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shoot me...i am buying another s80
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~^ beancounter ~^ - 26 Apr 2005 14:41 GMT well...i guess i have to "eat some crow" in front of the whols ng now.....
i just wrote out my deposit check for another (my 2nd) s80...
after driving a number of used volvo models...tweeking my 93 940t up to almost 300 hp...(i am on my 3rd tranny).....and renting, test driving, borowing, sitting in the rear to check legroom ... etc ... on as number of other volvos ... for the $, I couldn't pass up or walk away from this deal.
its a moondust 2000 t5 w/all options (listed for $45k) prem sound, 17" wheels, safety glass, etc....w 130k miles (high, I know) ... complete dealer service records ... Clean no dings body paint in xlt condition ... for $8,500 ..
overall, if running right...the turbo s80 is a nice sized, and featured sedan...i will know more of what i am gettin' into in the next week or so. the 93 940t goes to the kids for a high school car (after some de tunning, of course)...
but, it l@@ks like i am back in the s80 club....
~^ beancounter ~^ - 26 Apr 2005 22:38 GMT anyone else on the ng w/a high miles 2000 t5 ?? high miles = >100,ooo ??
thanx...
Arne C - 27 Apr 2005 07:04 GMT Just want to say congrats man...Here in Sweden they want the double or more for a car in that condition :(
Gert
AB - 27 Apr 2005 11:18 GMT Not a 2000 T5 S80 but a 1999 T5 S70 (same engine?).... and that with 155000 miles.... And still runs like a charm (touch wood). Just ordered a whole cambelt kit from FCP Groton (yeah and I'm from the UK and it still works out cheaper than locally!) - belt, ider, tensioner and waterpump to keep her sweet... Never had anything on the engine but oil, filters, belts, plugs and an Air Mass Meter (and the obligatory throttle control module at 110k).
Strangely I get all my parts from FCP these days as the parts cost less than half the UK cost (for genuine) and about 2/3 for most non genuine parts. Never been able to figure that one... parts made in Europe, shipped to US, shipped back to UK for less than if they were shipped direct to UK? Someone is ripping us off here big time!
Enjoy your new wheels.... sounds lovely!!!
> anyone else on the ng w/a high miles 2000 t5 ?? > high miles = >100,ooo ?? > > thanx... ~^ beancounter ~^ - 27 Apr 2005 13:27 GMT thats good to hear AB...normal maintaince i have no problems with. i am having a complete inspection done before delivery....they are a sweet, confortable ride...when working properly....(and "cared for")...i guess...but no doubt there are lemmons out there...i see the owners voicing their issues more and more these days...my fingers are x'ed....
~^ beancounter ~^ - 30 Apr 2005 23:06 GMT AB >>
"and the obligatory throttle control module at 110k"
how did you know the TCM was going out? and, aprox how much $$ was this fix? thanx....I hear a lot of these TCM's are going out on the volvo motors...
ixat - 27 Apr 2005 08:18 GMT >its a moondust 2000 t5 w/all options (listed for $45k) prem sound, 17" Didn't know that S80's come in T5. I thought turbos are all T6?
Spanky - 24 Jun 2005 21:47 GMT > its a moondust 2000 t5 w/all options (listed for $45k) prem sound, 17" > wheels, safety glass, etc....w 130k miles (high, I know) ... complete > dealer service records ... Clean no dings body paint in xlt condition > ... for $8,500 .. I knew you would be back!
Sounds like a reasonably good deal although that is a lot of miles on the suspension/chassis components. I bet the engine is good for a lot more though. They only came in a 2.8 liter T6 and the 2.9 liter normally aspirated I-6. The complete dealer service records are nice, especially if the dealer specializes in Volvo's and has had competent mechanics. I'm curious what kind of major repairs/replacements the car has needed in it's first 130,000 miles? Mine has been nearly perfect for the first 70,000/5+ years but that car has almost double the mileage.
One thing many overlook when comparing the S80 to other cars is the extreme build quality/strength and rigidity of the chassis and body. This helps roadholding under evasive manuevers and of course occupant safety in the event of collision. I hope you enjoy your new (previously owned) car! If it needs new shocks do not make the mistake I did and buy Bilsteins, they are way too stiff for the S80! Go with the Sachs that were engineered for the car. They work really well on all types of surfaces.
Spanky
~^ beancounter ~^ - 27 Jun 2005 02:29 GMT spanky....yea, your right...after crusin' in my 1993 940t...renting and
driving w/my brother in law, in his s80, sitting in the back for an hour ride...(confie)...i decided to get either a used v70 or s80, the s80's were a lot cheaper than the v70's...i ended up w/a deal i couldn't walk away from...anyway, its a high miles 2000 t6 w/all upgrades except the phone and nav system...reviewing the dealer/service records...no major repairs done...just the normal oil/lub/timing belt, etc...the tec folks at IPD recomended the Bilstenis upgrade...did you install and then go to the sachs?.....they were really hard, ea? the IPD tec said they would not be rougher, but stiffer and a better feel...???.....i will look into the sachs..thanx for the tip...
