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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / April 2005Changing the oil
...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze. > ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze. Another of the joys of the V6.  SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > > ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop > > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the > > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze. > > Another of the joys of the V6. Sure it's a pig of a motor & possibly the worst thing volvo ever did, but you choose 25 year old cars on different criteria. This is a fairly minor problemette specially when the whole thing cost less than a head job on a Camry. Other cars & motors have foibles too, this newsgoup is quite active with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if any volvo really is that flash based on some stories here. Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor. Cheers, Peter. >> > ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) >> > square [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if any > volvo really is that flash based on some stories here. That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to me. That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work. > Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > with peoples' problems but the v6 is barely figures... you'd wonder if any > > volvo really is that flash based on some stories here. > That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to me. > That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work. > > > Why not try a Renault or Peugeot dealer? They both used the same V6 motor. You can get them off tool trucks. Around here there are Snap-On and MAC tool trucks, they probably won't have it on board, but they'd be able to get it. Or to the "quickie oil change place" method - Vice grips! SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > > That's a really smart suggestion although pretty obvious didn't occur to me. > > That will be my next resort for sure if my lathe cutter doesn't work. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > tool trucks, they probably won't have it on board, but they'd be able to > get it. Or to the "quickie oil change place" method - Vice grips! We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as a draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak. > We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as a > draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also > don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of > choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak. I can't help you finding a truck, but for a mere A$ 30.47... http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=65528&group_ID=259 &store=australia&dir=catalog It looks like you can order it online. As I remember the V6 drain plug, there's about 3mm sticking out that you could get your vice grips onto. (I've seen them damaged this way at my friend's shop.) Then buy a proper plug, with a hex head. Over here the V6 as installed in the 200 series had a plug with 16 mm threads, the version in the 760 had 18 mm threads. SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > > We have snapon too, you have to be somewhere they go (I work at home as a > > draftsman) & they don't seem to have an address in this state, they also > > don't seem to have much of a website. Vicegrips are one of my tools of > > choice but this is a female plug... double adaptor so to speak. > > I can't help you finding a truck, but for a mere A$ 30.47... http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=65528&group_ID =259&store=australia&dir=catalog > It looks like you can order it online. > As I remember the V6 drain plug, there's about 3mm sticking out that you > could get your vice grips onto. (I've seen them damaged this way at my > friend's shop.) Then buy a proper plug, with a hex head. Over here the > V6 as installed in the 200 series had a plug with 16 mm threads, the > version in the 760 had 18 mm threads. Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I will see how the bit I have works first but might bite the bullet despite the price - my engineering substitutions usually don't go too well partly because the workshop is a bit too basic & now full of leftovers from daughters' attempts at leaving home. > Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the > nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I will > see how the bit I have works first but might bite the bullet despite the > price - my engineering substitutions usually don't go too well partly > because the workshop is a bit too basic & now full of leftovers from > daughters' attempts at leaving home. Yeah, I could see from your ISP that you were in Australia. Change the word "australia" to "canada" and see it only would cost me C$ 14.60, or about A$ 15.31 at today's exchange rate, about half what you'd pay. Ouch! SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > > Thank you Mike, it's even an Aus. website. Part of my trouble was the > > nomenclature (I wouldn't have called it a socket... or a pipe plug). I will [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about A$ 15.31 at today's exchange rate, about half what you'd pay. > Ouch! If I thought everything was that comparitively cheap I might consider changing the word on my address. I always believed Daivd Suzuki when he said Aust & Canada were similar in being resources bread-baskets & yet economic basket cases. Much we buy here now is Chinese & so cheap it's scarey & the quality is improving quicker than Jap stuff did. Still an ex-Canadian mate of mine is doing well here - his business is called Spir(r?)it River & exporting radio aerials, hates more than anything being called a yank. Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that, no socket required, just the ratchet or a breaker bar. t > Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket > on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that, > no socket required, just the ratchet or a > breaker bar. They are only 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" (and come in some bigger sizes). 5/16" would have been about right but there is no such. > > Can't you just use your ratchet with no socket > > on it? My honda's trannie plug is like that, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > They are only 1/4", 3/8" or 1/2" (and come in some bigger sizes). 5/16" > would have been about right but there is no such. Find a local machine shop and have them make you a socket, or do it yourself by filing down a short grade-8 bolt with a hand file or bench grinder. It'll cost you only a couple bucks. special volvo wrench required...it keeps up the revenue stream..... >...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square >socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop >around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the >satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze. Find a short piece of square bar stock that will fit it, and apply a Crescent wrench. Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it. Gary SignatureGary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net Windows is like SUVs; a bad idea, poorly implemented, unsafe, with a lot of inept users, but a fact of life we have to put up with. > >...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > >socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it. Thanks you all for the suggestions folks, I got a 5/16" worn lathe tool from a mate. But it was really hard from good local toolshops and a volvo dealer didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the 10 years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not. >>>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square >>>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > didn't want to know... they must expect the car to be scrapped after the 10 > years support quoted. Good advert for a new one. not. Volvo does not make a tool for the drain plug on the V-6 Motors any good auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key to remove the drain plug Signature"*-344-*Never Forgotten" Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001. The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long as I live, nor should any American. > >>>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > >>>socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > auto parts store should be able to supply you with the correct Allen key > to remove the drain plug I would have thought so and can believe there are better sops than here in western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me. >>>>>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me > there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me. If there is a special Volvo tool you can purchase from the dealers part department I will check this with the parts department on Thursday & post back with the part # & approximate cost Glenn Signature"*-344-*Never Forgotten" Is for the New York City Firemen who lost their lives on September 11,2001. The official count is 343, but there was also a volunteer who lost his life aiding in the initial rescue efforts. And I will never forget them as long as I live, nor should any American. > >>>>>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) ..................... > If there is a special Volvo tool you can purchase from the dealers part > department I will check this with the parts department on Thursday & > post back with the part # & approximate cost > Glenn Again thanks for your trouble Michael, Glen & etc. the lathe tool from my mate should work but haven't tried it yet. Meanwhile I might have set a record for longest thread for the smallest bit for a volvo? RIP IT OUT WITH A ALLEN KEY REPLACE IT WITH A NORMAL NUT ,STUPID FROGGY IDEA . I sadly admit I once owned a V6 264 wish synthetic oil was around back then .Dont trust any people who eat snails and frogs .Amechanic should have it out in a jiffy or use a key near the fit using a screw driver to make up the difference .P\s a falcon oil filter will fit straight on much cheaper too .Z9 >> >>>...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) > square [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > western australia, but none of the local shops had anything. Repco told me > there was a special volvo tool but they probably wouldn't sell one to me. > >...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > >socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool shop [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Then borrow a car and go buy a conventional drain plug and replace it. Switch over to a drain valve. Fumoto, for instance. > ...should be easy, right? But the bloody thing has an 8mm (maybe) square > socket in the sump plug, a tool for which isn't available from any tool > shop > around here. Haven't tried a volvo dealer yet but don't want to give the > satisfaction. Just wanted to say... geeze. Your frustration continues as I found this discontinued (no replacement) item: http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=3840 8 mm appears to be correct, according to the description at the bottom. Yahoo shopping indicates they were about $10 US for the set, but it finds no other hits on the part number... ditto Google. Kd-tools.com does not list it in their catalog. I suspect KD tools was a sole source and they have stopped production. Mike |
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