> hitting fuel cut off, but more likely you are experiencing compressor surge.
Surge happens when the compressor forces more air into it's turbine side
than the turbine is capable of handling. For instance if you turn up the
boost via a bleed or G Valve, and are asking for 16 hypothetical lbs from a
turbo that can really only handle 12 psi, the compressor will be forcing
more into the turbine side (or surging) than that turbine can handle. The
effect is that the car seems to be stalling, or briefly lurching. It can
repeat a few times in quick succession. If you can get a hold of a
compressor map for your specific turbo, you can see what the safe and
reliable PSI range for your turbo is. You may be able to get 20 lbs right
now, but if you are running out of fuel, or getting compressor surge, it
might be time to turn it down a bit before you melt a piston, or get a
bigger turbo.
It's a rare b230ft that will reliably run 20 psi all day without some fairly
hefty mods, although I know guys who run around 18 without heavy mods. It's
do-able for sure, there are crazy Swedes who get 700 hp, setting it up as a
drag motor. But get ready for some serious $$ if you want to extract that
kind of power from a 4cyl Volvo block.
I have no knowledge of a B200 engine. To be honest, I never heard of that
engine before tonight, and thought is was a typo. I continue to learn.
RS
>> hitting fuel cut off, but more likely you are experiencing compressor
>> surge.
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> -K
Kelsey Cummings - 12 Jan 2006 17:57 GMT
> Surge happens when the compressor forces more air into it's turbine side
> than the turbine is capable of handling. For instance if you turn up the
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> might be time to turn it down a bit before you melt a piston, or get a
> bigger turbo.
Thanks - that make sense. I talked to IPD about it a little while ago
and Scott reassured me that 18-20psi is fine on the 99 R motors. Seems
like it's pushing the edge though - especially with the crappy CA gas
that I have to burn.
> I have no knowledge of a B200 engine. To be honest, I never heard of that
> engine before tonight, and thought is was a typo. I continue to learn.
Same here.
-K
~^ beancounter ~^ - 12 Jan 2006 19:43 GMT
I have discovered (for my self and my driving style)
18-22 psi is just too much power for my 1993 940t...
the rear tyres always break loose, and the car is fast
... so fast, I didn't feel very safe drivin' it like that...
all the time ... I would not let other folks drive the car, as
you had to "know what you are doin'" to keep it under control
and out of "dicy situations".....so, I turned down the boost to
a more confortable setting...I think I hit 8-12 now...It seems
nice, smooth, and strong....my only weak point is/was
the tranny......a buddie of mine who is tweeking his 93 940t
in a "big way" put in a bmw tranny w/some upgraded plates
and clutches...he told me it works like a dream...smooth, and
no blow ups w/all the extra torque and power.....the b230's are
a great platform to build up on...that's for sure......(imho)
Timewarp - 12 Jan 2006 20:29 GMT
I've got my head round this now.
I will try a few things and let the group know what happens.
Mant thanks all.
Clive.