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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / January 2006

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2006 v70 airbag problem

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ksampson3@excite.com - 16 Jan 2006 03:07 GMT
i just bought a new 2006 v70 a few days ago and i am having problems
already. when i test drove the car at the dealer before i bought it,
there was a warning on the dash that said "passenger side airbag off.
urgent service needed." (or something close to that message). the
dealer "fixed" it before i bought the car and when it was delivered,
this message was gone.
i said to the salesman who delivered the car "ok, you have my money
now. what do i need to know about the car that you haven't told me?" he
responded that he was pretty sure that i wouldn't get the message back
again, but "volvo is going to recall that (passenger) seat in about 5
or 6 months."  !!!!!!! don't you think that i should have been told
this before i bought the car?

well, guess what? after driving it for about 10 miles a couple of days
later, the message came back on.
has anyone else had this problem? i am pissed.

thanks,
jim
Jabber - 16 Jan 2006 16:51 GMT
Um.... so take it back and either get them to fix it properly or get
your money back. If they know about the recall they should have told
you before purchasing. And again, if they knew about the recall they
must have a temporary fix until seat replacement. If not there will be
loads of V70 owners complaining.

Jordan 1999 S70 Loaded!

> i just bought a new 2006 v70 a few days ago and i am having problems
> already. when i test drove the car at the dealer before i bought it,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> thanks,
> jim
Stephen Henning - 16 Jan 2006 17:21 GMT
> Um.... so take it back and either get them to fix it properly or get
> your money back. If they know about the recall they should have told
> you before purchasing. And again, if they knew about the recall they
> must have a temporary fix until seat replacement. If not there will be
> loads of V70 owners complaining.

Most states have a lemon law and if the same problem is fixed three
times you can get your money back or something to that effect.
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mypublicmail@adelphia.net - 16 Jan 2006 18:37 GMT
Thanks for the warning.  I bought an 06 v70 2.5T just a few days ago.
So far, all is normal re air bag warnings.  But does this recall
business mean the passenger side *might* not work?  I'm thinking about
going back for something else.  I feel a tad too much engine vibration
at idle for this expensive of a car.  When I pointed it out to the
salesman  (we're both sitting in the car idling), he said it was cold.
When I showed him that the temp gauge was straight up, he said, "Oh,
you can't go by that."  Then he said, the engine was new so a little
vibration was normal.  I don't know ....

Good luck to both of us,
Dennis
Steve - 16 Jan 2006 22:54 GMT
Bring it back and ONLY complain about the airbag light.  The idea is to
establish a lemon law trail.
When you bring it in for the airbag light make that your only issue.
Three tries and you can lemon law the car in many states.

> i just bought a new 2006 v70 a few days ago and i am having problems
> already. when i test drove the car at the dealer before i bought it,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> thanks,
> jim
ksampson3@excite.com - 17 Jan 2006 13:03 GMT
thanks for the replies. i checked the lemon law in maryland and it's
actually 4 tries to get it right. believe me, i've started a paper
trail already.

thanks again,
jim
PS - 18 Jan 2006 16:59 GMT
The salesman's comment makes no sense to me.  Why would Volvo delay and or
"telegraph" a recall if the decision has been made to make a recll--or not
as the case may be? Seems like there would be some serious liability issues
there, especially with a safety device such as an airbag.  What does the
dealer service rep say about a recall. Might want to ask him that question
with the salesman standing there...

Check out the online Volvo forums, like http://forums.swedespeed.com/
http://www.volvoxc.com/forums/ www.vvspy.com and others.  If there is a
problem significant enough to warrant a recall, it is likely that it will
have made it to these forums.  There are also a few Volvo salesman that post
regularly on Swedespeed. They seem to be well informed and are straight
talkers, get a second opinion from another party.

There is a code (DTC) that goes with the warning message that should
identify the locationof the fault, look at your paperwork and if it's not
there ask them for it. What was it?

Good luck,
'nother V70 owner

> i just bought a new 2006 v70 a few days ago and i am having problems
> already. when i test drove the car at the dealer before i bought it,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> thanks,
> jim
ksampson3@excite.com - 19 Jan 2006 20:47 GMT
well, i picked the car back up today and it turns out that they didn't
replace the passenger seat weight sensor because it was on back order
(service manager's words, not mine). instead, he said that he had to
contact the volvo tech line (volvo n.a., i assume) and get a tech
assist from them. the following is verbatim from the paperwork that was
given to me when i picked the car up:

"passenger air bag lamp is on. fault trace for code 025D set in srs for
occupant weight sensor. r&r front seat to inspect connections for ows.
check ok clear code. code resets after 5 restarts. call tech line. tech
line recommends to replace buckle force sensor. replace buckle force
sensor per volvo tech line."

sounds to me like a possible temporary fix because they didn't have the
correct part in stock. i don't get a real warm fuzzy about this whole
thing.

jim
Glenn Klein - 20 Jan 2006 00:10 GMT
> well, i picked the car back up today and it turns out that they didn't
> replace the passenger seat weight sensor because it was on back order
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> jim

Done this before solves the problem the OW sensor is not subject to
failure as for contacting the tech hot line this means that the part is
either on backorder or a restricted part either way Volvo cars is
involved with your complaint on your new car
Glenn

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Steve - 20 Jan 2006 02:34 GMT
Keep the documentation

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> well, i picked the car back up today and it turns out that they didn't
> replace the passenger seat weight sensor because it was on back order
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> jim
ksampson3@excite.com - 20 Jan 2006 15:58 GMT
glenn,
what does it mean when you say that "volvo cars is involved with your
complaint"? can i use this to my advantage in some way? if i do need to
do the lemon law thing, is it better to have "volvo cars" involved from
the get-go?

thanks again,
jim
 
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