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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / March 2005

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Richard Setford - 11 Feb 2005 21:42 GMT
Okay,

I've had the thing a week now so it's time for a service.

Just as a reminder for everyone, we're talking about a 1990 740 SE 2.0i Auto
Estate.

What is the best type of oil to put in the lump? Semi-synthetic or synthetic
and also 10/40 or 15/40?

Thanks,

Richard
Stewart Hargrave - 12 Feb 2005 16:22 GMT
>Okay,
>
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>What is the best type of oil to put in the lump? Semi-synthetic or synthetic
>and also 10/40 or 15/40?

I'd doubt there'd be much benefit in using synthetic if it has not
been used up till now.

I use Castrol GTX  in my '87 740. They do a version for high mileage
cars now, though I'm not sure what the difference is, and it doesn't
seem to make much difference to either oil consumption or fuel
economy.

15W/40 is fine for UK use, unless you are in the north of Scotland in
winter, where 10W/40 may be better.

I'd also be happy to use Duckhams, Silkolene, or any other well
established quality oil.
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Richard Setford - 13 Feb 2005 09:30 GMT
>>Okay,
>>
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> I'd also be happy to use Duckhams, Silkolene, or any other well
> established quality oil.

Thanks for that. I've used the Castrol High Mileage stuff before so if
it's been okay for you, I'm sute it'll be alright for me.

The last couple of cars I've had have been more 'performance' cars so I
guess that's why I'm a bit biased towards sythetic oils.

Regards,

Richard
Michael Pardee - 13 Feb 2005 14:26 GMT
> I'd doubt there'd be much benefit in using synthetic if it has not
> been used up till now.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> seem to make much difference to either oil consumption or fuel
> economy.

Not wanting to restart the synthetic oil controversy, but I changed to
synthetic in our '85 765T because I was tired of the deposit buildup in the
crankcase ventilation and engine induction system. IIRC it was a guru here
who expressed that he had worked on a similar model that had used synthetic
oil and the throttle body didn't have the deposits.

Mike
Richard Setford - 13 Feb 2005 18:44 GMT
>>I'd doubt there'd be much benefit in using synthetic if it has not
>>been used up till now.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Mike

Okay, that's thrown a spanner in the works!

Right everyone, we'll sort this out the old fashioned way.

Please cast your votes for either sythetic, semi-synthetic or 'normal'
oil here. No debate (just yet), just votes for now.

Thanks,

Richard
Erik Lid?n - 13 Feb 2005 19:42 GMT
> >>I'd doubt there'd be much benefit in using synthetic if it has not
> >>been used up till now.
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>
> Richard

Full Synthetic!!

/Erik Lid?n, from the cold north of Sweden
Michael Pardee - 13 Feb 2005 21:34 GMT
>> Not wanting to restart the synthetic oil controversy, but I changed to
>> synthetic in our '85 765T because I was tired of the deposit buildup in
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Richard

No, please! We've seen this myriad times here and other places! It never
goes anywhere. We can each make our own choices - we don't need to identify
a "winner" or "loser." Now I'm sorry I even mentioned it.

Mike
Richard Setford - 15 Feb 2005 04:02 GMT
>>>Not wanting to restart the synthetic oil controversy, but I changed to
>>>synthetic in our '85 765T because I was tired of the deposit buildup in
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Mike

Don't be like that Mike.

This is a new area for me and I just wanted to get a balanced opinion.
I'm not after a winner or loser to go 'ner ner ner ner ner' at, I just
want the best for my car.

What's wrong with that?

I hope you can see my point of view,

Richard
Bev A. Kupf - 15 Feb 2005 05:20 GMT
>> No, please! We've seen this myriad times here and other places! It never
>> goes anywhere. We can each make our own choices - we don't need to identify
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I hope you can see my point of view,

I can see your point, but I can also see Mike's.  So here's what you
can do.  Google has an archive of this group.  The archive is
searchable.  I have attached a link to previous discussions on the
same topic.  Opinions haven't changed since then, and we won't have
to go through the rigmarole of pissing on other people's opinions
once again.  Here's the link - good luck with your decision:

<http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?as_q=synthetic+or+dino+oil&num=10&scoring=r
&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=alt.autos.volvo&as_usubject=&as_
uauthors=&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=14&as_m
axm=2&as_maxy=2005&safe=off
>

In case the link is too long, here is a TinyURL of the same search:

<http://tinyurl.com/4bhgd>

And if neither works, the search term was "synthetic or dino oil" using
Google groups, and restricted to "alt.autos.volvo".

Beverly
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Richard Setford - 16 Feb 2005 07:58 GMT
>>>No, please! We've seen this myriad times here and other places! It never
>>>goes anywhere. We can each make our own choices - we don't need to identify
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>
> Beverly
Good thinking.

I'll try that. the last thing I want to do is annoy anyone
John Robertson - 14 Mar 2005 02:21 GMT
When old faithful gets weary why put thick oil in the old dear ,its too much
and will speed up wear on start economy will suffer ?give it  a genuine
synthetic oil change clean filter and what the machine clean up fast .The
old dino oil will glug up the system so expect a lot of nasty stuff to come
out till it cleans up after a couple of changes .remember filters filters
and quality oil

>>>>Not wanting to restart the synthetic oil controversy, but I changed to
>>>>synthetic in our '85 765T because I was tired of the deposit buildup in
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Richard
Andrew Potter - 26 Mar 2005 02:11 GMT
   I think the issue should concetrate on the correct API spec of oil for
the specific engine.  Any oil that is certified for the correct grade is
deemed worthy, be it synthetically-based or a blend.
> When old faithful gets weary why put thick oil in the old dear ,its too
> much and will speed up wear on start economy will suffer ?give it  a
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>>
>> Richard
Stewart Hargrave - 14 Feb 2005 03:05 GMT
>> I'd doubt there'd be much benefit in using synthetic if it has not
>> been used up till now.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>who expressed that he had worked on a similar model that had used synthetic
>oil and the throttle body didn't have the deposits.

I think you are right that synthetic oil won't leave deposits like
mineral oil does, but I have heard, anecdotally, that if you switch
from mineral to synthetic, the old deposits in the engine can be
softened and break away, leaving you with gallery-clogging sized bits
of crud floating around in the oil. This is not desireable.

My feeling is that on a car of this age, switching to synthetic is not
really going to prolong its life more than regular changes of mineral
oil, so the price difference cannot be justified. Good quality mineral
oil, used properly, has seen a great many Volvos achieve high mileage.

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Andy Coles - 20 Feb 2005 14:53 GMT
Why dont we all use Amsoil and support the cult !!

> Okay,
>
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>
> Richard
John Robertson - 26 Feb 2005 23:58 GMT
I am using B.P synthetic oil because I want our 3 Volvos to last .2 are
turbos so its a must for the heat and wear tear .Its costs to replace a
motor We are using 5-40 @ 300k 240k and 160 k no oil consumption no oil
grunge build up .As for the Amsoil cult ,we dont have such oil here,thank
goodness.  Too much hype .

> Why dont we all use Amsoil and support the cult !!
>
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>>
>> Richard
 
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