> Hi,
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>Any comments or comparisons welcome.
They are certainly selling. Little hope of any discount and probably
a waiting list. I'm a Land Rover man at heart, so I find the XC90 a
bit soft (and horribly ugly) but it's very nicely put together and the
seating is neat.

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AB - 25 Sep 2004 09:25 GMT
Not an awful lot of leg room for the 6th and 7th seats, but enough for a
small adult for moderately long journeys I suspect.
Boot space is naturally greatly reduced in 7-seat mode.
I have a lot of respect for LandRovers, which are justifiably considered
excellent workhorses, but to hear the XC90 described as "horribly ugly"
in comparison defies belief!!!!!
It is a beatiful car, and attracts positive looks and comments, which is
not often the case with LRs.
AB
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> bit soft (and horribly ugly) but it's very nicely put together and the
> seating is neat.
Small Mammal - 25 Sep 2004 12:51 GMT
I thought Land Rovers are piece of sh.t, that's why their parent company
Ford has
given them an ultimatum to improve on their quality control.
> Not an awful lot of leg room for the 6th and 7th seats, but enough for a
> small adult for moderately long journeys I suspect.
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>> bit soft (and horribly ugly) but it's very nicely put together and the
>> seating is neat.
Keith Barrett - 25 Sep 2004 16:54 GMT
> > Hi,
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> bit soft (and horribly ugly) but it's very nicely put together and the
> seating is neat.
Thanks Tim
So, could I get 7 passengers in a landrover and take them on a long run
without too many complaints? Are they reliable these days? I knew
someone who had one some years ago and he spent more time repairing it
than he did driving it, then the rust got it and it fell to bits. That
said, I can see the attraction towards them but work does not permit
extensive repair and care time.

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Tim Hobbs - 05 Oct 2004 21:50 GMT
>So, could I get 7 passengers in a landrover and take them on a long run
>without too many complaints? Are they reliable these days? I knew
>someone who had one some years ago and he spent more time repairing it
>than he did driving it, then the rust got it and it fell to bits. That
>said, I can see the attraction towards them but work does not permit
>extensive repair and care time.
I often did with my Discovery. Reliability in recent years has
improved drastically and there aren't many horror stories with the
Series 2 Discovery. The Series 1 had various 'issues', but would do
minor miracles off-road. The engines in some recent Land Rovers were
terribly unreliable - the P38 Range Rover and 1.8 Freelander were
disgracefully poor in that respect.
They are very different to 'normal' cars, and if you don't like taking
cars to bits and saying a little prayer every time you get in then you
shouldn't really get one! The new Discovery is fantastic (my company
was a supplier to the production line) but I wouldn't buy the first
model year of any car from any manufacturer - just a fact of life that
the second models are always slightly improved in key areas as the
manufacturer learns from warranty claims.

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>Just wondering how much room there is in the passenger compartment as
>compared with other 7 seaters.
I believe the third row is officially for children or small adults.
The salesmen have told me that the third row is not something you'd
want even a small adult (or a large child, e.g. teenager?) in for any
sort of long trip. There certainly doesn't appear to be any proper
legroom.
This is the impression I get from the Honda Pilot too.
Of course I haven't tried it since I don't need 7 seats.
andrew [awebber@wwwebbers.com]

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MACampbel - 27 Sep 2004 14:45 GMT
I believe Saab is about to release a version of the GMC Envoy/Chevy
Trailblazer. The long wheelbase version of those vehicles have very good 3rd
row seat room.
Supposed to be a nicer version of the basic GMC platform, much like they
recently reworked the Subaru WRX.
Not sure if they'll sell it in the UK however.
Do any of the full sized US built SUVs sell in Europe? I'd guess the fuel
economy (lack thereof) would make them a poor choice for EU markets, but the
3rd row seating is impressive.