>Has anyone ever tried installing third party seat elements? I'm curious
>because I have an 89 240 wagon with worn out heated seats which I'd
>REALLY like to repair..
Many of the newer cars use a carbon fiber mesh fabric that is
conductive and heats very evenly. I knew of one fellow (with whom I
have no contact) who found a source of the material and was using it
for heated motorcycle apparel. You can literally shoot bullet holes in
the stuff and it continues to heat by conducting around the holes.
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Crazy Dog - 09 Dec 2005 09:07 GMT
I knew of one fellow (with whom I
> have no contact) who found a source of the material and was using it
> for heated motorcycle apparel. You can literally shoot bullet holes in
> the stuff and it continues to heat by conducting around the holes.
LOL. It helps the blood congeal quicker. ;)

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greywagon - 10 Dec 2005 20:23 GMT
Yeah, I saw some products like this online. I guess if I can't actually
repair the existing system, I'll go with something like this. Thanks.
> Has anyone ever tried installing third party seat elements? I'm curious
> because I have an 89 240 wagon with worn out heated seats which I'd
> REALLY like to repair..
You may be able to repair the original heaters, in 240's it's usually
just the wire breaks off the thermostat in the seat cushion.
greywagon - 10 Dec 2005 20:20 GMT
Hmmm. Okay, I'm going to have a look. No if only I had somewhere warm
to work on it :(
James Sweet - 11 Dec 2005 04:05 GMT
> Hmmm. Okay, I'm going to have a look. No if only I had somewhere warm
> to work on it :(
Unbolt the seat and bring it inside, that's what I've done as the only
time one ever realizes the seat heaters don't work is when it's too cold
to work on them outside.
greywagon - 12 Dec 2005 13:34 GMT
> Has anyone ever tried installing third party seat elements? I'm curious
> because I have an 89 240 wagon with worn out heated seats which I'd
> REALLY like to repair..
Hi,
I just replaced the elements in my 760GLE. The old units probably could
have been repaired. The resistive wire broke within the circuit, and
actually burned the cushion and the pad/element. I could have simply
trimmed back the material and soldered the wires together, test, and
re-install.
However, what I did do was:
Found 12V resistive elements at a surplus store... installed them in the OE
units place, and voila!!! freakin' beautiful!! They get quite warm (maxes
out at 50C, which is hot..) They were not for seat heaters originally, but,
I knew they would work. $5 each!!! (Canadian!).
The only trouble I had was the lower cushion, I could not get the center tie
downs to fit in because of the contour of the cushion. I eliminated them
and it works/looks fine. The backrest came out perfect, punched holes in
the heater and voila!!
SUPER WARM!! :)
The carbon fiber elements are good, they are a bit expensive, but you can
cut them to any size without breaking the circuit (depending "how" you cut
it/where). They are quite flexible, and will outlast just about anything
else.
Check your Volvo dealer, I bet the old heater elements might go cheap!
PLUS, if they are like the 760 units, they actually cover the entire seat
pad area, not just a tiny portion like new cars do.
Cheers
James Sweet - 11 Dec 2005 19:09 GMT
> Found 12V resistive elements at a surplus store... installed them in the OE
> units place, and voila!!! freakin' beautiful!! They get quite warm (maxes
> out at 50C, which is hot..) They were not for seat heaters originally, but,
> I knew they would work. $5 each!!! (Canadian!).
Don't suppose the surplus place has any more of those? If so I'd be
interested in a set, my 700 has the heaters embedded in the foam, both
seats are open circuit.
> Has anyone ever tried installing third party seat elements? I'm curious
> because I have an 89 240 wagon with worn out heated seats which I'd
> REALLY like to repair..
Is this repair applicable to the 850? I have been told the elements are NOT
replaceable. True/false? Comments about replacing the heating elements in
an 850?
Where can I get this carbon fiber heating stuff on-line? I live in Canada
but go into the USA once a month so shipping it to my USA address should be
no problem.
Thanks.
Ken
Winnipeg