1991 240 Radio removal

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David Balfour - 16 Jul 2005 20:23 GMT

I can remove an engine but apparently a radio is beyond me.

The car is a 1991 UK spec 240 with the OEM radio above the vents. I want to
install a CD player in the old-style radio area in front of the gear lever.
This photo shows the radio and vents:
http://www.bal4.fsnet.co.uk/240radio1.jpg

How do you remove the old one? There are two screws (torx head) which, when
removed, make it wobble but it won't withdraw enough to detach the wires.

I thought I'd try and remove the vents and glove box to aid myself. I
couldn't remove either - the vents wouldn't shift (I could only see one
screw next to the inst panel which only freed one side) and the glove-box
has two totally inaccessible screws which seemingly require the 'lid' to be
removed before the screws can be got at.

After removing the centre console I found the OEM amp which is behind the
main support. It has a multi-way connector and a DIN socket. Does anybody
know the pin-out / wiring colour code for the multi-way connector? My wiring
diagram doesn't show this radio. The amp looks like this:
http://www.bal4.fsnet.co.uk/240radio2.jpg

I did succeed in changing some blown instrument lights though.

Any help most gratefully received.

David

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James Sweet - 16 Jul 2005 21:46 GMT

> I can remove an engine but apparently a radio is beyond me.
>
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> How do you remove the old one? There are two screws (torx head) which, when
> removed, make it wobble but it won't withdraw enough to detach the wires.

I just recently went through this and figured it out with the help of
someone on the group. In the back there's a security clip, it has a locking
tab that pokes through a slot in a bracket and latches. I had to remove the
glove box and reach in there with small pliars and bend the little tab until
it broke off, there's not much room at all back there.

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David Balfour - 17 Jul 2005 11:10 GMT

> I just recently went through this and figured it out with the help of
> someone on the group. In the back there's a security clip, it has a
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> until
> it broke off, there's not much room at all back there.

Thanks James - I thought this might be the case. Is there an easy way to
remove the lid of the glove box so I can access the two screws that face
down at the bottom? I tried yesterday to disconnect the securing arm and
managed to break it off.

I have some chubby screwdrivers but nothing that can seemingly get in there.

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James Sweet - 17 Jul 2005 19:21 GMT

> Thanks James - I thought this might be the case. Is there an easy way to
> remove the lid of the glove box so I can access the two screws that face
> down at the bottom? I tried yesterday to disconnect the securing arm and
> managed to break it off.
>
> I have some chubby screwdrivers but nothing that can seemingly get in there.

Those were a pain too, I can't figure out why they're there, the older 240's
don't have those two screws and I didn't put them back in the one I worked
on. What I ended up doing was taking a screwdriver bit from my power
screwdriver and gripping it with pliars to get those screws out.

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David Balfour - 18 Jul 2005 19:07 GMT

> Those were a pain too, I can't figure out why they're there, the older
> 240's
> don't have those two screws and I didn't put them back in the one I worked
> on. What I ended up doing was taking a screwdriver bit from my power
> screwdriver and gripping it with pliars to get those screws out.

Inspired idea - thank you very much! They're also not there in the 240's
around 1985, so who knows what purpose they serve other than to confuse the
less-resourceful amongst us.

David

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bob - 17 Jul 2005 21:53 GMT

Some of them just have a rear strap screwed up under the dash. Just remove
the middle speaker cover from the dash and there it is.

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