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snpboy - 07 May 2006 02:21 GMT
Hi , i recently purchased a 940 turbo wagon and today the service light
started to go on after we stopped at the home depot and then a mile or two
down the road it went off. i need to take it in for a oil change real soon,
could this be the problem? the car is a 93 and i am not sure i want to give
several hundred to find out why the service light is on.thanks

Kasoma Duplantis
Michael Pardee - 07 May 2006 02:28 GMT
> Hi , i recently purchased a 940 turbo wagon and today the service light
> started to go on after we stopped at the home depot and then a mile or two
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>
> Kasoma Duplantis

Just to be sure, this is the "service" light and not the "check engine"
light? If so, it is just a reminder. It doesn't even know as much as you do
about the condition of your car, it's just more focused on it :-)

Mike
Aawara Chowdhury - 07 May 2006 03:04 GMT
> Hi , i recently purchased a 940 turbo wagon and today the service light
> started to go on after we stopped at the home depot and then a mile or two
> down the road it went off. i need to take it in for a oil change real soon,
> could this be the problem? the car is a 93 and i am not sure i want to give
> several hundred to find out why the service light is on.thanks

If it is the service light, and not the check engine, then it is just
a service reminder.  Comes on every 5000 miles in your model.

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mdrawson - 07 May 2006 14:12 GMT
The service light on that car is simply a reminder that it's due for an oil
change, and is set to come on whenever you start the car, and stay on for 2
minutes.

The 5000 mile setting is from the last time the light was reset, which
should be whenever the oil is changed; however, most mechanics simply don't
bother or don't remember to set it.  After an oil change, I always reset it
myself just to be sure.  To reset it yourself, remove the rubber plug to the
left of center of the speedometer display, and poke a pen or something into
the opening to punch the button in the hole.

> Hi , i recently purchased a 940 turbo wagon and today the service light
> started to go on after we stopped at the home depot and then a mile or two
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Kasoma Duplantis
Robert - 07 May 2006 21:57 GMT
Does anyone know how to get the service light off on a 1998 V70XC? It
doesn't have one of those plugs...my mechanic told me you need a OBDII
controller that only the dealers have, and I was wondering if there was
any way around buying one.
Peter K L Milnes - 07 May 2006 23:59 GMT
Check on the Brickboard FAQs.

All the best, Peter.

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Volvo Owners Club (UK).

> Does anyone know how to get the service light off on a 1998 V70XC? It
> doesn't have one of those plugs...my mechanic told me you need a OBDII
> controller that only the dealers have, and I was wondering if there was
> any way around buying one.
Mike F - 08 May 2006 15:17 GMT
> Does anyone know how to get the service light off on a 1998 V70XC? It
> doesn't have one of those plugs...my mechanic told me you need a OBDII
> controller that only the dealers have, and I was wondering if there was
> any way around buying one.

You do need an electronic tool that goes in through the OBD-II port, but
dealers are not the only ones with them.  There are several aftermarket
ones available.

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Steve - 08 May 2006 15:46 GMT
> > Does anyone know how to get the service light off on a 1998 V70XC? It
> > doesn't have one of those plugs...my mechanic told me you need a OBDII
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> dealers are not the only ones with them.  There are several aftermarket
> ones available.

I think Autozone (a mass market parts place in the US) will scan the codes
for you for free, perhaps they will also turn the light off for a picture of
a historical figure like Andy Hamilton, say, or if you live in a classy area
they might want to see just what Andy Jackson looks like.
Mike F - 09 May 2006 13:22 GMT
> I think Autozone (a mass market parts place in the US) will scan the codes
> for you for free, perhaps they will also turn the light off for a picture of
> a historical figure like Andy Hamilton, say, or if you live in a classy area
> they might want to see just what Andy Jackson looks like.

Generic OBD-II readers will not turn off the service light.  It's done
through the OBD-II port, but the tool needs specific programming to turn
the light off.

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Steve - 09 May 2006 14:52 GMT
> > I think Autozone (a mass market parts place in the US) will scan the codes
> > for you for free, perhaps they will also turn the light off for a picture of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> through the OBD-II port, but the tool needs specific programming to turn
> the light off.

I thought the whole idea of OBD-II was so the cost of equipment was limited
by standardization, allowing independent shops to repair modern cars without
requiring the purchase of expensive equipment for every brand...No?
Robert - 09 May 2006 21:04 GMT
True, and independant shops can still scan the codes, diagnose the
problem, and fix the problem; but dealers in their attempt to gain back
a handle on the service industry have put in other things...like the
annoying service lights...that can't be turned off with normal readers.
User - 10 May 2006 04:52 GMT
> I thought the whole idea of OBD-II was so the cost of equipment was limited
> by standardization, allowing independent shops to repair modern cars without
> requiring the purchase of expensive equipment for every brand...No?

No. Although the OBDII standard establishes fault code retrieval over
the various regional protocols it does not mandate access to proprietary
data stored in all the various accessible systems. OBDII is restricted
in that only codes in the standard table for powertrain management are
accessible and can be reset or cleared. There are six modes or levels of
access available in the standard that include monitoring and activation
of individual components via the DLC (data link connector) but only a
handful of scan tools have this capabilty mainly because of cost. The
run of the mill scan tool for diagnostic work on domestic cars and a
smattering of forign cars will run in the neighborhood of $10,000. That
is with software that probably will not be valid for much other than
code reading on cars built after 2002 or so. Software upgrades run on
average $3000-$5000 a year. For Volvo VIDA you can buy a three day pass
to access for one car for about $40.00, however, to download any info
you need a VCT2000 (Volvo special toll $1500-3000 depending on new or
used; a cable for connecting the VCT to the car another $1500) you must
be using a laptop with a 9 pin serial port, running Windows XPPro SP2 or
the VIDA software will not install. Now you can access, update, and
reflash any system on the car. And this is not unique to Volvo. SAAB has
their system, BMW theirs, Mercedes theirs, Land Rover theirs,
VW/SEAT/Audi theirs and so on, you get the picture. So yeah, the cost is
limited and even affordable if you happen to be doing around $3,000,000
a year in parts and labor. Otherwise, I would say it's somewhat
expensive or more likely prohibitive for most small independent shops.

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Steve - 10 May 2006 17:58 GMT
> > I thought the whole idea of OBD-II was so the cost of equipment was limited
> > by standardization, allowing independent shops to repair modern cars without
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> a year in parts and labor. Otherwise, I would say it's somewhat
> expensive or more likely prohibitive for most small independent shops.

So something like this will not work?
http://www.toolsource.com/ost/product.asp?sourceid=googleobd2&dept%5Fid=500&pf%5
Fid=94840&mscssid=5VT8RH36807Q9J6A13530N9JHSJP3BXB

Aawara Chowdhury - 11 May 2006 01:26 GMT
> So something like this will not work?
> http://www.toolsource.com/ost/product.asp?sourceid=googleobd2&dept%5Fid=500&pf%5
Fid=94840&mscssid=5VT8RH36807Q9J6A13530N9JHSJP3BXB

No.  But there are other cheap tools made specifically to reset the
service light.  For example, here is one that works for the 850.

<http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/mmp/volvo~850~service_reset_tool~parts.html>

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