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Pyrotechnical Tensioners

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ipellew@pipemedia.co.uk - 24 Aug 2005 20:41 GMT
Hi All;

I have a 95 960 Saloon and on the drivers (UK) door pillar is a
warning:-
Pyrotechnical tensioners need changing after 10 years.

Any one know any details about this?

Is it a Non Vovlo trained job, IE can us dumbo Diyers do it.

What is the cost?

I cannot even imagine what this is.

Regards
Ian
blurp - 24 Aug 2005 21:23 GMT
Pyrotechnic Tensioners are part of the seatbelt system and are
activated on impact and apply great force to reduce the belt slack. As
the name implies I believe they use a small explosive charge like the
airbag would so they can exert force rapidly.

I also believe that you're supposed to have the airbag similarly
serviced/checked every 10 years, possibly sooner.

blurp

>Hi All;
>
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>Regards
>Ian
Bonnet Lock - 24 Aug 2005 22:08 GMT
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,

> Pyrotechnic Tensioners are part of the seatbelt system and are
> activated on impact and apply great force to reduce the belt slack. As
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>
> blurp

Interesting name for them! Sounds like you get a free firework display if
you crash! <g>
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ipellew@pipemedia.co.uk - 25 Aug 2005 23:01 GMT
This is rather nasty as my wife has a friend who was very badly burnt
in the face and arms when the airbag was fired in an accident, as it
turned out she suffered far more injury from the airbag than she would
from the accident.

Poor women is still suffering after 12 months and has vowed to not use
Airbags, but then what happens in an insurance claim?

Regards
Ian
Randy G. - 25 Aug 2005 23:23 GMT
>This is rather nasty as my wife has a friend who was very badly burnt
>in the face and arms when the airbag was fired in an accident, as it
>turned out she suffered far more injury from the airbag than she would
>from the accident.

What was the year, model, make of the car?

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ipellew@pipemedia.co.uk - 30 Aug 2005 11:27 GMT
Hi;

I have no idea what the car was, Just that wifes work colleage is still
suffering.

I would like to think that todays Airbag have overcome this problem as
I have heard several stories of folks being burnt by airbag
detenations.

I have a 1995 Airbag in my Volvo 960, so I keep my fingers crossed.

Regards
Ian
Michael Pardee - 30 Aug 2005 15:55 GMT
> I would like to think that todays Airbag have overcome this problem as
> I have heard several stories of folks being burnt by airbag
> detenations.

Supposedly, newer bags are "progressive" so they are more gentle at lesser
impacts.

I worked with a man and a woman who were injured by airbags in separate
incidents. The woman looked like she had been severely beaten - her entire
face was badly bruised and the skin was scraped from the inside of both
forearms. Still, she was grateful for the protection. Okay.... The man had
also been making a left turn when he was hit head-on. The airbag broke both
arms across his face; an object lesson in not using cross-over hand action
when turning in airbag equipped cars.

Mike
Alex Zepeda - 30 Aug 2005 22:32 GMT
> I worked with a man and a woman who were injured by airbags in separate
> incidents. The woman looked like she had been severely beaten - her entire
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> arms across his face; an object lesson in not using cross-over hand action
> when turning in airbag equipped cars.

Also a good idea to never put anything on the airbag'd steering wheel,
keep your hands at the proper (different from the previously recommended
non airbag'd recommendations) positions, thumbs on the outside of the
wheel, and WEAR YOUR SEAT BELTS.  Without a seat belt, an air bag can turn
a minor accident into a very serious one, very quickly.

Air bags are work with violent force, such force should not be
underestimated.

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Clay - 25 Aug 2005 23:35 GMT
> This is rather nasty as my wife has a friend who was very badly burnt
> in the face and arms when the airbag was fired in an accident, as it
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> Regards
> Ian

Well, as my uncle is fond of saying,
an airbag only means the difference between an open or closed coffin.

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Peter K L Milnes - 26 Aug 2005 02:00 GMT
She is still alive isn't she? That's what the airbag is for, to prevent loss
of life.

All the best, Peter.

> This is rather nasty as my wife has a friend who was very badly burnt
> in the face and arms when the airbag was fired in an accident, as it
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> Regards
> Ian
Peter K L Milnes - 25 Aug 2005 00:38 GMT
The change period has been upped to 15 years. If you know what you are doing
changing the pyrotechnic part is surprisingly easy. You need to know what
precautions to take when handling explosives as you could get a nasty burn
or worse from misuse. You need to unplug the electrical connector with
electrics dead. Do not switch on electrics until you have completed the
task. Once unplugged the detonator (which is what it is) can be unscrewed
from the housing. It is best to arrange for a short circuit to be present
across the detonator's pins before removal and during replacement. When
safely installed the connector can be refitted to the detonator. When the
task has been completed and before replacing the panels and carpet switch on
the electrics to make sure that detonation is not triggered. After a
successful test you can then replace the carpet and panels.

It is important to keep in mind the fact that if you haven't a clue as to
what you are about to embark on take it to the dealer or seatbelt
specialist.

All the best, Peter.

700/900/90 Register Keeper,
Volvo Owners Club (UK).

> Hi All;
>
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> Regards
> Ian
User - 29 Aug 2005 03:42 GMT
> The change period has been upped to 15 years. If you know what you are doing
> changing the pyrotechnic part is surprisingly easy. You need to know what
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> > Regards
> > Ian

The gold plated pins inside the orange connectors on all Volvo's are
self shorting when unplugged. The charge cylinder and the seat belt reel
assembly are one piece and replaced as a unit.

Bob
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Peter K L Milnes - 30 Aug 2005 00:09 GMT
I can assure you that they are not self shorting. Why else would Volvo go to
the trouble of providing a special shorting link for when the steering wheel
is removed (for, say, tracking purposes or horn button replacement) and when
replacing front seat belts. I have just had six of the seven seat belts
fitted to my car replaced and can assure you that the dealer used his
special shorting links and disconnected the battery during replacement.

All the best, Peter.

700/900/90 Register Keeper,
Volvo Owners Club (UK).

>> The change period has been upped to 15 years. If you know what you are
>> doing
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>
> Bob
Mike F - 30 Aug 2005 13:27 GMT
> I can assure you that they are not self shorting. Why else would Volvo go to
> the trouble of providing a special shorting link for when the steering wheel
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> 700/900/90 Register Keeper,
> Volvo Owners Club (UK).

The components (e.g. airbag) are self shorting, so random static won't
set them off.  The car harnesses aren't self shorting, and what you call
shorting links, are actually component simulators - something to install
in the system in place of an airbag for testing purposes.  If you're
just removing an airbag or seatbelt for another reason, there's no need
to use these devices as long as the airbag system is not powered up.

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