Just Bought a '96 960 Wagon...

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geotek - 17 Apr 2005 06:56 GMT

I'm happy, but...
Has anybody found a good alternative/replacement for the cup holders?
geotek

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Rob Guenther - 17 Apr 2005 18:08 GMT

If I get a coffee with our 1993 960 i'll either ask for the 4-coffee tray,
or just hold the coffee with one hand and drive with the other (I know...
this is not safe, but sometimes I forget to ask for a tray since my other
car has cupholders, so I'm not in the habit anymore... our old 91 Golf
didn't have holders either, so it was 2nd nature to ask for a tray)

I generally try to avoid coffee in the car tho (i'll have one when I get to
work) but on long trips it's nice.

Do the 96's have "cupholders", our 93 has these little depressions on the
door for the glove compartment, they're not even round or anything, but I
guess you could set a coffee down in one - i'd be scared to corner at above
5kph with a drink there tho.

> I'm happy, but...
> Has anybody found a good alternative/replacement for the cup holders?
> geotek

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powellwd3 - 20 Apr 2005 00:58 GMT

Here's what I did in my 96 960 wagon. Purchased two of the low profile
flip down cupholders that are listed on ebay by several persons. I paid
about $ 10.00 each. They can be mounted on any flat vertical surface with
screws. Several folks on the brickboard website have used them. I did not
want to use screws as to not permanently marr my console so I used Velcro
(actually 3M hook/pile, heavy duty, indo and outdoor fastener tape). It's
rated to hold 10 lbs. I mounted them on the center console just infrom of
the inside portion of the front seat. Ensure you place them where they
are usable (too far back on the console and you can't use them with the
seat forward). They work great. They are close to OEM color and are very
sturdy. If you send your email, I can send you some pics.

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Peter K L Milnes - 21 Apr 2005 00:14 GMT

It goes without saying that they should be mounted where you cannot reach
them when driving as a matter of safety. Cup holders should ONLY be used
when stationary to hold cups with drink in them.

Cheers, Peter.

> Here's what I did in my 96 960 wagon. Purchased two of the low profile
> flip down cupholders that are listed on ebay by several persons. I paid
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> seat forward). They work great. They are close to OEM color and are very
> sturdy. If you send your email, I can send you some pics.

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James Sweet - 21 Apr 2005 04:16 GMT

> It goes without saying that they should be mounted where you cannot reach
> them when driving as a matter of safety. Cup holders should ONLY be used
> when stationary to hold cups with drink in them.

That's silly, what use are cupholders if you can't reach them? Is it really
that distracting to sip a drink at stoplights or on the freeway? I've never
had an issue with it, but then I don't try to jabber on the phone at the
same time.

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geotek - 21 Apr 2005 21:25 GMT

I'd have to disagree. When driving on a long trip, I can't drive without a
water bottle. In the mornings, I can't drive without my coffee (yes, in a
travel mug.) I consider these essential for safe driving. I want to be
able to reach down, grab my cup, and take a sip without taking my eyes off
the road ahead. I don't want to have to look for my cup.
geotek

> It goes without saying that they should be mounted where you cannot reach
> them when driving as a matter of safety. Cup holders should ONLY be used
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>> seat forward). They work great. They are close to OEM color and are very
>> sturdy. If you send your email, I can send you some pics.

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Peter K L Milnes - 22 Apr 2005 00:36 GMT

It is a darn good job that neither of you do any motoring in the UK. Here
they will stop you and ticket you for eating an apple (amongst other things)
whilst driving. UK motoring law says that you cannot possibly have full
control of your vehicle whilst eating, drinking and/or smoking, let alone
using a mobile 'phone. It is common sense, after all, to pull over if you
need a break of any sort so that you are not a danger to everybody else on
the road in your vicinity. Anybody caught doing such a potentially dangerous
act, as you describe, should have his licence revoked and be made to take
another driving test before regaining that licence.

Cheers, Peter.

> I'd have to disagree. When driving on a long trip, I can't drive without
> a water bottle. In the mornings, I can't drive without my coffee (yes, in
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>>> very
>>> sturdy. If you send your email, I can send you some pics.

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Clay - 22 Apr 2005 02:15 GMT

> <snipped>

> It is common sense, after all, to pull over if you
> need a break of any sort so that you are not a danger to everybody else on
> the road in your vicinity. Anybody caught doing such a potentially dangerous
> act, as you describe, should have his licence revoked and be made to take
> another driving test before regaining that licence.

Well, in California you can't pass the driving test unless you have a chili dog
in one hand, your cell phone wedged on your shoulder and a cold drink between
your knees (points off if you crush the can) while negotiating freeway rush hour
traffic... *g*
[just kidding!]

Seriously, I had no idea they were so tough on UK drivers. If we were to crack
down like that on drivers here in LA, the traffic problem would be solved...
about ¾ of the drivers would be without licenses!

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Rob Guenther - 22 Apr 2005 02:59 GMT

There's also a higher use of manual transmissions in UK/Europe, and the
roads seems to be more winding - making frequent use of the steering and
gearbox.... So this makes sense to me.

But when I'm driving to work/school on a grid system of lines and sideroads,
then major arterial roads that run predominately straight... or on the ultra
boring 401 express highway (apparantly one of the most boring highways
around - straight and wide for the most part) I don't see the problem with
having a coffee while driving... especially since most people drive an
automatic (sadly so do I.... the Volvo and one of the VW's are auto, and the
manual VW I never drive)... I never have coffee in a manual transmission
vehicle, and never when I know i'll be on a winding road, and NEVER in
inclement weather.

> It is a darn good job that neither of you do any motoring in the UK. Here
> they will stop you and ticket you for eating an apple (amongst other
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>>>> very
>>>> sturdy. If you send your email, I can send you some pics.

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