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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / November 2004V70 cupholder
Minor niggle, but the mechanism that lets you adjust the width of the jaws has failed, so it's always wide open. It's been like that for a while (since I got the car in fact) but I've lived with it until the next service. Next service is on Monday. Apparently Volvo aren't replacing them under warranty, and they are hard to get hold off because people are breaking so many. I can feel a crusade coming on! If they are all breaking then there is a design fault and I am not going to pay £17 for a new one. So, anyone else had this problem and is the new cupholder any better? I'll get the new one fitted on Monday (if they can get hold of one) and then fight for my money back. Surely Volvo aren't going to piss off people who buy £30,000 cars for a cheap bit of plastic?  SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com > So, anyone else had this problem and is the new cupholder any better? My '01 XC70 doesn't have this problem so I have never seen a "new cupholder". SignaturePardon my spam deterrent; send email to rhodyman@earthlink.net Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '02 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '02 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html your dealer is full of ^%$#...it is a warranty item, tell your dealer you are filing a complaint w/volvo inc and the consumer protection agency your country uses...they (the dealer) are trying to nickle and dime you...imho... > Minor niggle, but the mechanism that lets you adjust the width of the > jaws has failed, so it's always wide open. It's been like that for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and then fight for my money back. Surely Volvo aren't going to piss > off people who buy £30,000 cars for a cheap bit of plastic? On 20 Oct 2004 11:25:41 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter ~^) wrote: >your dealer is full of ^%$#...it is a warranty item, tell your dealer >you are filing a complaint w/volvo inc and the consumer protection >agency your country uses...they (the dealer) are trying to nickle and >dime you...imho... My thoughts exactly. But I'd rather argue with the organ grinder, so let's see if they back down and how quickly! SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com Tim...make sure you "share with the group" the name of the volvo dealer service center and location. I would also share w/the service advisor your participation on the volvo newsgroup...and our sincier interest in how the dealer resolves your problem....I myself am willing to cross them off my list when i go to order my 2004 s70r.....That should hit one of "their buttons"... > On 20 Oct 2004 11:25:41 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter > ~^) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > My thoughts exactly. But I'd rather argue with the organ grinder, so > let's see if they back down and how quickly! There is no reason the Dealer shouldn't replace the cup holder under warrenty unless there is signs of obvious abuse. Or unless this is your second or third cup holder. >Minor niggle, but the mechanism that lets you adjust the width of the >jaws has failed, so it's always wide open. It's been like that for a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and then fight for my money back. Surely Volvo aren't going to piss >off people who buy £30,000 cars for a cheap bit of plastic? Well, there are apparently no cupholders to be had in the UK at the moment. They do seem to have backed away from the 'not under warranty' silliness, but I reckon I'm going to have to chase them up a bit. Service was good - 24K for £195. Car was fully cleaned inside and out and they also fixed a slow puncture I didn't know about. The usual dealer wheeze of finding split wiper blades and other minor consumables to fix didn't happen either. I reported an intermittent issue with the gearbox getting confused and slipping into neutral for a couple of seconds in the low gears. There is apparently a bulletin for this and some new software has been loaded. Thus far, no repeat of the problem, but it's early days. SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com any dealer thinking straight will remove a cup holder from a volvo on its lot and put it in yours.......sheezzee...not brain surgery here.....what is the name of the dealer? > >Minor niggle, but the mechanism that lets you adjust the width of the > >jaws has failed, so it's always wide open. It's been like that for a [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > is apparently a bulletin for this and some new software has been > loaded. Thus far, no repeat of the problem, but it's early days. On 26 Oct 2004 10:55:43 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter ~^) wrote: >any dealer thinking straight will remove a cup holder from a volvo on >its lot and put it in yours.......sheezzee...not brain surgery >here.....what is the name of the dealer? It's the Barnsley dealership in South Yorkshire. I'm not pissed off with them (yet) - I haven't made a big deal out of it because frankly it isn't. They've been fine in other respects, so I'm not going to slate them too badly yet. I wouldn't expect them to compromise a car on sale for mine, but at some stage I will suggest that one of their fleet cars could do without a cupholder for a few weeks... SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com > On 26 Oct 2004 10:55:43 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter > ~^) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > on sale for mine, but at some stage I will suggest that one of their > fleet cars could do without a cupholder for a few weeks... Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? >Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? I put cups in mine... SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com uhhh....to put cups in...... > Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? On 27 Oct 2004 16:30:57 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter ~^) wrote: >> Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? >uhhh....to put cups in...... I'm with Geoff here. In all the hundreds of thousands of miles I've spent in cars, I've never once found that I need something to put cups in. I find it hard to think of anything less useful in a car, but judging by the number of posts we get in here about them, some people find them indispensible. Presumably they are meant for people whose lives are so rushed that they have to leave for work before they've finished their breakfast. How does the contents not get spilled during cornering or braking? Given that in the UK it is now illegal to use a hand held mobile phone whilst driving, I can see our current administration getting ready to ban cups, too. Maybe next year's model will have a little sink and a plate rack, too. SignatureStewart Hargrave For email, replace 'SpamOnlyToHere' with my name [Stewart Hargrave] (Thu, 28 Oct 2004 01:21:12 +0100): >Presumably they are meant for people whose lives are so rushed that >they have to leave for work before they've finished their breakfast. >How does the contents not get spilled during cornering or braking? There are cups with lids, you know.. And I would use it to keep a bottle of water.. with a screw-on cap.. SignatureSvein Tore Sølvik 1996 Volvo 850 2,5 20v Svein Tore S?lvik <news@shaz.org> wrote: > There are cups with lids, you know.. Yea, they are call "sippy cups." > Presumably they are meant for people whose lives are so rushed that > they have to leave for work before they've finished their breakfast. I rather like having a cupholder in a car myself when I have several hours of driving to do. A cup of coffee is nice after a few hours of staring at the road. These days, I rarely have to drive more than four hours or so, but not so many years ago I was making 16-hour trips several times a year. Stopping every time I wanted something to drink would have made them 20-hour trips. > How does the contents not get spilled during cornering or braking? Lids. > Given that in the UK it is now illegal to use a hand held mobile phone > whilst driving, I can see our current administration getting ready to > ban cups, too. There are areas in the US which have banned eating and drinking while driving. It doesn't seem to have reduced the practice any. SignatureMichael Wojcik michael.wojcik@microfocus.com Be sure to push the button of the bottom, and push the button of the settlement page indicated next only once, there is fear of the bottom rhinoceros multiplex lesson money. -- Sukebe Net > A cup of coffee is nice after a few hours of > staring at the road. So is stopping and walking around the car and taking a whiz. >> A cup of coffee is nice after a few hours of >> staring at the road. > >So is stopping and walking around the car and taking a whiz. I find that stains the alloys somewhat, and is a very bad idea in high winds... SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com > I find that stains the alloys somewhat, and is a very bad idea in high > winds... Then don't do that. Do something else. >>> A cup of coffee is nice after a few hours of >>>staring at the road. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I find that stains the alloys somewhat, and is a very bad idea in high > winds... But only if you are facing into the wind. There's an old saying about that... maybe the saying even warrants proverb status :) > > A cup of coffee is nice after a few hours of staring at the road. > > So is stopping and walking around the car and taking a whiz. As I noted in my previous post, in a part you snipped, stopping every couple of hours would have made a 16-hour trip a 20-hour one. Perhaps you have that luxury; it is not universal. SignatureMichael Wojcik michael.wojcik@microfocus.com Unfortunately, as a software professional, tradition requires me to spend New Years Eve drinking alone, playing video games and sobbing uncontrollably. -- Peter Johnson >On 27 Oct 2004 16:30:57 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter >~^) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >judging by the number of posts we get in here about them, some people >find them indispensible. I use them all the time. - Seth Jackson Songwriting & Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net