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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / April 2006

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volvo newbie...interested in a wagon

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dhoch14@gmail.com - 17 Apr 2006 21:54 GMT
So the time has come for me to get rid of my gas guzzling 2000 Jeep
Grand Cherokee.

I've heard great things about volvo's and their reliability. My
question is kind of broad, but any help would be greatly appreciated.

I am thinking of purchasing a 90's wagon, but don't know which models
are the most reliable. I am not really a fan of the 240 in terms of
looks, so that is out of the question.

What are some recommendations and prices I should expect to pay? Are
there specific year + models I should avoid? I'd like to have some of
the modern car features, descent stereo, A/C, etc.

Thanks in advance!

-Dave
Robert Lutwak - 18 Apr 2006 00:15 GMT
You've heard of legendary Volvo reliability.  They earned that reputation
with the 260 and 240 series and cashed out on it with the 850's.

If you want a fancy stereo and power windows, look at the 740 or 940, which
were just fancy 240's.  The 850's and everything that came after (V70, XC70,
etc.) are about as reliable as Fords.  If you want something newer than the
940 with legendary Volvo reliability, find yourself a Camry wagon.

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-RL

> So the time has come for me to get rid of my gas guzzling 2000 Jeep
> Grand Cherokee.
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>
> -Dave
kraft.fhs@gmail.com - 18 Apr 2006 01:04 GMT
I have a 1993 Volvo 940 sedan (basically same as wagon) that has been
running great for the last thirteen years...no major service issues,
never had to take it back to the dealer. However, I also have a 1998
Volvo XC70 that would have been better off staying at the dealer
forever...its been back so many times I've lost count. Seems like
something major goes wrong about every two months...

If you want any Volvo, buy one before the Ford takeover in 1995: that
was their golden years.
AND Books - 18 Apr 2006 01:20 GMT
i *totally* agree! i drive nothing but volvos since the 544, and have found
that iff you can find a lo-mile 245 '90-'93 (<100K) for under $3000, just
buy it now... auto,stick,sunroof,leather, doesn't matter, don't ever get into
front wheel drive, 5 cylinders, Peugot engineering... stay with the winner
or buy a Camry... BTW the older JEEPS were ok -- they're still my second
choice (six cyl)...

do not get suckered with newer Volvo fluff!

good luck...

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: You've heard of legendary Volvo reliability.  They earned that reputation
: with the 260 and 240 series and cashed out on it with the 850's.

: If you want a fancy stereo and power windows, look at the 740 or 940, which
: were just fancy 240's.  The 850's and everything that came after (V70, XC70,
: etc.) are about as reliable as Fords.  If you want something newer than the
: 940 with legendary Volvo reliability, find yourself a Camry wagon.

: -----

: -RL

:> So the time has come for me to get rid of my gas guzzling 2000 Jeep
:> Grand Cherokee.
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:>
:> -Dave
Michael Cerkowski - 18 Apr 2006 11:39 GMT
If gas mileage is a main concern, look for a wagon with
a manual transmission, and be warned that they are rare after
the mid '80's. If you want reliabilty, safety, *and* good fuel
economy with an automatic, consider the relatively rare Camry
wagon instead. It will likely get 3-6 mpg more than a similar
Volvo wagon.
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James Sweet - 20 Apr 2006 05:39 GMT
> So the time has come for me to get rid of my gas guzzling 2000 Jeep
> Grand Cherokee.
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>
> -Dave

You might look at the 850 series, they've been out for a while now and
seem to be holding up pretty well. If you can find one with a manual
gearbox the fuel economy is pretty decent.
zencraps@comcast.net - 20 Apr 2006 15:57 GMT
Consider a Honda Fit.

Coming soon to America, but already established elsewhere around the
world.

A very small wagon-like car, great mileage, good fit and finish, and
best of all it handles damned near like a sports car.

Mid teens on price, and best of all, it's a Honda.
Steve - 20 Apr 2006 23:55 GMT
I agree with everything you say save the fuel factoid.
The fit/jazz is 38 epg MPG...same as oh...a corolla
a civic gets 40 with the auto box...

why?  Civics got in the mid 40's 15 years ago...

> Consider a Honda Fit.
>
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> Mid teens on price, and best of all, it's a Honda.
Robert - 21 Apr 2006 00:12 GMT
Personally, I'm considering a Fit as a future replacement for my 1993
Volvo 940 sedan, when it dies (I think it still has 3-4 more years in
it); I want to wait and find out if the Fit is as reliable as the Honda
name suggests. But if you're looking for more room and still a
bargain-basement price, the Camry wagon is a good alternative to a
Volvo. 1996 was an especially good year, in my opinion, and stay with a
four-cylinder, it has adequate power especially for the wagon. The V6
is largely unecessary unless you plan on towing.

One caution with the Camrys, though...they definitely don't have all
the safety advantages of a Volvo, so if you have a family I'd sacrifice
the gas and the price and get the Volvo, Camrys only had two airbags
(front driver/front passenger) and definitely didn't get the ratings
the same-generation Volvos did.
zencraps@comcast.net - 20 Apr 2006 16:01 GMT
Consider a Honda Fit.

Coming soon to America, but already established elsewhere around the
world.

A very small wagon-like car, great mileage, good fit and finish, and
the car magazines say that it handles damned near like a sports car.

Mid teens on price, and best of all, it's a Honda.

The problem with your choice to look at an older Volvo wagon is that
none of them are fuel efficient.

My wife drives a '91 740 which is a good car, leather, nice ride, and
great build quality and reliability but mpg around 20-24: that's pretty
good, but not good enough to get excited about.

I drive an '82 244 Turbo that averages 18-22 mpg.
 
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