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960, what to look for?
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Marc Onrust - 29 Oct 2005 21:03 GMT Hi,
I might be interested in buying a Volvo 960 because they are relatively cheap to buy and offer so much comfort and luxury in return. Although I recently owned an 850 and later an S60 D5 (sold it because I started my own company with office at home), I'm totally new to the 960. Can someone tell me whether this car has specific weaknesses I should know? I'm especially interested in the facelifted modell ('95 and later?) with the 2.5 or 3 liter engine and automatic gearbox. Probably it will have run 250,000kms (156,000miles) or more.
All information, hints etc are seriously appreciated!
Cheers Marc The Netherlands
James Sweet - 29 Oct 2005 21:21 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Marc > The Netherlands Keep up on timing belt changes because if it breaks the engine will be destroyed before you know what happened. Other than that they're pretty solid cars.
Marc Onrust - 30 Oct 2005 06:39 GMT >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > destroyed before you know what happened. Other than that they're pretty > solid cars. Thanks for your answer. So I shouldn't worry too much about automatic gearboxes, differentials and electronics?
Randy G. - 30 Oct 2005 17:53 GMT >>> Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Thanks for your answer. So I shouldn't worry too much about automatic gearboxes, >differentials and electronics? With a 960 of that mileage I would make sure that they can show that regular oil changes (around every 3000 miles, +/-) and tranny fluid changes (about every 25,000-50,000 or so is what I like) have been done throughout its life. Longer intervals are acceptable if there is evidence of synthetic lubes being used. Additionally, open the oil fill cap and look to see if there is a lot of crud builtup in there. Pull the tranny dipstick and smell it to be sure it doesn't smell burnt. Test the anti-lock brakes at around 35mph. If the suspension is good it will stop with authority without excessive pulsing or suspension hop. Once it is warmed up put the tranny in S mode (if so equipped) and stick your foot in it and check that it shifts with authority.
__ __ Randy & \ \/ /alerie's \__/olvos '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate "Shelby" & "Kate"
Peter K L Milnes - 31 Oct 2005 01:39 GMT 960s should use fully synthetic ATF from factory which Volvo say does not need replacing during the life of the car. In UK we recommend that fluid is replaced every 100,000 miles as an extra precaution.
All the best, Peter.
700/900/90 Register Keeper, Volvo Owners Club (UK).
>>>> Hi, >>>> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate > "Shelby" & "Kate" Tim.. - 31 Oct 2005 02:31 GMT > 960s should use fully synthetic ATF from factory which Volvo say does not > need replacing during the life of the car. In UK we recommend that fluid is > replaced every 100,000 miles as an extra precaution. 50k or even less if you regularly tow is the recommendation actually.
Tim..
Peter K L Milnes - 01 Nov 2005 01:51 GMT Tim I made the recommendation on behalf of the VOC which stands at 100,000 miles if using the correct fully synthetic ATF for the AW30-40 and AW30-43 gearboxes fitted to 960/90 series cars. Also for The Europe market 2.5 Litre models with M90 gearbox (manual) which also uses fully synthetic ATF.
All the best, Peter.
700/900/90 Register Keeper, Volvo Owners Club (UK).
>> 960s should use fully synthetic ATF from factory which Volvo say does not >> need replacing during the life of the car. In UK we recommend that fluid [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tim.. James Sweet - 01 Nov 2005 06:14 GMT > Tim I made the recommendation on behalf of the VOC which stands at 100,000 > miles if using the correct fully synthetic ATF for the AW30-40 and AW30-43 > gearboxes fitted to 960/90 series cars. Also for The Europe market 2.5 Litre > models with M90 gearbox (manual) which also uses fully synthetic ATF. *drool* a 960 with an M90 gearbox would be a fantastic car, over here the entire 900 series only has the silly slushboxes.
Peter K L Milnes - 02 Nov 2005 02:05 GMT I have a feeling that someone has done that over here, like stuck an M90 on a three Litre 960/90. It sure does perform sweetly!!
All the best, Peter.
700/900/90 Register Keeper, Volvo Owners Club (UK).
