you that there is a service station two intersections up and
one street over?  Does it tell you that there is an ATM machine coming up?  GPS
units do.  You can't think of any scenario where information like that would be
helpful?  If not for you perhaps for your child or spouse who might not have the
myriad of maps in the glove box and razor sharp map reading skills that you
obviously possess?
Roadie - 27 Jan 2008 00:24 GMT
> > Ah, yes it is good to read such useful and well thought out
> > commentary.  Yes, you have provided a lot of insight into the question
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> myriad of maps in the glove box and razor sharp map reading skills that you
> obviously possess?

As I said, thank you for your well thought out commentary.  Regarding
ATM machines knowing one is coming up is not particularly useful in
this day and age.  They are more common than stop signs.
Rick Brandt - 26 Jan 2008 00:25 GMT
> > Or the GPS planned trip that takes the driver through rather than
> > around a major urban area during rush hour.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> But that is the problem with satellite navigation - it is step by step
> turn here in one minute driving instructions.

Cheap ones maybe.  Mine lets me avoid roads or routes I want to avoid and picks
up live traffic alerts over the air and asks if I want to route around them.
 
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