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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / June 2004Is VOLVO's XC90 SUV based on any one of GM's SUV body styles?
Is VOLVO's XC90 SUV based on any one of GM's SUV body styles? I might be mistaken- but I 'saw' a few vehicles that look very very similar to the XC90? Any opinions? Not at all. The XC90 was the first vehicle approved of when Ford took over, but the design work was still all Volvo. Don't think Volvo ever had connections with GM... If you want to see a Swedish SUV that is based on a GM vehicle look at the upcoming Saab 9-7, it's based on the Trailblazer. The XC90 is designed to compete with the BMW X-5, Mercedes M320, VW Touareg V6, Smaller Range Rovers... those types of cars, GM doesn't really have anything like these ones, at least not directly competitive, as far as I can remember (maybe the Buick Rainier - but I don't think they measure up in refinement, as per usual) > Is VOLVO's XC90 SUV based on any one of GM's SUV body styles? I might be > mistaken- but I 'saw' a few vehicles that look very very similar to the > XC90? Any opinions? >Don't think Volvo ever had connections with GM... Read somewhere that the original S80's tranny came from GM. Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. That inline 6 engine has been using GM trannys for a while, I believe the transmission in my 960 is a GM unit as well (the 960 engine was the original design of what was transformed into the modern 2.9L and 2.9L bi-turbo engine). > >Don't think Volvo ever had connections with GM... > > Read somewhere that the original S80's tranny came from GM. >Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM >has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >design of what was transformed into the modern 2.9L and 2.9L bi-turbo >engine). That's too bad. We have a Blazer with the 700R4 tranny, and I don't think much of it at all They are good for about 100,000-125,000 miles or so and that's about it.. At least in my experience. One of the reasons we ruled out purchasing another GM product and ended up with the Volvo. __ __ Randy & \ \/ /alerie's \__/olvo '93 960 Estate Volvo speced out the tranny tho, I wouldn't be too worried. I've never heard of a tranny problem on a 960. I mean if BMW and Volvo are buying them, they've got to be good - GM's tranny division is just a supplier, they get told what to build... Doesn't mean that can't make a good product, just GM usually skimps on everything when they build a car. > >Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM > >has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > \__/olvo > '93 960 Estate > Volvo speced out the tranny tho, I wouldn't be too worried. I've never heard > of a tranny problem on a 960. I mean if BMW and Volvo are buying them, > they've got to be good - GM's tranny division is just a supplier, they get > told what to build... Doesn't mean that can't make a good product, just GM > usually skimps on everything when they build a car. > <Randy G.> wrote in message Volvo is buying a pretty much off the shelf GM design. Don't be so sure about your assumptions. John > >Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM > >has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > \__/olvo > '93 960 Estate Don't worry, your 960 (and every other 960) don't use a GM transmission. All 960 inline 6 cylinder engines use the Asian Warner transmission. (So do 850s, but they've proven to be not a reliable as the rear drive versions.)  SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. NOTE: new address!! Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) Yah, sorry about the incorrect information... I don't know where I got it in my head that there was a GM tranny in the 960's - maybe I read it from an inaccurate source. Just checked the manual, and its a AW 30/4. > > >Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM > > >has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > transmission. (So do 850s, but they've proven to be not a reliable as > the rear drive versions.) > Yes it did... BMW also buys trannys from GM (some of it's automatics). GM > has quite a good spinoff company that makes transmissions. It isn't a spinoff company, it is an entirely GM owned, operated and managed division called GM Powertrain. It's main mission is sourcing engines and transmissions for GM vehicles, but has also sold transmissions to other companies for many decades. Jaguar and Rolls Royce, for example, used GM Turbo Hydramatics for years. John But Volvo is now owned by Ford. So why are they using GM parts? Walter Wise > But Volvo is now owned by Ford. So why are they using GM parts? > Walter Wise How the heck would I know. Ask Volvo or Ford! John So- Is the Volvo SUV's body based off a FORD SUV? > >Don't think Volvo ever had connections with GM... > > Read somewhere that the original S80's tranny came from GM. > So- Is the Volvo SUV's body based off a FORD SUV? > > > >Don't think Volvo ever had connections with GM... > > > > Read somewhere that the original S80's tranny came from GM. No, it's based on Volvo's car platform, S80 etc. And the S80 T6 transmission is indeed the GM 4T65LE. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the XC90 T6 transmission is also the same GM transmission, modified for the power takeoff to the rear wheels. SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. NOTE: new address!! Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > Is VOLVO's XC90 SUV based on any one of GM's SUV body styles? I might be > mistaken- but I 'saw' a few vehicles that look very very similar to the > XC90? Any opinions? No, not in any direct way. Ford owns Volvo. John >> Is VOLVO's XC90 SUV based on any one of GM's SUV body styles? I might be >> mistaken- but I 'saw' a few vehicles that look very very similar to the >> XC90? Any opinions It's Saab that has a GM Based SUV coming out soon. |
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