Spanky - 27 Jun 2005 22:21 GMT >..i ended up w/a deal i couldn't walk > away from...anyway, its a high miles 2000 t6 w/all upgrades except the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > a better feel...???.....i will look into the sachs..thanx for the > tip... Bilstein makes two sets of shocks for the S80, OEM replacement and "Sport". I went for the OEM replacement as I didn't want a harsh ride. They are WAY stiffer than the OEM shocks and actually give me less traction on rough roads or on snow/ice. The ride is MUCH more uncomfortable. The S80 comes with Sachs shocks which are tuned nicely for the S80. One of the front ones failed (no damping) but the car still drove reasonably well. I replaced all four and was looking forward to the upgraded performance but it never materialized. The Sachs are MUCH less expensive. I think the reason I had one fail after only 60,000 miles might have to do with some high speed washboard driving I've done at high temperatures in E. WA. Under more normal use I think they are good for at least 100,000 miles.
After spending around $800 for the Bilsteins I'm not overly anxious to buy the Sachs but I don't like the way the car drives currently. I don't know what I'll do. Just get the Sachs and spend the extra money on good tires and maybe the IPD anti-sway bar. I think the OEM rubber anti-sway bushings wear out (get loose) after so many miles.
It's nice to hear of another high mileage S80 T6 with no major repairs needed. This is more common than Usenet and www forum messages would have you believe. Does your car have the summer package (window shades and UV reflect windscreen)?
Cheers!
Spanky
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 02:29 GMT yea, it does have the summer tint, and some sort of security glass or coating...i am not sure what, but i have the window sticker and it was extra $$ on there...does your security/burgler alarm ever just go off...by itself?...
i think i will l@@k close @ the sach's set up...your right, i would rather take the $ and put it to a nice set of shoes...that and the IPD sway bars (my shop called a few moments ago and said the IPD kit "has arrived via ups, and is ready for install"...and a solid set of bushings should be more than enough for the type of driving i plan on...
then, a IPD chip flash, and a 2.5 or 3.0 exhaust system and i am set for the year...i think...
where should i shop for the sachs shocks/struts?...which ones usually go 1st...the front or rear set?
richard / colorado
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 02:39 GMT sheeze...there are a lot of shops selling the sachs listed on google...never mind the question "where should i byt them"... ?? duhhhaaa.......
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 02:31 GMT >> After spending around $800 for the Bilsteins I'm not overly anxious to buy >> the Sachs but I don't like the way the car drives currently... that sucks...that's a lot of $$ to throw at a problem and not be satasified...
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 02:49 GMT yea, it does have the summer tint, and some sort of security glass or coating...i am not sure what, but i have the window sticker and it was extra $500 .. the sticker states "homelink security pkg"... great system...does your security/burgler alarm ever just go off...by itself...mine does...i guess thats part of the extra $500...??? ... anyway, i can sorta of disable it w/a special button on the "button bank"...that turns down the "alert state" a notch, or two....
i think i will l@@k close @ the sach's set up...your right, i would rather take the $ and put it to a nice set of shoes...that and the IPD sway bars (my shop called a few moments ago and said the IPD kit "has arrived via ups, and is ready for install"... that and a solid set
of bushings should be more than enough for the type of driving i plan on...
then, a IPD chip flash, and a 2.5 or 3.0 exhaust system and i am set for the year ... i think ...
which struts/shocks usually go 1st ... the fronts or rears ?
richard / colorado
Spanky - 28 Jun 2005 11:09 GMT > yea, it does have the summer tint, and some sort of security > glass or coating...i am not sure what, but i have the window [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > button on the "button bank"...that turns down the "alert state" > a notch, or two.... The only time my security alarm has ever gone off on it's own is when I didn't know enough to disable it for a rough water ferry ride. Other than that, it has never sounded a single false alarm. It's pretty cool because I can lock the car and leave the windows all the way down and if anyone sticks their arm in the window opening, the alarm will sound. but it never goes off by itself (except on the stormy ferry ride). I hate alarms but this is one I'm glad I have and now I always remember to disable the motion sensor before locking the car on the ferry.
Spanky.
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 16:33 GMT yes...sounds like yours is functioning...mine may need to be calabrated, or re set somehow.....you can test yours by setting, then leaving the windows down, and sticking your arm inside to trip the motion sensor? the alarm then trips?...does it "sound" for like 20 sec, or 1 min...then go off?...thanx.....
ixat - 28 Jun 2005 17:04 GMT > ... now I always remember to disable the motion sensor >before locking the car on the ferry. I don't even know how to disable the S80's motion sensor, and too lazy to look it up. How is it done?
I do know that it has a motion sensor as I tried waiting in the car one time, and it went off.
Spanky - 28 Jun 2005 17:24 GMT >> ... now I always remember to disable the motion sensor >>before locking the car on the ferry. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I do know that it has a motion sensor as I tried waiting in the car > one time, and it went off. There is a button on the dash that has an icon of a sensor radiating downward. After you remove the key from the ignition you push the button. Then when you lock the car the motion sensor is disabled until you use the car again. I don't know how long the alarm sounds for. It's loud enough that when I have tested it I have always turned it off immediately.
Spanky
~^ beancounter ~^ - 28 Jun 2005 19:15 GMT yep...one of the buttons on the "button bank"...just above the gear selector handle....when pressed, it lights up and a mssg comes through the mssg window advising you of a "decreased state of protection"....
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