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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / August 2005240 self levelling suspension
The suspension in my 1992 240 SE (UK spec) is due for a renovation soon - the back is saggy and the front shocks are on their way out. I have the self-levelling type of rear shocks, but I'm considering putting standard ones on due to the price of the self-levelling units. Do I just need to change the shocks, or are there other things that need changing? As I'm looking at replacing a lot of suspension parts, I was cautiously thinking of perhaps trying to make the car less 'wallowy' in the corners. Google turned up nothing, so does anyone know if there is a site around that describes any options. I don't want to do anything silly, just make it slightly less of a pudding in the corners. Any help most gratefully received. David > The suspension in my 1992 240 SE (UK spec) is due for a renovation soon - > the back is saggy and the front shocks are on their way out. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > David Self leveling suspension on a 240? I thought that was only offered on 760s? I have IPD swaybars on my 240 and they work wonders. You're probably due for new bushings too. >> The suspension in my 1992 240 SE (UK spec) is due for a renovation soon - >> the back is saggy and the front shocks are on their way out. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >I have IPD swaybars on my 240 and they work wonders. You're probably due for >new bushings too. I have the nivomats on teh 960. If a car is so equipped, I believe that if you retrofit standard shocks the springs also have to be changed to match. __ __ Randy & \ \/ /alerie's \__/olvos '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate "Shelby" & "Kate" > Self leveling suspension on a 240? I thought that was only offered on 760s? > > I have IPD swaybars on my 240 and they work wonders. You're probably due for > new bushings too. In North America, Nivomats were standard in the 260 wagon from 1979. To swap them out, it's the same story as on the 700 series, you need to use different (stiffer) springs. You could probably find some cheap springs from a scapyard from a 240 wagon, they'll fit sedans with no problem.  SignatureMike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Replace tt with t (twice!) and remove parentheses to email me directly. (But I check the newsgroup more often than this email address.) > Self leveling suspension on a 240? I thought that was only offered on > 760s? Interesting that, as far as all my sources go they weren't available on 240's either. The previous owner (my dad) replaced the originals at ~70k because they were knackered and was told they were self-levelling types. So that's what was fitted. The springs are saggy anyway (six years of horse trailering) so I'll get new ones. Bushes seem a good idea (Polyurethane?), not sure I'll be able to find anybody in the UK that supplies uprated sway bars though. I wonder if IPD will ship to the UK economically. A Google site seemed to suggest the GLT's had stiffer suspension than the rest, anybody know if this is true? David <snip> > A Google site seemed to suggest the GLT's had stiffer suspension than the > rest, anybody know if this is true? > > David The early GLT's had a slightly heavier sway bar front and rear, RSport gas shocks, and the same or slightly softer springs than the DL, GL models. Bob SignatureThe goal when driving is to miss the maximum number of objects. > <snip> > > A Google site seemed to suggest the GLT's had stiffer suspension than the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > gas shocks, and the same or slightly softer springs than the DL, GL > models. Weren't the GLTs identical to the Turbo models but with the standard engine? > > <snip> > > > A Google site seemed to suggest the GLT's had stiffer suspension than [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Weren't the GLTs identical to the Turbo models but with the standard engine? The US version was the standard B21F, Halloween interior, Silver paint with black and orange trim, alloy wheels, top mount strut supports, subdued "chrome" trim. I think they ran 79-80 or 81. The last year didn't have the garish exterior striping. Bob SignatureThe goal when driving is to miss the maximum number of objects. > > > <snip> > > > > A Google site seemed to suggest the GLT's had stiffer suspension than [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Bob That's not the GLT, that's the GT you're describing, quite a different beast and only available in a 2 door sedan. >> The US version was the standard B21F, Halloween interior, Silver paint >> with black and orange trim, alloy wheels, top mount strut supports, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > beast > and only available in a 2 door sedan. I was under the impression (though I have nothing to back this up at all, and I've never even driven one) that the UK GLT's all were turbos (hence my comment). I have a book somewhere that will have the answers, I'll report back in due course! I did this job with a 740, wouldn't think the 240 is any different. You may be able to pick up a pair of nivomats from a breakers. Failing that, with the 740 it was a matter of changing the shocks and the rear springs. Stiffer ones are neccessary (found that out by trial and error. To beef up the suspension, perhaps adjustable shocks or there are ways of assisting the springs as in for caravan towing, though if you go for this option, you will be stuck with a stiffer ride all the time. Regards, Roy > >> The US version was the standard B21F, Halloween interior, Silver paint > >> with black and orange trim, alloy wheels, top mount strut supports, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I have a book somewhere that will have the answers, I'll report back in due > course! Quite the opposite- we never got any 240 Turbos in the UK. The biggest 4 cyl engine in the 240 we had was the 2.3 B230F in the GLT with 136bhp. Tim.. > > >> The US version was the standard B21F, Halloween interior, Silver paint > > >> with black and orange trim, alloy wheels, top mount strut supports, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Tim.. I believe that was the B230E, the F version is 114 HP. > Quite the opposite- we never got any 240 Turbos in the UK. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tim.. This is true, I've checked with my history book. I've been living a misguided life all these years! All those 240's with the five spoke alloys aren't turbos! I just assumed the T in GLT stood for Turbo, but no. I'm devastated!!! Oh well. David > > Quite the opposite- we never got any 240 Turbos in the UK. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > aren't turbos! I just assumed the T in GLT stood for Turbo, but no. I'm > devastated!!! Alas not! Had Volvo actually stiffed the suspension and anti roll bars for the production versions of the GLT as they did with the Police spec ones they trialed in the UK (and were sold abroad) and dropped in the turbo engine, we would have had a much more worthy 240 ! Tim.. > > > Quite the opposite- we never got any 240 Turbos in the UK. > > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Tim.. I've heard of people dropping turbo motors into RHD 240's, but apparently it's a real tight fit with the turbo, brake booster and steering shaft all on the same side and requires some fancy exhaust work and other fiddling to make it all fit. > > > > Quite the opposite- we never got any 240 Turbos in the UK. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > on the same side and requires some fancy exhaust work and other fiddling to > make it all fit. On the 240 there is a fair bit of room and the B230FT fits lovely. On the 360, the same is possible, but you do need a custom exhaust down pipe from the turbo, and if you have PAS (advisable) custom hoses are also required- in heat wrap. The holes in the front panel for the intercooler pipes are even present, and a stock 700series i/c just bolts right in! Tim.. > >> The US version was the standard B21F, Halloween interior, Silver paint > >> with black and orange trim, alloy wheels, top mount strut supports, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I have a book somewhere that will have the answers, I'll report back in due > course! I don't know about UK GLTs, but the US they sold a few GLTs, and in canada sold them for several more years that were at least asthetically a 240 Turbo with a standard B21 or B23 engine. Of course to confuse things more, a lot of people refer to the GL trim 240 Turbos as GLTs, even though on the back they say "Turbo" while the GLTs say "GLT". > The suspension in my 1992 240 SE (UK spec) is due for a renovation soon - > the back is saggy and the front shocks are on their way out. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > David That happened to our 765, too. I went with standard (Boge?) shocks and overload springs from IPD. Yes, the springs have to be changed out, but the price was still attractive compared to even the aftermarket price of the Nivomats. It was also way easier than I thought - once the shock was out there was only a single bolt holding the spring. The ride is firmer than the original shocks were (the best I can remember before the originals went bad) but I am happy. I've carried 800 lbs of block in the back without trouble. Mike |
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