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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / March 2004

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'89 245

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Jeff Townsend - 29 Mar 2004 17:54 GMT
So far this group has been very helpful in helping me maintain my 245.
Thank you.

New question.

The wires in the tailgate hinges on both sides are broken, either due to
wear, or cut by previous owner.

These appear to supply power to the third brake light, defroster, and
wiper motor.

Of these, I need the 3rd brake light for state vehicle inspection.

How does the hinge come apart, so as to access the wires I need to
splice?

Thnx
Grahame Hunt - 30 Mar 2004 12:02 GMT
Jeff,
The best way is to convert it to the same as a 92 model that has an
external loop.
It will mean drilling a hole in the frame to run the wires through.
It is a better system
I have done it to my 85 wagon and have had no more problems.
Have a look at a 92 or later model and you will see what I mean.
Hope this is a help.
Grahame.
1985 240GL SW
1979 245L

> So far this group has been very helpful in helping me maintain my 245.
> Thank you.
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> Thnx
brackenburn - 30 Mar 2004 21:19 GMT
Hi Grahame,

Your reference to an "external loop" for the tailgate harness in '92 or
later 245 models intrigues me.  I have one of the last of the '93 models
(the "Classic" limited edition), and it still has the wiring passing through
the hinges.  Incidentally, the harness has had to be replaced twice.  Seems
it has a life of five years.........

Andy I.

> Jeff,
> The best way is to convert it to the same as a 92 model that has an
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> > Thnx
Grahame Hunt - 31 Mar 2004 11:36 GMT
To the group,
In Australia we have the loop that carries the wires.
After some investigation today I found that it was in
all 240 SW after 1988.
It was done by Volvo at the factory because there
was so much trouble with the wires in the hinges.
It is a better system and should last a lot longer.
Grahame.

> Hi Grahame,
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> > > Thnx
brackenburn - 31 Mar 2004 19:36 GMT
Hi Grahame,

Only in Austrailia, eh??

Andy I. (Canada)

> To the group,
> In Australia we have the loop that carries the wires.
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> > > > Thnx
Mike F - 30 Mar 2004 14:41 GMT
> So far this group has been very helpful in helping me maintain my 245.
> Thank you.
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>
> Thnx

Well, there's no need for anyone to cut those wires, they break fast
enough on their own.  You need to remove the hinges to fix this problem.

First, this is hard to describe, but quite easy to do - pull back on the
head liner - stretch it about 1/2" and it will come out of its track -
start about 6" from the corner.  Then remove the inner trim panel on the
tailgate.

Then you need a helper or a 2x4 that is cut to the correct length to
support the tailgate.  I also put a piece of panelling between the front
edge of the tailgate and roof.  Remove the 2 bolts from underneath the
roof, and the 2 from the tailgate side.  One of the tailgate bolts is
parallel to the roof bolts, the other is perpendicular.

You may be able to splice the wires, and put a new section in the hinge
where it flexes, but these wire harnesses are available new quite cheap.

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Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

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Gary Heston - 31 Mar 2004 04:01 GMT
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>Then you need a helper or a 2x4 that is cut to the correct length to
>support the tailgate.  I also put a piece of panelling between the front
>edge of the tailgate and roof.  Remove the 2 bolts from underneath the
>roof, and the 2 from the tailgate side.  One of the tailgate bolts is
>parallel to the roof bolts, the other is perpendicular.

>You may be able to splice the wires, and put a new section in the hinge
>where it flexes, but these wire harnesses are available new quite cheap.

Presumably, you do one hinge at a time?

Is this the same basic procedure to use on a 145? I can see at least
one broken wire in a hinge on my '72.

Gary

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Gary Heston  gheston@hiwaay.net

Contrary to popular opinion, _not_ everyone loves Raymond.

James Sweet - 31 Mar 2004 09:14 GMT
> Presumably, you do one hinge at a time?
>
> Is this the same basic procedure to use on a 145? I can see at least
> one broken wire in a hinge on my '72.
>
> Gary

I've always done both at a time, taking the entire tailgate off in the
process. I mark the hinge alignments on the body with a dry erase marker.
Mike F - 31 Mar 2004 15:16 GMT
> Presumably, you do one hinge at a time?
>
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>
> Contrary to popular opinion, _not_ everyone loves Raymond.

Yes, one hinge at a time.  The 145 is exactly the same setup as the 245
(actually since the 145 came first it should be said the other way
around).

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Mike F.
Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

NOTE:  new address!!
Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly.
(But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.)

 
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