I find cupholders quite handy. My 945TG has 4 cupholders, and all were used this evening (2 coffees and 2 kids juices) on the way to a basketball game. My Expedition 4x4 has 8, and all get exercised regularly, with either a drink or cellphone or the remote for the TV/VCR/DVD, etc. >>On 27 Oct 2004 16:30:57 -0700, richbonilla@yahoo.com (~^ beancounter >>~^) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Songwriting & Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net > Presumably they are meant for people whose lives are so rushed that > they have to leave for work before they've finished their breakfast. > How does the contents not get spilled during cornering or braking? The "rushed" (disorganized?) people are probably the target market. Personally I like having somewhere to put a drink on an hours long drive. There are a lot of very straight, boring roads in the US, where, shall we say, less than one's complete and full attention is required to safely operate a car. In the big scheme of things, the speed limits are not all that high over here (vary from 55-75 mph). About the only roads I have seen in the UK were two lanes from the inside of a bus - this would be a good time to pay attention to one's driving. I don't know how your fast highways compare to ours, or of course, how your experience compares to mine. > Given that in the UK it is now illegal to use a hand held mobile phone > whilst driving, I can see our current administration getting ready to > ban cups, too. Hands-free mobile phones are billed as safer over here. My opinion is they probably aren't any less distracting, and those who crash using a cellphone would probably get distracted playing with the car radio or something else if they didn't have a phone. > Maybe next year's model will have a little sink and a plate rack, too. Heheh... :) Are DVD players a hit in family vehicles over there? They are increasingly common over here. Why discipline your children and make them behave when they can be tranquilized by expensive electronics, right? </sarcasm> > About the only roads I have seen in the UK were two lanes from the > inside of a bus - this would be a good time to pay attention to one's > driving. I don't know how your fast highways compare to ours, or of > course, how your experience compares to mine. The UK motorways I've seen - around London and in Kent (I've driven to Cumbria, but that was nearly 20 years ago) - are mostly three lanes of travel in each direction, with moderate to heavy traffic including regular jams at peak commuting times, speed limit typically 75 MPH (is this true everywhere?) but with considerable variation in actual vehicle speeds, moderately aggressive driving. They remind me of Route 128 around Boston (which is not as bad as it's reputed to be, IMO). Of course, it's not as common in the UK as it is here to set off on a 16-hour drive. And I don't know if there's any stretch of road there that compares to, say, I-80 through Nebraska for sheer dullness. SignatureMichael Wojcik michael.wojcik@microfocus.com The surface of the word "profession" is hard and rough, the inside mixed with poison. It's this that prevents me crossing over. And what is there on the other side? Only what people longingly refer to as "the other side". -- Tawada Yoko (trans. Margaret Mitsutani) >> About the only roads I have seen in the UK were two lanes from the >> inside of a bus - this would be a good time to pay attention to one's [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >16-hour drive. And I don't know if there's any stretch of road there >that compares to, say, I-80 through Nebraska for sheer dullness. Universal motorway speed limit is 70mph, nowhere is higher than that. Lots of urban motorway sections have local 50mph limits. At peak times it is generally hard to cruise at all, which makes autos a major bonus. Lots of times you just shuffle along between 0 and 30mph. At quiet times it is easy to set the cruise at 85. You will be overtaken by cars doing well over 100. Quality of motorway driving varies from quite good (early morning, late evening) to dreadful (rush hours, weekends). It's noticeable when the 'professional drivers' are out as opposed to weekend drivers and white-van-man. SignatureTim Hobbs '58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig" '77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt" '03 Volvo V70 My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com > > Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? > > uhhh....to put cups in...... Isn't that what bras are for?!?! > > > Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? > > > > uhhh....to put cups in...... > > Isn't that what bras are for?!?! No, those are for jugs...! Tim.. when possible, i like to use my hands for holding those... > > > > Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? > > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tim.. bras are like coffee cups no good unless there is something in them . BIG ONES LITTLE ONES WHO CARES OH AND I LOVE MY COFFEE ! >> > > Why would anyone want a cupholder in a car? >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Tim.. |
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