>> Tim I made the recommendation on behalf of the VOC which stands at >> 100,000 miles if using the correct fully synthetic ATF for the AW30-40 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > *drool* a 960 with an M90 gearbox would be a fantastic car, over here the > entire 900 series only has the silly slushboxes. James Sweet - 30 Oct 2005 19:53 GMT >>>Hi, >>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Thanks for your answer. So I shouldn't worry too much about automatic gearboxes, > differentials and electronics? Well you should check that all that stuff is working, but there's no glaring weak spots in any of that stuff.
Marc Onrust - 31 Oct 2005 10:47 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Marc > The Netherlands Thanks for all your answers. It appears to me that the 960 is a pretty problemless car if it is maintained at the right intervals. Buying one with 150k + miles (220k + kms) should give me at least 100k miles of driving pleasure without the engine or transmission dying on me. Well, looks good to me.
Peter K L Milnes - 01 Nov 2005 01:55 GMT Provided you change the cambelt at the stipulated regular intervals.
All the best, Peter.
700/900/90 Register Keeper, Volvo Owners Club (UK).
>> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > to > me. Rob Guenther - 31 Oct 2005 23:09 GMT That its been maintained properly... Pretty much it, you might find the A/C doesn't work, many people don't repair those... ours was just a series of bad gaskets and one bad section of pipe... Some people assume it's the condensor or evaporator and leave it.
Our power drivers seat memory kind of sucks.... you have to manually correct it to get it right.
The radio stopped working on Tape and FM - I got a used radio from an 850 for 30 bucks.
Rear shocks are expensive
Our brake rotors lasted 160K Kms tho! all around, and no new calipers.
Make sure the tranny fluid and timing belt changes were kept up.
Ours in a 1993 and it feels pretty new aside from the squeaks from the dashboard.
> Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Marc > The Netherlands Randy G. - 01 Nov 2005 01:53 GMT Hey there, Rob! Haven't talked to you in some time... How's it going. As you can see by the sig, we gots us tu-u-dem now! ;-)
>That its been maintained properly... Pretty much it, you might find the A/C >doesn't work, many people don't repair those... ours was just a series of [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> Marc >> The Netherlands __ __ Randy & \ \/ /alerie's \__/olvos '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate "Shelby" & "Kate"
Rob Guenther - 01 Nov 2005 02:27 GMT My Volvo newsgroup stopped working for months... literally MONTHS... Everythings good... the old 960 feels like its new again with her new suspension and brakes all around. And her A/C is now ice cold since they fixed all the leaks and recharged it with some "colder" refrigerant (new technology stuff I guess)... Engine still pulls hard and such - and it drinks 0 drops of oil... and it broke the illustrious 100K Mile/160K Kms mark (has 169K Kms on it now!!)
She had a minor electrical fault with the taillamps this summer tho... I put a new bulb in, cleaned the contacts but the bulb fail light still lit... restarted the car another time and it went away :-)
The Volkswagon fleet (the 2 Golfs) have been running perfectly with no problems other then routine maintenance.
Congrats on the 2nd Volvo... Gotta love the 240s... I want to get one for some amateur racing, but I'm sure that will cost me too much damn money.
> Hey there, Rob! Haven't talked to you in some time... How's it going. > As you can see by the sig, we gots us tu-u-dem now! ;-) [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate > "Shelby" & "Kate" Randy G. - 01 Nov 2005 04:32 GMT The local independant Volvo guy campaigns a 240 that is quite trick. he even went completely over the pan to make it as aerodynamic as the rules allow. It is even street legal.. sort of. It does have a plate and before a race, to be sure it is ready, he runs it up a local canyon road. I would love to race but, as you stated, it is a hobby for folks without either life, wife, or financial restrictions... maybe all three! ;-)
>My Volvo newsgroup stopped working for months... literally MONTHS... >Everythings good... the old 960 feels like its new again with her new [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] >> '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate >> "Shelby" & "Kate" __ __ Randy & \ \/ /alerie's \__/olvos '90 245 Estate - '93 965 Estate "Shelby" & "Kate"
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