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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / June 2004

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Carbon cleaning - regular service item ?

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Half a Bee - 06 Apr 2004 15:30 GMT
I recently had my V70 serviced and was told that the car hadn't had a
"carbon clean" in 2 years and it was time to get it done.  By "carbon
clean" I understand that they meant fuel injector and valve cleaning,
probably by flushing a de-gumming agent through the system.  At AUD$160
(about US$120 or GBP70) I thought - "ouch... next time", especially as
the car seems to be running smoothly.

Does anyone else's authorised Volvo agent offer this as a regular
service ?  Or has mine found yet another way to extract extra cash?

Is it as simple as adding an STP/Wynns/3M product to the fuel tank, or
do they do something more special (as I would hope for $160).  If there
IS a Volvo-approved additive that can accomplish this, what is it and
where can I get it?

Or next service, should I just fork out an extra $160 ?

Chris
Stephen M. Henning - 06 Apr 2004 19:04 GMT
> I recently had my V70 serviced and was told that the car hadn't had a
> "carbon clean" in 2 years and it was time to get it done.  By "carbon
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> IS a Volvo-approved additive that can accomplish this, what is it and
> where can I get it?

I think your dealer has found a cash extraction technique.  Many garages
have a carbon cleaning technique that is inserted into the spark plug
holes and uses finely ground walnut shells to essentially grit blast the
carbon off the valves and seats. Then when you start the engine the
walnut shells burn up.  It works, but if you don't need it, it is a
waste of money.

If you aren't experiencing any bad symptoms, the Chevron product
"Techron" is the best additive to keep the engine from carboning up.  It
will even clean up an engine that is carboned up.  Chevron gas has
Techron in it.  Most good stores sell it as an additive.

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Chris Vernon - 07 Apr 2004 11:05 GMT
Thanks Stephen.  Since it's running well, my reaction was "do nothing".

I tend to buy only premium fuel with de-gumming agents anyway (only a
dollar or two more when you fill up, so who's counting).  I'm sure that
the Caltex premium product here (a Chevron company, I think) contains
Techron, although Shell 98 octane is the usual drink.

Chris

>>I recently had my V70 serviced and was told that the car hadn't had a
>>"carbon clean" in 2 years and it was time to get it done.  By "carbon
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> will even clean up an engine that is carboned up.  Chevron gas has
> Techron in it.  Most good stores sell it as an additive.
Nobody - 08 Apr 2004 04:25 GMT
Chris

Who is the dealer?

Jose
(Melbourne)

> Thanks Stephen.  Since it's running well, my reaction was "do nothing".
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > will even clean up an engine that is carboned up.  Chevron gas has
> > Techron in it.  Most good stores sell it as an additive.
Half a Bee - 08 Apr 2004 11:11 GMT
Norsk, in Perth.

> Chris
>
> Who is the dealer?
>
> Jose
> (Melbourne)
Nobody - 13 Apr 2004 01:32 GMT
Thanks

Jose

> Norsk, in Perth.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> > Jose
> > (Melbourne)
John Robertson - 14 Apr 2004 12:47 GMT
use a good fuel system cleaner any thing else is a con job keep using 98
octane too I was told by carson and murphy to use 1 litre of diesel in a
tank as it cleans the injectors
> Thanks Stephen.  Since it's running well, my reaction was "do nothing".
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> > will even clean up an engine that is carboned up.  Chevron gas has
> > Techron in it.  Most good stores sell it as an additive.
nobody@nowhere.it - 28 Jun 2004 22:09 GMT
But as far as the catalytic converter is concerned, it's just like
burning an extra quart of oil.  That will make yor converter
inoperative in half the time or less. It's a bogus claim either
way whether or not your car has a converter.  

> use a good fuel system cleaner any thing else is a con job keep using 98
> octane too I was told by carson and murphy to use 1 litre of diesel in a
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> > > will even clean up an engine that is carboned up.  Chevron gas has
> > > Techron in it.  Most good stores sell it as an additive.
 
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