> This evening I removed the idle control unit. The valve inside was
> moving quite smoothly but I cleaned it up anyway. The electrical
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>> This evening I removed the idle control unit. The valve inside was
>> moving quite smoothly but I cleaned it up anyway. The electrical
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>- the ABS Control Unit is out of the car for repair, but I can't see
>this would have any impact.
Chris, I believe your computer had come to misread things due to the
corrosion you removed. By reinstalling it and simply restarting, the
computer said, "Hey something is different. Let me check this out."
After a short ride, it found where truth was and reset.
Interesting tip on a simple fix. Wanna bet the dealer had another,
higher price solution? I also tend to think that an independent
mechanic practiced in Volvos would have also come to your solution. He
doesn't have quite the same reinforcement contingencies a dealer has.
Chuck Fiedler
Nothing but Volvo since 1974
Oh, yeah, I finally got rid of my 1960 Austin Healey
> Update - at the weekend the high idle returned after we had been
> driving for about 5 km. I restarted the engine and it went back to
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> - the ABS Control Unit is out of the car for repair, but I can't see
> this would have any impact.
Further update. It is still idling irregularly. Sometimes 900rpm, then
it goes to 1400rpm. My initial view that it was the idle control valve
connections now appears prematurely optimistic. It has been suggested
to me that the front o2 sensor could be playing up. The car has
81,000miles on original o2 sensors. Could this cause a high idle? What
makes me a bit dubious though is the the check engine light is not
illuminated. I would have thought that a bad o2 sensor would have been
detected by the EMS and reported? Given the mileage, I am tempted to
replace the front o2 sensor as a matter of course as I understand they
have a max life or around 100,000miles anyway, and it seems like a 30
minute job. Any thoughts?
Chuck Fiedler - 16 Jul 2008 01:50 GMT
>> Update - at the weekend the high idle returned after we had been
>> driving for about 5 km. I restarted the engine and it went back to
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>have a max life or around 100,000miles anyway, and it seems like a 30
>minute job. Any thoughts?
I would give that a try. Actually, *I* would take it to my mechanic
who has all the diagnostic stuff and have him fix it but since you're
shooting in the dark, give that a try. It certainly can't hurt and
self-repair is cheaper than paying for it. Self-diagnosis OTOH, can be
rather expensive in the long run.
Walt Kienzle - 16 Jul 2008 16:52 GMT
>> Update - at the weekend the high idle returned after we had been
>> driving for about 5 km. I restarted the engine and it went back to
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> have a max life or around 100,000miles anyway, and it seems like a 30
> minute job. Any thoughts?
While the O2 sensor may be weak (Bosch recommends 60,000 mile replacement
intervals. But keep in mind they are the primary manufacturer of this
costly product), I don't think it is the source of your problem. I agree
that a substantial O2 sensor problem would trigger the check engine light if
that was the primary cause. Also, the O2 sensor affects fuel mixture (and
fuel economy) more than having to do with erratic idle speed. From your
latest update/description, it is more likely that you have a
cracked/intermittently disconnected vacuum line somewhere that is playing
havoc with your idle speed. This is something you can check yourself
because parts are very cheap (snip the end off a hose and reconnect to
verify the problem), but very labor intensive. Professionals charge dearly
for their time and don't always do a thorough job when it is this boring.
Don't confuse/misconnect the hoses. That is when the professionals charge
the really high labor rate to correct an amateur's mistake.
Chuck Fiedler - 16 Jul 2008 21:15 GMT
Walt Kienzle?! Is this the Walt Kienzle who used ot be in Minneapolis
who I would take my 544 to for miraculous cures?
If so, where are you now?
Please email me with particulars.
Chuck Fiedler
Nothing but Volvo since 1974
Walt Kienzle - 17 Jul 2008 02:25 GMT
> Walt Kienzle?! Is this the Walt Kienzle who used ot be in Minneapolis
> who I would take my 544 to for miraculous cures?
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> Chuck Fiedler
> Nothing but Volvo since 1974
Sorry, not the same Walt Kienzle (there are two of me??).
Chuck Fiedler - 17 Jul 2008 11:15 GMT
>> Walt Kienzle?! Is this the Walt Kienzle who used ot be in Minneapolis
>> who I would take my 544 to for miraculous cures?
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>Sorry, not the same Walt Kienzle (there are two of me??).
I don't know if there are two of you but I knew a Walt Kienzle thirty
years ago and my father did his bookwork. He was a wizard at fixing
Volvos. I heard he had moved to the Dallas area long after i had.
I sorta figgered there are a limited number of folks named Walt
Kienzle and if you filter it through Volvo, you'd get a pretty small
set of hits.
Sorry if I hit the wrong guy but glad to make your acquaintance.
Chuck Fiedler
Nothing but Volvo since 1974
Chris - 17 Jul 2008 01:02 GMT
it is more likely that you have a
> cracked/intermittently disconnected vacuum line somewhere that is playing
> havoc with your idle speed. This is something you can check yourself
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I did a quick check of all the vacuum hoses when the problem first
mainfested - could not see enything wrong, but I shall do a more
thorough check as you suggest. Even though it is 12 yrs old all the
hoses were surprisingly supple. They did not seem to have hardened/
cracked with age and heat. Thanks