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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / November 2004

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Bengt - 23 Nov 2004 17:51 GMT
After reading this group for a while, it seems to me that most of you are
interested in performing cheap, Mickey Mouse repairs on your cars and, failing
at that, trying to rip off your dealer or mechanic and then complain to the
group about high parts and repair prices.  You style yourselves as Volvo
mavens--didn't you know that Volvo repair is an expensive proposition when you
bought the car?  The Volvos you keep running with Wal-Mart parts, duct tape
and super glue are no longer Volvos, they are a disgrace and should be taken
to the nearest junk yard.
ps - 23 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
> After reading this group for a while, it seems to me that most of you are
> interested in performing cheap, Mickey Mouse repairs on your cars and, failing
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> and super glue are no longer Volvos, they are a disgrace and should be taken
> to the nearest junk yard.
Byrocat - 24 Nov 2004 17:53 GMT
Well, you can certainly tell the trolls in this forum.

Probably got a pile of money from Mommie and Daddie-kins and are
wasting it on fast cars and faster girls...

Nah, probably some pimply-faced teenager trying to score big points by
aggravating strangers.

One day, they'll poke a stick at some German Shepherd and find out why
they were used to hunt wolves....

Non carborundum illegitimi....
Bengt - 24 Nov 2004 18:36 GMT
| Well, you can certainly tell the trolls in this forum.
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| Non carborundum illegitimi....

I am devastated by your Oscar Wilde-like wit.

I received no money from my parents.  However, I made my own money and will
leave a pile of it to my children.  I buy my own Volvos and even pay for the
maintenance, which, in your eyes makes me a "troll" in this august group.  And
the Latin phrase (along with the correct spelling) you were searching for was
this:  Illegtimati non te tum carborundum.
JanLukas - 24 Nov 2004 21:42 GMT
Bengt,

I think Youre completly wright.
Do's who write on this group don't deserve driving a bautiful car as a
Volvo.
These are a discrase for the real Volvo drivers who know what they bougth,
and are willing to pay the fair price for maintenance at a dealer so that
there Volvo's are staying in good shape.

> | Well, you can certainly tell the trolls in this forum.
> |
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> the Latin phrase (along with the correct spelling) you were searching for was
> this:  Illegtimati non te tum carborundum.
Bengt - 24 Nov 2004 23:24 GMT
Res ipsa loquitur.

| Bengt,
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| was
| > this:  Illegtimati non te tum carborundum.
blurp - 26 Nov 2004 19:29 GMT
You're the dealer's best friend: you trust them and pay what they ask
unquestioningly, even if, as can be attested by members of this group,
your life may be endangered by their carelessness.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

You don't.

I will.
blurp

>Res ipsa loquitur.
>
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>| was
>| > this:  Illegtimati non te tum carborundum.

"In the absence of facts I will speculate wildly."
Byrocat - 26 Nov 2004 20:35 GMT
You're missing one important part of the pleasure of automobile
maintenance -- that of doing it yourself.

The majority of people who use this forum believe that a my-hands-on
approach to maintenance is useful and a pleasure, as well as saving
money. I hire a professional when something is beyond my skills or is
cost-effective (my time and my money). Applies to my car, my house, my
garden, my hobby.

Some go a lot farther than I would in what you can do yourself and
what needs to go to the shop.  In fact, my last repair job at the shop
included the offer of a lesson on how to do radiator flushes myself
(radiator/intercooler leak).

When I go in to the shop, I already know what needs to be done, saving
them time and effort in diagniosing problems by eliminating the
obvious. I invariable get a quick lesson from a mechanic on what I'd
missed or on some other aspect of maintaining the car.

My local mechanic believes that a knowledgable customer is an
investment of his time. The less time that he fa*ts around trying to
figure out what a customer says is a problem means that he has that
much more time to work on a real problem.

BTW, non carborundum illegitimi is a valid phrase -- A quick search
reveals that its used by a SAC bomber squadron as well as the UASF
Test Pilot School.

http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/center/test_pilot_school.html
Michael Pardee - 27 Nov 2004 15:41 GMT
> BTW, non carborundum illegitimi is a valid phrase -- A quick search
> reveals that its used by a SAC bomber squadron as well as the UASF
> Test Pilot School.
>
> http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/center/test_pilot_school.html

And, of course, "carborundum" was never a *Latin* word at all - carborundum
was invented about 100 years ago. Nikola Tesla was excited about it because
it could be made into powerful single wire incandescent bulbs powered by
high frequency, high voltage AC. Unfortunately for him, carborundum was
still too expensive at the time....

Mike
PA ND FAN - 23 Nov 2004 19:17 GMT
Bengt, while I agree with your general statement. Maintaining Volvo's have
become more expensive to repair since most of the current models now use
fibre optic's in the wiring scheme and the source of most problems on Volvo
and other European automobiles. Hence, Consumer Digests rating of most
European automobiles being at their lowest rating for the first 90 days of
ownership. I'm an owner of an 02 Volvo and have been a Volvo owner for over
10 years. Volvo has typically been exempt from low cost after-market parts
and accessories, but that is changing and will continue to do so as Volvo
chases after the younger age market.

> After reading this group for a while, it seems to me that most of you are
> interested in performing cheap, Mickey Mouse repairs on your cars and, failing
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and super glue are no longer Volvos, they are a disgrace and should be taken
> to the nearest junk yard.
Jon - 24 Nov 2004 07:47 GMT
> Bengt, while I agree with your general statement. Maintaining Volvo's have
> become more expensive to repair since most of the current models now use
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> and accessories, but that is changing and will continue to do so as Volvo
> chases after the younger age market.

I guess it depends upon where one lives, doesn't it? Just because one person
living in one part of the world thinks Volvo repair costs are excessive
doesn't mean it's so for another person who lives on the other side of the
world. Know what I mean Vern?
grtdane63 - 23 Nov 2004 22:10 GMT
> After reading this group for a while, it seems to me that most of you are
> interested in performing cheap, Mickey Mouse repairs on your cars and,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> taken
> to the nearest junk yard.

After reading your post, I am convinced that you should go back to your
regular group >alt.a.shole-factory<.
I am sure you could contribute much to their group!!!

Harold
 
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