>Considering that a rather large percentage of American high shcool
>students can't find the United States on a globe, I'd say that helpful
>specifications like that are indeed necessary.
I agree with that.
>When you're dealing
>with the citizens of a country where tax cuts have higher priority
>than education, small words are needed.
So, throwing more money at education will make it better? Money is not the
problem. Public education is at present a huge monopoly.
How about a voucher system, so parents can send their kids to the schools they
believe will do their kids the most good?
As it is, the NEA has total control. Give parents more control, and market
demands will improve education, and likely reduce costs as well.
KennyH
Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
GC - 15 May 2004 13:28 GMT
The state I live in now spends about 7K per student. Our state is
consistently in the lower 1/3 of the national scores, and has more teachers
that cannot (or will not) properly conjugate verbs in everyday conversation
than I have ever encountered. Therefore I have a self-induced education tax
and send my kids to a private school. They are challenged to succeed and
excel and do their best work. If they meet the stated goals then they are
challenged further.
The ones that cannot keep up get additional attention until they either
catch up or leave. I saw that this year with one of my child's classmates.
It is very simple: expectations are high and consistent. The ones that can
do the work do it and stay; the ones that cannot or will not do not stay. It
doesn't mean one group is better than the other or worse than the other -
some people are just better at some things than others. In this case it is
education, in other cases it may be sports, in other cases it is the ability
to dig foundations, in yet other cases it may be the ability to create,
grow, then sell a successfull business. Everyone is different and all have
value, just different types.
GC
> >Considering that a rather large percentage of American high shcool
> >students can't find the United States on a globe, I'd say that helpful
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>
> Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
mccaldwell - 15 May 2004 14:39 GMT
> >Considering that a rather large percentage of American high shcool
> >students can't find the United States on a globe, I'd say that helpful
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>
> Horsepower is cheaper than therapy.
Sure it will. And "Saddam has WMD", "we know where they are",
"trying to buy yellow cake", "aluminum tubes proof of a reconstituted
'nucular' program", "have found mobile weapons labs", "will be
welcomed with flowers", "oil revenue will pay for reconstruction",
"a few bad apples", etc., etc.. Some will believe anything.
Horespower may be cheaper, but doesn't always do the trick!
Tim McNamara - 16 May 2004 01:36 GMT
>>Considering that a rather large percentage of American high shcool
>>students can't find the United States on a globe, I'd say that
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> So, throwing more money at education will make it better? Money is
> not the problem. Public education is at present a huge monopoly.
ROTFL.
> How about a voucher system, so parents can send their kids to the
> schools they believe will do their kids the most good?
Sorry. Separation of church and state.
> As it is, the NEA has total control. Give parents more control, and
> market demands will improve education, and likely reduce costs as
> well.
Parental control is part of the problem rather than part of the
solution, unfortunately.
Graefaxe - 16 May 2004 10:05 GMT
>>>Considering that a rather large percentage of American high shcool
>>>students can't find the United States on a globe, I'd say that
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> Parental control is part of the problem rather than part of the
> solution, unfortunately.
God, yes! Ever been to a school board meeting where they are discussing
textbooks? It's an absolute joke. Just give the decision to an expert,
don;t let a committee decide. You end up with pablum that we are then
afraid to make our children learn. And don;t get me started on
Standards of Learning. Teachers are now required to "teach to the
test", and not teach the subject.
Let the teachers do their jobs, keep government interference out, and
get parents involved the right way. Like it was, oh, so many years ago.
Islandguy77554 - 16 May 2004 14:59 GMT
now what was the original post ?
Bev A. Kupf - 16 May 2004 15:03 GMT
> now what was the original post ?
Memory says someone in Oregon had a nice '92 240 for sale
for around $7K. Mileage was about 60K.

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