Car Forum / Volvo Cars / July 2005
'93 850, parking brake clunk?
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Mike Mayer - 30 Jun 2005 02:00 GMT '93 850, 5 speed, 143K miles.
I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the handle, when the car is moving forward maybe 5-10 MPH. As if something's loose inside the mechanism. Parking brake mechanism also seems balky, sticks sometimes.
I'd like to pull off the hub nuts on both sides and remove the brake rotor so I can inspect the parking brake assembly. Anyone know the size socket required for that large hub nut (under the removable hub cover)? Looks to be a 35mm or 36mm socket, (more than 1-3/8", less than 1-1/2"). I have a long 1/2" drive breaker-bar, if I can get a 1/2" drive socket big enough I should be able to back-off that hub nut.
It also appears to be either a locknut with a nylon insert, or it has loctite on the threads (can see something blue between the threads where they meet the nut).
Has anyone done this?
Thanks,
Mike
Stephen Henning - 30 Jun 2005 13:01 GMT > I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the handle, > when the car is moving forward maybe 5-10 MPH. It does it at highway speeds also. This is normal. They did it when the were new and still do. It only happens once until you drive a while, then you can make it do it again. The parking brake is a drum brake. The shoes must be quite a distance from the drum but take a while to get back.
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Mike F - 30 Jun 2005 14:59 GMT > > I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the handle, > > when the car is moving forward maybe 5-10 MPH. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. > http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html And there's no need to remove any big nuts. http://www.volvospeed.com/850rbrake1.php follow instructions to remove the rotor, although as Stephen says, what you're hearing may be normal.
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Mike Mayer - 30 Jun 2005 23:35 GMT Thanks for that tip on Volvospeed. I had actually read that before, but missed the mention of the 10mm pin, which has to be removed, it looks like, in order to get the rotor off.
Is that pin removable on the '93 850? The picture shows a 5-lug Cross Country rotor. I have a 4-lug 850 rotor. I assume the pin comes off with a 10mm socket?
Will be nice not to have to pull that large nut off.
Regards,
Mike
>> > I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the >> > handle, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > follow instructions to remove the rotor, although as Stephen says, what > you're hearing may be normal. mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 30 Jun 2005 23:47 GMT > Thanks for that tip on Volvospeed. I had actually read that before, but > missed the mention of the 10mm pin, which has to be removed, it looks like, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Regards, All the big volvos with rear discs clunk a bit if you pull the handbrake on while still moving.The way the shoes are fitted leaves a bit of rotational movement.Take of the wheel and remove the pin(10mm spanner or socket)and the disc (rotor to you guys)comes off exposing the shoes.If you are going to remove the shoes have a good look at them first as they can be a bit fiddly to fit. Mark.
Mike F - 05 Jul 2005 13:18 GMT > Thanks for that tip on Volvospeed. I had actually read that before, but > missed the mention of the 10mm pin, which has to be removed, it looks like, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Will be nice not to have to pull that large nut off. There is a picture there of the FWD type rear rotor, on the first page. That center cap you see in the bottom 2 pictures does not need to be removed.
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Mike Mayer - 05 Jul 2005 16:30 GMT Mike F, thanks.
AH, yes, I see from those pix that the hub cover is still there. Before reading all this, I did pop it off, thinking I had to back off the big nut. Luckily, I don't. AND luckily it's on so tight that I didn't back it off. That probably would not have been much fun.
Regards,
Mike
>> Thanks for that tip on Volvospeed. I had actually read that before, but >> missed the mention of the 10mm pin, which has to be removed, it looks [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > That center cap you see in the bottom 2 pictures does not need to be > removed. Bonnet Lock - 30 Jun 2005 17:25 GMT In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> '93 850, 5 speed, 143K miles. > > I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the > handle, when the car is moving forward maybe 5-10 MPH. As if > something's loose inside the mechanism. Parking brake mechanism also > seems balky, sticks sometimes. My 1999 V70 (same basic design) has always done this from new. There is also a small amount of - presumably intentional - rotational movement of the shoes inside the drums. If you come to rest on a slight slope, using the footbrake, and then apply the handbrake, the car rolls an inch or two down the slope. It's a bit disconcerting at first, but once you get used to it, it's not a problem.
Anyway, the parking brake is for . . .er . . .Parking - so you should only apply it when the car is stationary - then you won't get any nasty clunks. You have perfectly good disc brakes to stop you from any speed above zero.
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INotB - 01 Jul 2005 19:34 GMT Had a similar clunking on my 1995 850, and was particularly bad when backing up from a cold "overnight" sit in the garage. Found that rear parking brake shoes had disintegrated!! and broken pieces of the shoe friction material were jamming between the metal shoes and the drum. Replaced parking shoes, spring kits etc. and all was fine.
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > apply it when the car is stationary - then you won't get any nasty clunks. > You have perfectly good disc brakes to stop you from any speed above zero. Stephen Henning - 02 Jul 2005 14:37 GMT > Had a similar clunking on my 1995 850, and was particularly bad when backing > up from a cold "overnight" sit in the garage. Found that rear parking brake > shoes had disintegrated!! and broken pieces of the shoe friction material > were jamming between the metal shoes and the drum. Replaced parking shoes, > spring kits etc. and all was fine.
> >> '93 850, 5 speed, 143K miles. > >> I get a nasty clunk from the parking brake when I pull up on the > >> handle, when the car is moving forward maybe 5-10 MPH. As if > >> something's loose inside the mechanism. Parking brake mechanism also > >> seems balky, sticks sometimes. These are two different things. The first in not common. The second is universal. The clunk when the car is moving and you put on the brake happens on new Volvos, at least the full sized ones with drum parking brakes, fresh out of the factory. (I don't know if the 40/50 Volvos have drum parking brakes) It is something that few people experience since they don't put on the parking brake when the car is moving. I like to use my parking brake when I am in traffic that is just creeping. I will shut off the engine and coast using just the parking brake if possible. It only clunks the first time unless you wait a while and drive over bumps and stuff so the slack that causes the clunk comes back.
 Signature Cheers, Steve Henning in Reading, PA, USA Owned '67,'68,'71,'74,'79,'81,'87,'93,'95 & '01 Volvos. The '67,'74,'79,'87,'95 and '01 through European Delivery. http://home.earthlink.net/~rhodyman/volvo.html
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