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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / March 2005

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Glazed rotor 850

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juniper - 02 Mar 2005 02:38 GMT
I bought my 1997 Volvo 850 a couple of years ago.  The brakes began
squealing within a couple of weeks.  I took it in for a brake job to
the tune of $450, which worked for a couple of days.  Now another
mechanic says the rotors are glazed, need to be turned, then if I put
new pads on, all will be well.  Recently, they don't just squeal when
the brakes are applied, but often squeal (more softly) just driving
down the road. Any ideas on this?

Also, ALL FOUR of my front calipler pins came completely out.  What's
that about?  They would not let me drive it home from the shop where I
had it checked out, nothing was holding the brakes together but the
clips.  Anyone ever heard of something like that?

TIA for your help.

Laurel
Glenn Klein - 02 Mar 2005 04:04 GMT
> I bought my 1997 Volvo 850 a couple of years ago.  The brakes began
> squealing within a couple of weeks.  I took it in for a brake job to
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>
> Laurel

1st) the fact that the shop wants to turn the rotors should scare you
the thickness from new to replacement 26mm New min thickness 23mm min
thickness @ brake pad replacement is 23.8mm
2nd) as for all four caliper pins to come out is hard to believe as the
caliper is held in by 2 caliper slides that are bolts for all 4 to to
just come out & the fact that you were driving the car without the
calipers hitting the wheels are slim & none
If it was my car & I was not knowledge in automotive repair I would look
for another repair facility you can choose a very qualified independent
Volvo repair shop or your local Volvo dealer
Glenn
ASE Certified Automotive Technician
Volvo Master Technician

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Stewart Hargrave - 02 Mar 2005 16:17 GMT
>1st) the fact that the shop wants to turn the rotors should scare you
>the thickness from new to replacement 26mm New min thickness 23mm min
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>just come out & the fact that you were driving the car without the
>calipers hitting the wheels are slim & none

This makes absolutely no sense at all, and may as well be written in
Sanskrit.

Please, if you want to be helpful, write it in a way that people can
understand.

Remember that this is an international group, and is read by many
people for whom English is not a first language. Punctuation is free;
if you use it we stand a chance of knowing what you say. Otherwise why
post at all?

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Mike F - 03 Mar 2005 13:48 GMT
> >1st) the fact that the shop wants to turn the rotors should scare you
> >the thickness from new to replacement 26mm New min thickness 23mm min
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I'm sorry, I disagree with you.  Glenn is one of the most knowledgeable
posters here, and I've learned alot from him.  If you don't like what or
how he posts, then you don't have to read his replies.

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Stewart Hargrave - 03 Mar 2005 21:14 GMT
>> >the thickness from new to replacement 26mm New min thickness 23mm min
>> >thickness @ brake pad replacement is 23.8mm
[..]

>> This makes absolutely no sense at all, and may as well be written in
>> Sanskrit.

>I'm sorry, I disagree with you.  Glenn is one of the most knowledgeable
>posters here, and I've learned alot from him.  If you don't like what or
>how he posts, then you don't have to read his replies.

Ohgruffmutter. Yeah OK, bad day an'all. Sorry Glenn.

I don't normally comment about other people's posting styles (and to
be fair, it wasn't a comment about his knowledge), but the above piece
of bowdlerisation was outstanding.

I'm still struggling with what it means.
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Robert Dietz <radietz@ - 03 Mar 2005 17:10 GMT
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> This makes absolutely no sense at all, and may as well be written in
> Sanskrit.
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> if you use it we stand a chance of knowing what you say. Otherwise why
> post at all?

Bit of a twist in the old knickers, eh mate?
Stewart Hargrave - 03 Mar 2005 21:15 GMT
> <snip>
>> This makes absolutely no sense at all, and may as well be written in
>> Sanskrit.

>Bit of a twist in the old knickers, eh mate?

Look, I didn't get this email address for nothing, you know.
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L David Matheny - 03 Mar 2005 17:07 GMT
> I bought my 1997 Volvo 850 a couple of years ago.  The brakes began
> squealing within a couple of weeks.  I took it in for a brake job to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the brakes are applied, but often squeal (more softly) just driving
> down the road. Any ideas on this?

Surely it's the pads that are glazed.  I've never heard of glazed rotors.
Whether they need to be turned is a matter of thickness and flatness.

> Also, ALL FOUR of my front calipler pins came completely out.  What's
> that about?  They would not let me drive it home from the shop where I
> had it checked out, nothing was holding the brakes together but the
> clips.  Anyone ever heard of something like that?

That sounds extremely odd.  I'd wonder if something was botched during
the brake job.  How did the mechanic think it could have happened?

> TIA for your help.
>
> Laurel
Michael Pardee - 04 Mar 2005 00:50 GMT
> Surely it's the pads that are glazed.  I've never heard of glazed rotors.

FWIW, I was waiting in the company garage and saw they had just bought a
"glaze breaker" that showed it being applied to a brake rotor. The device
looked like a cup-type wire brush that fits in a drill but had some sort of
abrasive balls on the wires. What that is all about... your guess is as good
as mine. I'm not going to ask!

Mike
juniper - 05 Mar 2005 22:33 GMT
He thought they weren't tightened to spec.  Although it was extremely
odd to him, too, and I think that is the only explanation he could
think of.

Regardless of Glenn's punctuation, his recommendation of finding a
competent tech came through loud and clear.  (I hope its okay to
respond to several posts in one reply.)
Anal Bandit - 09 Mar 2005 09:50 GMT
rub your pre-moistened a.shole all over the rotors and reattach.
Works for me!

Bai

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> I bought my 1997 Volvo 850 a couple of years ago.  The brakes began
> squealing within a couple of weeks.  I took it in for a brake job to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Laurel
Anal Bandit - 09 Mar 2005 09:50 GMT
sorry, i forgot to mention that fanny juice WILL NOT work.

> I bought my 1997 Volvo 850 a couple of years ago.  The brakes began
> squealing within a couple of weeks.  I took it in for a brake job to
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Laurel
 
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