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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / February 2005"Chocolate Box" Diesel Chipping
Does anyone in the UK have any experience of this device - as sold by East Coast Racing? There is one for the 2.5 litre Audi engine (as fitted to 850's and old shape V70's) for about 350 UKP. Apparently it connects into the wiring to the diesel injection pump and doesn't involve messing with the ECU. Are they effective in increasing torque and responsiveness? Do they adversely affect fuel consumption? What is the effect on insurance premiums (if you tell you insurers!)?  SignatureCheers, Bonnet Lock ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. I have one on my 1.9L TDI engine in my Golf (the Volvo doesn't need such mods to be powerfull ;-) ). The unit was made by PSI and sold by a VW/Audi tuner in town.... NICE difference in power with the box, makes driving an automatic tranny, diesel engined car quite bareable. Horsepower goes from 90 to over 100hp apparantly (i've heard as high as 110) and torque from 155 to possibly over 180 ft-lb - no dyno tests on my car, just going with the marketing they told me, feels like up to 20% difference in certain conditions. Since your Volvo has an Audi motor, the tuning box is probably similar to mine, as the company does carry multiple models of boxes. (Tho only TDI 1.9L and Pumpe Duse TDI 1.9L models were availible in Canada at the time, as they were our only diesel engines, at the time -We've got the V10 TDI now and a 2.0L 4 cylinder, but I don't know if you can get tuning boxes for them yet - no Audi motors with diesel over here either). > Does anyone in the UK have any experience of this device - as sold by East > Coast Racing? There is one for the 2.5 litre Audi engine (as fitted to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Do they adversely affect fuel consumption? > What is the effect on insurance premiums (if you tell you insurers!)? PS you might want to check out www.tdiclub.com your Audi engine might be a TDI type motor, these guys know their stuff on VW/Audi group diesel engines... They'd probably help a Volvophile tho ;-), I mean the two groups of loyal owners are equally as fanatical about their cars. > Does anyone in the UK have any experience of this device - as sold by East > Coast Racing? There is one for the 2.5 litre Audi engine (as fitted to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Do they adversely affect fuel consumption? > What is the effect on insurance premiums (if you tell you insurers!)? > Does anyone in the UK have any experience of this device - as sold by East > Coast Racing? There is one for the 2.5 litre Audi engine (as fitted to 850's [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Do they adversely affect fuel consumption? > What is the effect on insurance premiums (if you tell you insurers!)? Seems like it would be a much better idea to chip the ECU than to muck around with inserting stuff inbetween it and the engine. Anything you do is a compromise though, from the factory the cars are tuned quite well already for the average driver, you can move the torque curve around or increase power at the expense of torque at other RPM's, increased fuel consumption and decreased engine life, there's no free lunch. In an earlier contribution to this discussion, > Seems like it would be a much better idea to chip the ECU than to muck > around with inserting stuff in between it and the engine. Thanks for your comments. What do you see as the pros and cons of chipping the ECU vs the injector pump? [The claimed advantages of the 'chocolate box' are DIY installation and the ability to remove it without trace - useful if the car is still under warranty]. > Anything you do is a compromise though, from the factory the cars are > tuned quite well already for the average driver, you can move the > torque curve around or increase power at the expense of torque at > other RPM's, increased fuel consumption and decreased engine life, > there's no free lunch. It's pretty obvious that if it delivers more torque, it uses more fuel doing so. However, the claim is that this is offset by being able to operate in a higher gear in a lot of cases. I would be interested to hear from users of the device as to how this works out in reality. The engine in my 1999 (2000MY) V70 2.5D has a flat spot at around 1200-1400 RPM - particularly when pulling away from a junction in 3rd gear. Once its staggers above 1500 RPM, the acceleration dramatically increases. It can be improved slightly by tweaking the injector timing, but this doesn't seem to last long. My principal motivation for chipping is in trying to get rid of the flat spot. Again, I would welcome comments from people with first-hand experience. SignatureCheers, Bonnet Lock ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. > Thanks for your comments. What do you see as the pros and cons of chipping > the ECU vs the injector pump? [The claimed advantages of the 'chocolate box' > are DIY installation and the ability to remove it without trace - useful if > the car is still under warranty]. It really depends on the specific ECU and what chips are available for it. Warranty is a good point as well, for that case the external box may well be your best route. Perhaps you could borrow one from someone for a test drive and see how it feels? Or you could buy one and try it out for a while, if you don't like it sell it on ebay. |
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