Determining Which Rear Brakes

Determining Which Rear Brakes - '88 240

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Michael Cerkowski - 03 May 2006 05:19 GMT

The Haynes manual doesn't seem to match what is on the
ID plates in the car at all. Can someone post exactly how
to determine from the ID plates which rear grakes (Girling
or ATE) our 240 has? I'm not well enough to pull a wheel,
and we want to make sure that the shop we trust to work on
them has the parts in stock. Thanks in advance.

(Swedish Bricks doesn't give this info - they have you look
at the calipers, and the rear ones aren't distictive enough
to tell apart without removing a wheel.)

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zencraps@comcast.net - 03 May 2006 05:37 GMT

http://www.fcpgroton.com/images/271668OES.jpg

ATE shown here

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Michael Cerkowski - 03 May 2006 05:45 GMT

> http://www.fcpgroton.com/images/271668OES.jpg
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> ATE shown here

Thanks, but I need to be able to tell without removing the
rear wheel.

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Alex Zepeda - 03 May 2006 08:17 GMT

> Thanks, but I need to be able to tell without removing the
> rear wheel.

Why? Taking off the wheel is damn easy, as is identifying the caliper
once the wheel is off. Then again, I haven't seen much variety in rear
calipers on 240s. Not in the US at least. Hell, a visual identification
is the only way to surely identify which caliper you have (given that
they're both interchangeable).

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Michael Cerkowski - 03 May 2006 10:54 GMT

> > Thanks, but I need to be able to tell without removing the
> > rear wheel.
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> alex

It's not that easy when your back is threatening to go out and you
have life-threatening health problems. The Haynes manual says that the
serial numbers tell which brakes are used, and I was hoping that even
though they seem to have gotten the details wrong, that might actually
be possible. If I could easily pull a wheel, I'd probably also do the
pads myself.

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Mike F - 03 May 2006 16:46 GMT

> It's not that easy when your back is threatening to go out and you
> have life-threatening health problems. The Haynes manual says that the
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It's real easy to tell. In fact I can tell from here. Your calipers
are ATE on the rear.

All North American 240s used ATE on the rear starting in 1977, the
Girling ones were never adapted for the triangle crash plates that hit
the bracket on the caliper when you're rear ended.

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Michael Cerkowski - 03 May 2006 19:39 GMT

> > It's not that easy when your back is threatening to go out and you
> > have life-threatening health problems. The Haynes manual says that the
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> Mike F.
> Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont.

Cool, thanks! I vaguely remembered something like that, but didn't
know it was that simple.

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