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Car Forum / Volvo Cars / July 2006

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V70 2.5T Tires

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hjsjms@cs.com - 10 May 2006 18:13 GMT
Finally, after 45,000 miles I got to replace the Pirelli P6 tires on my
2004 Volvo V70 2.5T.  There was probably 15,000 miles left, but a
sidewall bubble forced the issue.  Those tires were harsh riding and
noisy from the day I got the car in 2004 and regular balancing and
rotation did nothing to improve things.  In fact they got worse as time
went on.  I'm glad to say good riddance.

The replacement tire, a Yokohama AS430 is a complete contrast.  They
are smooth riding, quiet, stable and offer just as much directional and
stopping control.

Why Volvo (and Ford) chose the Pirelli P6 for so many cars is beyond me.
Jabber - 10 May 2006 18:19 GMT
My 1999 S70 came with Michelin MXV4s on it. Amazing tire. Too bad they
are so expensive... I will be replacing them with Bridgestone Turanza
LSHs soon. Any feedback is appreciated!

Jordan.
Joerg Lorenz - 10 May 2006 20:19 GMT
Jabber schrieb:
> My 1999 S70 came with Michelin MXV4s on it. Amazing tire. Too bad they
> are so expensive... I will be replacing them with Bridgestone Turanza
> LSHs soon. Any feedback is appreciated!

I drive only Michelins after mediocre experiences with a couple of other
brands. The Michelins are much more expensive in Europe  than other
makes as well but if you calculate correctly, you will soon find out
that you pay less per mile.

To give you a typical example: My wife's Renault Megane Scenic (1.6 tons
and 140 hp) came with Continental 205/55-17W. Had to be changed after
less than 30'000 km (19'000 miles).

On my Volvo V70 T5 (1.7 tons and 260 hp) the originally installed
Michelins (MXM; 225/45-17W) were good for another 20'000 km after I sold
the car with 43'000 km. And be sure I drive much faster than my wife. ;-)

> Jordan.

Joerg

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Steve - 10 May 2006 22:22 GMT
> Jabber schrieb:
> > My 1999 S70 came with Michelin MXV4s on it. Amazing tire. Too bad they
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> >
> Joerg

Which Contis?  I would think that in absolute apples to apples terms
Michelins are better then Contis, but not by much.  I also think that in the
US at least the Michelin name is much too expensive but no argument that
they are fine tires.  Total cost per mile?  Well I am not sure that the
Michelins are still that much better, and we get Korean tires in the US now
that do great for around 50 bucks a tire.

One must also look at generation of tire technology - Pirelli is up to and
perhaps now past the p600, the p6 is long gone.

In the US 50 or 60,000 Miles is not unusual and the best Michelins easily go
80,000 miles.  (driving like a volvo owner not like a civic si owner!)
Bruce Bowman - 12 May 2006 21:44 GMT
I just finished replacing my Pirelli tires on my '02 V70 T-5 -
replacement Pirelli P6's were more than $300 CAN, so I replaced them
with Michelin Pilot Exaltos - about $235/tire
- I bought the set at Costco - nice benefits there - free tire rotation
(so I can change my winter-to-summer tires for free 2x per year), & they
also include a pro-rated lifetime road hazard warrantee on the tires.

Bruce

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Steve - 10 May 2006 22:18 GMT
> My 1999 S70 came with Michelin MXV4s on it. Amazing tire. Too bad they
> are so expensive... I will be replacing them with Bridgestone Turanza
> LSHs soon. Any feedback is appreciated!
>
> Jordan.

Nothing but good things to say about Bridgestone here - I have only bought
their expensive Potenzias however....
hjsjms@cs.com - 11 May 2006 01:15 GMT
> My 1999 S70 came with Michelin MXV4s on it. Amazing tire. Too bad they
> are so expensive... I will be replacing them with Bridgestone Turanza
> LSHs soon. Any feedback is appreciated!
>
> Jordan.

Also take a look at the Yokohama Avid and Yokohama AS430 tires.  Both
are reasonably priced and get many very positive comments.
Steve - 10 May 2006 22:17 GMT
> Finally, after 45,000 miles I got to replace the Pirelli P6 tires on my
> 2004 Volvo V70 2.5T.  There was probably 15,000 miles left, but a
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> Why Volvo (and Ford) chose the Pirelli P6 for so many cars is beyond me.

Because Pirelli bought in with a very low price to Ford hoping for
replacement business down the road perhaps?
Joerg Lorenz - 11 May 2006 09:54 GMT
Not really. Since the early days of the 850 T5 Volvo is using Pirelli
P6-tyres on turbos at least in Europe.
On my 850 T5 (95) and my former V70 T5 (01) I requested a change to
Michelin. My dealer
did that in both cases without any additional cost (I bought the cars
new).
Joerg Lorenz - 11 May 2006 09:54 GMT
Not really. Since the early days of the 850 T5 Volvo is using Pirelli
P6-tyres on turbos at least in Europe.
On my 850 T5 (95) and my former V70 T5 (01) I requested a change to
Michelin. My dealer
did that in both cases without any additional cost (I bought the cars
new).
mark@ems-fife.co.uk - 10 May 2006 23:09 GMT
IIRC many years ago I ran a Rover SD1 on P6`s and they were crap and
the Michilins recommended were not much better.Fitted Bridgestones and
found them quieter better grip and longer lived.
regards,Mark.
Administrator - 17 Jul 2006 12:23 GMT
Use Michelin Pilot Sport  - Love them !!

Hello hjsjms@cs.com,

> Finally, after 45,000 miles I got to replace the Pirelli P6 tires on
> my 2004 Volvo V70 2.5T.  There was probably 15,000 miles left, but a
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> Why Volvo (and Ford) chose the Pirelli P6 for so many cars is beyond
> me.
Bruce bowman - 18 Jul 2006 21:21 GMT
> Use Michelin Pilot Sport  - Love them !!
>
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>> Why Volvo (and Ford) chose the Pirelli P6 for so many cars is beyond
>> me.

I replaced my Pirelli P6 Zeros with Michelin Pilot Exaltos - don't see
any difference from the Pirelli tires.. and about $80/tire cheaper (my
V70 is a T-5).
 
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