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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / December 2004horn problems - Achilles Heel
I have a 1993 460 GL 2.0. The horn occasionally works, giving out a very weak "bleep", which causes people to laugh and flip me off rather than getting the hell outta the way. Because I do not have a garage, I regard this as a spring project as I think the horn is located just above the engine splash guard and I don't feel like dealing with it in shitty weather. I suspect the wiring is screwed. My question is: Have any of you had horn problems with your Volvo? What was the cause? Is this... Volvo's Achilles Heel? Thanks, Jon 440, 2 horns just put the car on ramps and disconnected one and the other is better. prob rust & earth problem. Putting my proper sorting out job too. maybe get a cheap horn from local car shop. >I have a 1993 460 GL 2.0. The horn occasionally works, giving out a very > weak "bleep", which causes people to laugh and flip me off rather than [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks, > Jon I don't know about "Achilles heel" but it certainly is an obvious design error, like they only realized at the last minute that they didn't make room for the horn... my 240 horn is nicely tucked away but the horn in my new 760 is under the front bumper on the driver's side and COMPLETELY unprotected from the elements. Of course it's corroded all to crap and doesn't work at all. I'm just waiting until I hit a slightly deeper snowbank and rip the thing clean off! blurp ps. I'd say the true Achilles heel is trying to make everything powered. Every button in my 240 works but in the 760 the power windows are dodgy, the power sunroof is dead, the power seats are hit-and-miss, power antenna is stuck, etc.. Give me manual seats and sunroof any day! >I have a 1993 460 GL 2.0. The horn occasionally works, giving out a very >weak "bleep", which causes people to laugh and flip me off rather than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Thanks, >Jon > I don't know about "Achilles heel" but it certainly is an obvious > design error, like they only realized at the last minute that they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > all to crap and doesn't work at all. I'm just waiting until I hit a > slightly deeper snowbank and rip the thing clean off! Yeah I hear you. I was wondering about the stupid placement of the horn on certain models. It may be a small thing, but it's a thing that's gotta work if I am going to get it thru the inspections. > ps. I'd say the true Achilles heel is trying to make everything > powered. Every button in my 240 works but in the 760 the power windows > are dodgy, the power sunroof is dead, the power seats are > hit-and-miss, power antenna is stuck, etc.. Give me manual seats and > sunroof any day! YEAH I second that! Pardon my French: f.ck all new sh.t that just f.cks up anyway. Thanks for your input, Jon Could be the achilles heal - our horns and bracket are the only rusting parts on our 960... Tho they still work well enough to scare the hell out of a Jaguar driver who almost was going to clip me. >I have a 1993 460 GL 2.0. The horn occasionally works, giving out a very > weak "bleep", which causes people to laugh and flip me off rather than [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks, > Jon rob...what year is yur 960 again? is a wagon, or sedan?...wagon is aka a saloon, right? no probelms w/my horn or any electrics on my 93 940t / 240k miles 93 wagon... no problems, just this is the only part of the car with actual rust on it that looks kind of bad... the axels, suspension, underbody - negligable surface corrosion! (and driven in salt-laden Souther Ontario winter roads too!).... Who needs dealer undercoating when you have a Volvo?.... Oiling every year - nope. > rob...what year is yur 960 again? is a wagon, > or sedan?...wagon is aka a saloon, right? > no probelms w/my horn or any electrics on > my 93 940t / 240k miles BTW Saloon = Sedan (3 box design w/4 doors, typically) Estate Car = Station Wagon (2 box design w/5 or 3 doors) > rob...what year is yur 960 again? is a wagon, > or sedan?...wagon is aka a saloon, right? > no probelms w/my horn or any electrics on > my 93 940t / 240k miles Well the 760 is an '88 so you fellas will have to wait 5 years for it all to go down the crapper :) blurp >BTW >Saloon = Sedan (3 box design w/4 doors, typically) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> no probelms w/my horn or any electrics on >> my 93 940t / 240k miles yea...you have a few years on our mdls...but, just do a junkyard swap, or dbl check the wiring...get a good, solid ground , the hot wire is probabally not a issue.....do some parts corrode at different rates...like on some boats?...dosen't corrosion have to do w/electrical trickles, or charges?...lucku for me, here in co we are mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) they put down on real slick days... I think i'll wire in an air horn when our horn goes :-P > yea...you have a few years on our mdls...but, just > do a junkyard swap, or dbl check the wiring...get a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) > they put down on real slick days... > I think i'll wire in an air horn when our horn goes :-P Yeah :) When you honk your horn, you usually do it because SOMEBODY ELSE is doing something terribly wrong, and you want them to know that they are in fault. An air horn would do the job nicely. Well I figure Volvo already has a horn that seems to do a GREAT job of waking people up - dual tone, loud, aggressive sounding... I'm just further refining the noise of it... Our old 91' VW had a nice horn too... except it would dim the exterior and interior lights whenever you pressed it, so the wiring must have been a little flakey - who can say ground fault? >> I think i'll wire in an air horn when our horn goes :-P > > Yeah :) When you honk your horn, you usually do it because SOMEBODY ELSE > is > doing something terribly wrong, and you want them to know that they are in > fault. An air horn would do the job nicely. In a motorcycle safety class I took years ago they strongly suggested that you not make such a modification, at least to a motorcycle. People hear that and start looking for the big truck instead of you. >I think i'll wire in an air horn when our horn goes :-P >> yea...you have a few years on our mdls...but, just [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) >> they put down on real slick days... I'll rig it to flash the highbeams at the same time then.... Ohh would I love a setup like that - not quite the most expected thing to see on a lumbering old Volvo wagon, and many would label me as an a.shole (which is why I don't think i'd ever bother doing it, stick to imagining for now) but it'd be pretty awesome. I'm honestly surprised no one has ever hooked up a loudspeaker/megaphone to project thru their grille yet (i'm sure there's weatherproof versions that could be adapted) so they could yell into traffic what they are yelling at in their cars... I bet there is someone who has this, just not where I live and commute. > In a motorcycle safety class I took years ago they strongly suggested that > you not make such a modification, at least to a motorcycle. People hear [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>> mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) >>> they put down on real slick days... > I'll rig it to flash the highbeams at the same time then.... Ohh would I > love a setup like that - not quite the most expected thing to see on a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > yelling at in their cars... I bet there is someone who has this, just not > where I live and commute. That's illegal here, I got pulled over in high school for just such a setup. No ticket though because the cop had to run off to another call. I like your flashing lights and horn idea. >> In a motorcycle safety class I took years ago they strongly suggested >> that you not make such a modification, at least to a motorcycle. People [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>>> mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) >>>> they put down on real slick days... Thanks, I got it in part from a drivers handbook that states something along the lines of "alert other motorists to your intentions by either signalling using a horn or flashing your headlamps to get their attention" and from one 'Simpsons' episode where they are driving to I believe a demolition derby event and Homer (the main character, if you are unfamiliar with the show... tho I think pretty much everyone has caught at least one episode, as it is/was incredibly popular) is weaving in and out of traffic whistling a classical song that every time there would be the drums or cymbals he honks the horn twice, and his highbeams flash with it... Thought that was a great idea when I saw it. >> I'll rig it to flash the highbeams at the same time then.... Ohh would I >> love a setup like that - not quite the most expected thing to see on a [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >>>>> mostly dry, no salt, just the new "mag cholerene" (sp?) >>>>> they put down on real slick days... |
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