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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / May 2008

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SRS light comes on - wipers and horn won't work

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Skonnie - 15 May 2008 01:26 GMT
When I start my '90 740 Turbo, the SRS will stay lit.  Perhaps
coincidentally, the radio, wipers and horn will not work while the SRS
light is lit.  I've figured out that by jiggling the key in the
ignition, the light will go off and that everything on the car works
fine after that.  Not a problem, right?  Unfortunately, the guy
inspecting my car considers this to be a problem.

I've cleared the fault codes as well as reset the Service light that
comes on upon starting (the service light still comes on), all to no
avail.  Someone a while back suggested my ignition switch as the
culprit.

Thoughts?
Chuck Fiedler - 15 May 2008 03:01 GMT
>When I start my '90 740 Turbo, the SRS will stay lit.  Perhaps
>coincidentally, the radio, wipers and horn will not work while the SRS
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>
>Thoughts?

And you didn't listen to that guy because..?

Methinks he was on to something.
Skonnie - 15 May 2008 03:04 GMT
> And you didn't listen to that guy because..?
>
> Methinks he was on to something.

Just looking for alternate (read: simpler and cheaper) theories.  In
particular, ones that don't involve me dismantling my dash.  Its
always worth a try, right?
Chuck Fiedler - 15 May 2008 03:41 GMT
>> And you didn't listen to that guy because..?
>>
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>particular, ones that don't involve me dismantling my dash.  Its
>always worth a try, right?

I'm guessing here but I *think* we're talking a disgusting amount
($~150) for the part and maybe an equal amount for a non-dealer
mechanic to do the work.

Do you have an independent mechanic who does Volvos? These ain't just
any mechanics.

Might want to let us know where you are and someone else here may know
a knowledgible mechanic to use.
James Sweet - 15 May 2008 04:04 GMT
>>> And you didn't listen to that guy because..?
>>>
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> Might want to let us know where you are and someone else here may know
> a knowledgible mechanic to use.

How about a junkyard part? Cheap, I don't think it's very hard to
replace. As I recall, the key lock portion is separate from the switch
portion.
Chuck Fiedler - 15 May 2008 11:05 GMT
>There is something that can be done about the traffic
>By Frank Greve | McClatchy Newspapers
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>    * |
>    * Digg it

>>>> And you didn't listen to that guy because..?
>>>>
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>replace. As I recall, the key lock portion is separate from the switch
>portion.

Two thoughts:

Not everyone is into going to junkyards and all that entails and then,
presumably doing the repair themselves, although there is much to be
said for, and saved by, doing this.

Also, IIRC, most cars have a lock (the part the key operates) and the
switch (electrical part that makes the car run) and they're seperable.
Could be wrong in this instance.

My advice remains to see a good mechanic with Volvo familiarity.
Chuck Fiedler - 15 May 2008 15:05 GMT
<Lengthy news article snipped>

Sorry for posting the news article. Human error.
Skonnie - 15 May 2008 19:36 GMT
Sounds like the consensus is that its the ignition switch.  Guess
that's my next project.

I'm in Austin, and there are three good shops here that I'd trust with
my Volvo.  However, I'm still going to try and replace it myself.
Found a used ignition switch for about $45.  I think I'm most freaked
by installing the switch, which involves drilling out two bolts or
cutting straight slots into the bolts for removal.  Would this be
necessary if I simply replace the switch?  According to my '82-'88
manual, the two bolts hold both the switch as well as the key lock
portion, so I'm guessing I have to remove both.
Skonnie - 15 May 2008 19:39 GMT
Almost forgot to ask - is there a any sort of test or diagnostic I can
run to see if the ignition switch is bad?
Chuck Fiedler - 15 May 2008 23:37 GMT
>Sounds like the consensus is that its the ignition switch.  Guess
>that's my next project.
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>manual, the two bolts hold both the switch as well as the key lock
>portion, so I'm guessing I have to remove both.

If you have a Haynes or other good manual and it says this is what's
necessary, I'd buy it as fact. I seem to recall this being the case.
If you slot-cut them, you can reuse them. If you drill them out (which
I would be disinclined to do), you would need to buy two new ones.

As for your second note, I don't know of any diagnostic test that will
isolate this matter. I am inclined to think this is the most likely
culprit and, if you can fix it for $45 and a little labor, it's
certainly not wasted.

You might check with Beasley Motors there in Austin to get a wrapped
price for the whole job. I have had very good luck with them. Of
course, they don't set parts prices but it's worth knowing what your
sweat is worth.
Skonnie - 16 May 2008 00:15 GMT
Never taken it to Beasley, but I've heard they are good sorts.
Phoenix and Vol-Tech have done work for me, both with good results.

Haynes does not mention having to cut slots in the bolts but Chilton
does.  Time to find a friend with a dremel tool.  Thanks for your
advice, it helped a great deal.
Chuck Fiedler - 16 May 2008 03:13 GMT
>Never taken it to Beasley, but I've heard they are good sorts.
>Phoenix and Vol-Tech have done work for me, both with good results.
>
>Haynes does not mention having to cut slots in the bolts but Chilton
>does.  Time to find a friend with a dremel tool.  Thanks for your
>advice, it helped a great deal.

Not living in Austin (I'm in Dallas), I'm not familiar with Phoenix
nor Vol-tech. Have ordered parts from Beasley since they were some
other name I can't recall. They give a VCOA discount and were much
cheaper, even with freight, than the Dallas folk. I see from the
latest issue of Rolling that Vol-tech also gives a VCOA discount.

Good luck and enjoy standing on your head. Oh yeah, wear goggles when
you do this. Metal shavings in the eye are kinda painful (don't ask
how I know).

Chuck Fiedler
Nothing but Volvo since 1974
James Sweet - 15 May 2008 03:18 GMT
>> When I start my '90 740 Turbo, the SRS will stay lit.  Perhaps
>> coincidentally, the radio, wipers and horn will not work while the SRS
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Methinks he was on to something.

Agreed, this can turn into a serious issue. I'd second suspecting the
ignition switch.
 
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